• Re: The iPhone has won over casual users.

    From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Aug 31 20:08:08 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    <https://www.zdnet.com/article/two-phone-makers-dominate-this-years-customer-satisfaction-index-and-im-not-surprised/>

    I think they used to call it fragmentation with Android. iPhones are homogenized to the extent my iPad is just an extension of my iPhone.

    The iPhone pulled me away from Linux on desktops (and using my MacMini).
    It¢s so much more convenient than firing up and being tethered to a desktop or laptop. I can post to usenet from something that fits in my hand. I only use desktops at work anymore.

    The problem of using customer satisfaction as a metric is that the
    customer's self bias has already greatly affected the measurement.

    Customer satisfaction for an iPhone is based on low-functionality metrics.

    For example, if you want to be able to do things that iOS can't do, such as choose alternative app store skins and filters, change the app launcher,
    put icons anywhere including in multiple places, change the grid pattern, change the default sms/mms messenger, graphically debug wi-fi signal
    strength, add system-wide ad-blocking firewalls, spoof gps location, automatically record calls, graphically download & rip video sans ads, use privacy based web browsers such as the Guardian TOR browser or Ungoogled Chromium, extract the installer off the phone and use the results on any
    phone (not just phones which are set up for any given account), downloads
    and install apps and use mail/calendars/reminders/etc without having to log into any account whatsoever, and so on (all of which Android easily does).

    Given the iPhone can't do any of those important things, it's just a toy.

    For a person who wants to use a phone as something other than just a toy,
    they will never be satisfied with the lack of functionality that is iOS.

    However... if all the person wants to do is have green and blue bubbles,
    and to show off that they bought the RED or YELLOW iPhone, then the fact
    iOS is a toy operating system won't adversely affect satisfaction levels.

    Hell, we've seen time and again the iKooks claim they're satisfied with the iPhone simply because Apple makes something like 50% profit on them.

    They think Apple's profits equate to their satisfaction, when, in fact, the more technically illiterate a customer is - the more profits Apple makes.

    Which brings me to the final point of technical literacy metrics.
    a. Apple customers are virtually almost all technically illiterate,
    (The "it just works" promise is _why_ they're Apple customers!)

    b. A good portion of Android customers are technically knowledgeable.
    (That's _why_ they're Android customers after all!)

    Certainly none of the iKooks on this newsgroup have any technical literacy (e.g., nospam doesn't know the difference between a megabit & a decibel!) (e,.g., Alan Baker doesn't know the nntp headers can easily be spoofed!)
    (e.g., Jolly Roger is completely ignorant of Apple's full-hotfix policy!) (e.g., Alan Browne is even more ignorant of the walled garden's existence!) etc.

    Apple customers ===> technically illiterate

    If they were technically literate, they wouldn't put up with the thousands
    upon thousands (upon thousands) of things iOS can't do that Android does.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Aug 31 17:11:46 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-08-31 17:08, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    <https://www.zdnet.com/article/two-phone-makers-dominate-this-years-customer-satisfaction-index-and-im-not-surprised/>

    I think they used to call it fragmentation with Android. iPhones are
    homogenized to the extent my iPad is just an extension of my iPhone.

    The iPhone pulled me away from Linux on desktops (and using my MacMini).
    It┬ so much more convenient than firing up and being tethered to a desktop >> or laptop. I can post to usenet from something that fits in my hand. I only >> use desktops at work anymore.

    The problem of using customer satisfaction as a metric is that the
    customer's self bias has already greatly affected the measurement.

    Customer satisfaction for an iPhone is based on low-functionality metrics.

    For example, if you want to be able to do things that iOS can't do, such as choose alternative app store skins and filters, change the app launcher,
    put icons anywhere including in multiple places, change the grid pattern, change the default sms/mms messenger, graphically debug wi-fi signal strength, add system-wide ad-blocking firewalls, spoof gps location, automatically record calls, graphically download & rip video sans ads, use privacy based web browsers such as the Guardian TOR browser or Ungoogled Chromium, extract the installer off the phone and use the results on any phone (not just phones which are set up for any given account), downloads
    and install apps and use mail/calendars/reminders/etc without having to log into any account whatsoever, and so on (all of which Android easily does).

    Given the iPhone can't do any of those important things, it's just a toy.

    For a person who wants to use a phone as something other than just a toy, they will never be satisfied with the lack of functionality that is iOS.

    However... if all the person wants to do is have green and blue bubbles,
    and to show off that they bought the RED or YELLOW iPhone, then the fact
    iOS is a toy operating system won't adversely affect satisfaction levels.

    Hell, we've seen time and again the iKooks claim they're satisfied with the iPhone simply because Apple makes something like 50% profit on them.

    They think Apple's profits equate to their satisfaction, when, in fact, the more technically illiterate a customer is - the more profits Apple makes.

    Which brings me to the final point of technical literacy metrics.
    a. Apple customers are virtually almost all technically illiterate,
    (The "it just works" promise is _why_ they're Apple customers!)

    b. A good portion of Android customers are technically knowledgeable.
    (That's _why_ they're Android customers after all!)

    Certainly none of the iKooks on this newsgroup have any technical literacy (e.g., nospam doesn't know the difference between a megabit & a decibel!) (e,.g., Alan Baker doesn't know the nntp headers can easily be spoofed!) (e.g., Jolly Roger is completely ignorant of Apple's full-hotfix policy!) (e.g., Alan Browne is even more ignorant of the walled garden's existence!) etc.

    Apple customers ===> technically illiterate

    If they were technically literate, they wouldn't put up with the thousands upon thousands (upon thousands) of things iOS can't do that Android does.

    I love your casual arrogance and belief that no one but yourself can
    make rational choices about what they need...

    ...Arlen.
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  • From *Hemidactylus*@ecphoric@allspamis.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 00:34:41 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
    On 2023-08-31 17:08, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    <https://www.zdnet.com/article/two-phone-makers-dominate-this-years-customer-satisfaction-index-and-im-not-surprised/>

    I think they used to call it fragmentation with Android. iPhones are
    homogenized to the extent my iPad is just an extension of my iPhone.

    The iPhone pulled me away from Linux on desktops (and using my MacMini). >>> It┬ so much more convenient than firing up and being tethered to a desktop
    or laptop. I can post to usenet from something that fits in my hand. I only >>> use desktops at work anymore.

    The problem of using customer satisfaction as a metric is that the
    customer's self bias has already greatly affected the measurement.

    Customer satisfaction for an iPhone is based on low-functionality metrics. >>
    For example, if you want to be able to do things that iOS can't do, such as >> choose alternative app store skins and filters, change the app launcher,
    put icons anywhere including in multiple places, change the grid pattern,
    change the default sms/mms messenger, graphically debug wi-fi signal
    strength, add system-wide ad-blocking firewalls, spoof gps location,
    automatically record calls, graphically download & rip video sans ads, use >> privacy based web browsers such as the Guardian TOR browser or Ungoogled
    Chromium, extract the installer off the phone and use the results on any
    phone (not just phones which are set up for any given account), downloads
    and install apps and use mail/calendars/reminders/etc without having to log >> into any account whatsoever, and so on (all of which Android easily does). >>
    Given the iPhone can't do any of those important things, it's just a toy.

    For a person who wants to use a phone as something other than just a toy,
    they will never be satisfied with the lack of functionality that is iOS.

    However... if all the person wants to do is have green and blue bubbles,
    and to show off that they bought the RED or YELLOW iPhone, then the fact
    iOS is a toy operating system won't adversely affect satisfaction levels.

    Hell, we've seen time and again the iKooks claim they're satisfied with the >> iPhone simply because Apple makes something like 50% profit on them.

    They think Apple's profits equate to their satisfaction, when, in fact, the >> more technically illiterate a customer is - the more profits Apple makes.

    Which brings me to the final point of technical literacy metrics.
    a. Apple customers are virtually almost all technically illiterate,
    (The "it just works" promise is _why_ they're Apple customers!)

    b. A good portion of Android customers are technically knowledgeable.
    (That's _why_ they're Android customers after all!)

    Certainly none of the iKooks on this newsgroup have any technical literacy >> (e.g., nospam doesn't know the difference between a megabit & a decibel!)
    (e,.g., Alan Baker doesn't know the nntp headers can easily be spoofed!)
    (e.g., Jolly Roger is completely ignorant of Apple's full-hotfix policy!)
    (e.g., Alan Browne is even more ignorant of the walled garden's existence!) >> etc.

    Apple customers ===> technically illiterate

    If they were technically literate, they wouldn't put up with the thousands >> upon thousands (upon thousands) of things iOS can't do that Android does.

    I love your casual arrogance and belief that no one but yourself can
    make rational choices about what they need...

    ...Arlen.

    Yeah he’s a tiresome troll not worth reading regardless of the numerous guises he uses and shifts between to circumvent filtering measures of
    people who quickly recognize him by his signature pathetic tropes.
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  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Aug 31 20:56:00 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    Yeah he¢s a tiresome troll not worth reading regardless of the numerous guises he uses and shifts between to circumvent filtering measures of
    people who quickly recognize him by his signature pathetic tropes.

    *The iPhone customer is satisfied because they're technically ignorant*

    Every time you uneducated iKooks gloat that you think you've found me, I
    have to laugh at how incredibly stupid you are as if it takes you more than
    a second to figure out my posts, you're a moron - which is what you are.

    You ignorant iKooks literally gloat that you figured out that 1 + 1 = 2

    It's especially obvious how stupid you iKooks are when you claim everyone
    who posts here is me - which I think is hilarious since it proves you are stupid.

    Meanwhile, my point about customer satisfaction is valid that the Apple consumer is ignorant - otherwise the "it just works" ads wouldn't work.

    The Apple customer is so technically incompetent, most don't even realize
    that the iPhone can't do thousands (upon thousands!) of things Android (and every other operating system) easily does.

    Hence they go together...

    a. The iPhone customer is almost completely technically ignorant,
    b. Hence, they're quite happy with the iPhone (doing what they're told),
    c. Even as the iOS operating system is clearly a dysfunctional toy OS.

    iPhone customer ===> technically ignorant

    An example is nospam still doesn't know the difference between a decibel
    and a megabit, Alan Baker doesn't know you can spoof headers, Jolly Roger
    still thinks iOS 15 is fully supported & Alan Browne has never heard of the walled garden.

    iKook ===> technically ignorant
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  • From *Hemidactylus*@ecphoric@allspamis.invalid to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 01:58:23 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    [snipped and ignored]

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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Thu Aug 31 19:23:34 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-08-31 17:56, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    Yeah he┬ a tiresome troll not worth reading regardless of the numerous
    guises he uses and shifts between to circumvent filtering measures of
    people who quickly recognize him by his signature pathetic tropes.

    *The iPhone customer is satisfied because they're technically ignorant*

    Every time you uneducated iKooks gloat that you think you've found me, I
    have to laugh at how incredibly stupid you are as if it takes you more than
    a second to figure out my posts, you're a moron - which is what you are.

    You ignorant iKooks literally gloat that you figured out that 1 + 1 = 2

    It's especially obvious how stupid you iKooks are when you claim everyone
    who posts here is me - which I think is hilarious since it proves you are stupid.

    Meanwhile, my point about customer satisfaction is valid that the Apple consumer is ignorant - otherwise the "it just works" ads wouldn't work.

    The Apple customer is so technically incompetent, most don't even realize that the iPhone can't do thousands (upon thousands!) of things Android (and every other operating system) easily does.

    Hence they go together...

    a. The iPhone customer is almost completely technically ignorant,
    b. Hence, they're quite happy with the iPhone (doing what they're told),
    c. Even as the iOS operating system is clearly a dysfunctional toy OS.

    iPhone customer ===> technically ignorant

    An example is nospam still doesn't know the difference between a decibel
    and a megabit, Alan Baker doesn't know you can spoof headers, Jolly Roger still thinks iOS 15 is fully supported & Alan Browne has never heard of the walled garden.

    iKook ===> technically ignorant

    Or:

    Arlen ===> tedious kook who doesn't understand what a circular argument is.

    :-)
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  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system on Fri Sep 1 00:24:38 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    [snipped and ignored]

    *iOS ===> designed for a technically incompetent consumer base*

    Otherwise, Apple wouldn't have promoted the "it just works" campaign.

    Meanwhile, iOS does NOT work for thousands (upon thousands!) of very useful functional things that _every_ other consumer OS easily does.
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.system on Thu Aug 31 21:39:10 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-08-31 21:24, Wally J wrote:
    *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@allspamis.invalid> wrote

    [snipped and ignored]

    *iOS ===> designed for a technically incompetent consumer base*

    Otherwise, Apple wouldn't have promoted the "it just works" campaign.

    Meanwhile, iOS does NOT work for thousands (upon thousands!) of very useful functional things that _every_ other consumer OS easily does.

    But which so few consumers care about that they buy iPhones anyway!

    :-)
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  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 17:27:02 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and children.

    *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be.

    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide firewall.
    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled Chromium.

    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube videos without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format.

    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone calls.
    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor browser has.

    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy with it.

    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is just fine.

    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory too.
    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired headphones.

    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide to you.

    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that child's toy.

    If you never want to install an older app version that is no longer in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works for you.

    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy is fine.

    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of rather useful things that _every other operating system easily does - except for iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you need...
    *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 08:58:46 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and children.

    *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube videos without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID into every IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is just fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no longer in the app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy is fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of rather useful things that _every other operating system easily does - except for iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you need...
    *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From News@News@Group.Name to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 12:09:39 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and
    children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be satisfied* >>
    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled
    Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID into
    every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of
    privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is just
    fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired
    headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide to
    you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that child's
    toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no longer in
    the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works for
    you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy is fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of rather
    useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except for iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone you
    own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 09:10:46 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and
    children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be
    satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi
    debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled
    Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube videos >>> without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy with
    it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID into
    every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of
    privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is just
    fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired
    headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide to
    you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that
    child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no longer
    in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works
    for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy is
    fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of rather
    useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except for iOS_, >>> then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone
    you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?
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  • From News@News@Group.Name to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 13:16:22 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and
    children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be
    satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi
    debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide
    firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled
    Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube
    videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone
    calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor browser
    has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy
    with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID
    into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of
    privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is just
    fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory too. >>>
    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired
    headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you don't >>>> care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide
    to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that
    child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no longer
    in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works
    for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto any >>>> other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy is
    fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of rather
    useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except for
    iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone
    you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you need... >>>>   *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?


    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 10:21:34 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 10:16, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and
    children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be
    satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi
    debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide
    firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled
    Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube
    videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format. >>>>
    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone
    calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor browser >>>>> has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when >>>>> you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy
    with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID
    into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of
    privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through >>>>> Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is
    just fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory
    too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired
    headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you
    don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide
    to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that
    child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no longer >>>>> in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works
    for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto any >>>>> other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy is >>>>> fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of rather >>>>> useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except for
    iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone
    you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you
    need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?


    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'

    You failed to answer my question...

    ...but failure is the default option for you, isn't it?
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From News@News@Group.Name to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 13:27:53 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 9/1/2023 1:21 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:16, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and
    children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be
    satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi
    debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be. >>>>>
    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide
    firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled
    Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube >>>>>> videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired format. >>>>>
    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone >>>>>> calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor
    browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone when >>>>>> you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy
    with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID
    into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack of >>>>>> privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go through >>>>>> Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is
    just fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable memory >>>>>> too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired
    headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you >>>>>> don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!) provide >>>>>> to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that
    child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no
    longer in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone works >>>>>> for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) onto >>>>>> any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy
    is fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of
    rather useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except for >>>>>> iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll iPhone >>>>>> you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you
    need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?


    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'

    You failed to answer my question...

    ...but failure is the default option for you, isn't it?

    My answer was accurate. I don't need to set the timing on my car.

    And your obstinacy is the default option for you, isn't it?

    Along with your <smiley face>
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 10:40:29 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 10:27, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 1:21 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:16, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and >>>>>>> children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be >>>>>>> satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi
    debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to be. >>>>>>
    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide
    firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled >>>>>>> Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download YouTube >>>>>>> videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired
    format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your phone >>>>>>> calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor
    browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone >>>>>>> when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy >>>>>>> with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID >>>>>>> into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack >>>>>>> of privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go
    through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is >>>>>>> just fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable
    memory too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired
    headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, you >>>>>>> don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!)
    provide to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that
    child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no
    longer in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone
    works for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone)
    onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy >>>>>>> is fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of
    rather useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except
    for iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll
    iPhone you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you >>>>>>> need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS* >>>>>>
    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?


    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'

    You failed to answer my question...

    ...but failure is the default option for you, isn't it?

    My answer was accurate. I don't need to set the timing on my car.

    But by your own argument against the iPhone, the fact that you can't is
    a drawback.

    Your a "low-information consumer" when it comes to cars.

    :-)
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From News@News@Group.Name to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 13:47:02 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 9/1/2023 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:27, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 1:21 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:16, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... and >>>>>>>> children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be >>>>>>>> satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi >>>>>>>> debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them to >>>>>>>> be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide >>>>>>>> firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like Ungoogled >>>>>>>> Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download
    YouTube videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired >>>>>>>> format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your
    phone calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor
    browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an iPhone >>>>>>>> when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be happy >>>>>>>> with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking ID >>>>>>>> into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack >>>>>>>> of privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go >>>>>>>> through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is >>>>>>>> just fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable
    memory too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired >>>>>>>> headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, >>>>>>>> you don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!)
    provide to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that >>>>>>>> child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no
    longer in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone
    works for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) >>>>>>>> onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's toy >>>>>>>> is fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of
    rather useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except >>>>>>>> for iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll
    iPhone you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you >>>>>>>> need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS* >>>>>>>
    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?


    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'

    You failed to answer my question...

    ...but failure is the default option for you, isn't it?

    My answer was accurate. I don't need to set the timing on my car.

    But by your own argument against the iPhone, the fact that you can't is
    a drawback.

    Your a "low-information consumer" when it comes to cars.

    :-)


    There you go. 100% on form.

    Feel free to fuck yourself in your Miata, asshole.

    It's what you do well. Every trolling day.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 11:05:27 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 10:47, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:27, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 1:21 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:16, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:
    Chris Schram <chrispam1@me.com> wrote

    I'm quite satisfied with my iPhone.

    There are two kinds of people on this newsgroup... adults... >>>>>>>>> and children.

      *If all you do is use the iPhone as a toy... you _should_ be >>>>>>>>> satisfied*

    You'll only be dissatisfied when you try to do graphical wi-fi >>>>>>>>> debugging.
    Or when you try to orient the app icons the way you want them >>>>>>>>> to be.

    I do technical support for businesses and individuals.

    Do you know how many times I've been asked how to do this?

    Never.


    Or if you want to spoof your GPS location or run a system-wide >>>>>>>>> firewall.

    Never.

    Or if you want to load a more private web browser like
    Ungoogled Chromium.

    Never.


    Or, when you try to use a graphical interface to download
    YouTube videos
    without ads and being able to play and convert to any desired >>>>>>>>> format.

    Never.


    Or if/when you want to or need to automatically record your >>>>>>>>> phone calls.

    Never.

    Or if you want privacy/anonymity that only the Guardian Tor >>>>>>>>> browser has.

    Never.


    If you don't care that there's no chance of privacy on an
    iPhone when
    you're logged into the mothership 24/7/365, then you'll be
    happy with it.

    False.


    If you don't care that Apple inserts a unique-to-you tracking >>>>>>>>> ID into every
    IPA you install, then you'll be happy with that additional lack >>>>>>>>> of privacy.

    Hell, if you don't mind that every message you send has to go >>>>>>>>> through
    Apple's servers, then again, that additional lack of privacy is >>>>>>>>> just fine.

    False.


    You'll be dissatisfied with the iPhone if you want portable >>>>>>>>> memory too.

    Never.

    Or if you want to plug into that (newer) iPhone standard wired >>>>>>>>> headphones.

    Never.


    You'll be happy with the iPhone if, when you search for apps, >>>>>>>>> you don't
    care about the child-like filters that Apple (and Google!)
    provide to you.

    Never.


    If you never want to torrent a file, you'll be happy with that >>>>>>>>> child's toy.

    Never.


    If you never want to install an older app version that is no >>>>>>>>> longer in the
    app store, and which you didn't make a backup of, the iPhone >>>>>>>>> works for you.

    Never.


    If you never want to install any app (that is on your iPhone) >>>>>>>>> onto any
    other phone (without the same AppleID), then the iOS child's >>>>>>>>> toy is fine.

    Never.


    In short, if you don't do the thousands (upon thousands!) of >>>>>>>>> rather useful
    things that _every other operating system easily does - except >>>>>>>>> for iOS_,
    then you'll be perfectly happy playing with the barbie-doll >>>>>>>>> iPhone you own.

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all you >>>>>>>>> need...
      *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though it has a toy OS* >>>>>>>>
    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.


    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?


    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'

    You failed to answer my question...

    ...but failure is the default option for you, isn't it?

    My answer was accurate. I don't need to set the timing on my car.

    But by your own argument against the iPhone, the fact that you can't
    is a drawback.

    Your a "low-information consumer" when it comes to cars.

    :-)


    There you go. 100% on form.

    I merely turned what you said back on you.

    If it's "on form" it's also on point.

    :-)


    Feel free to fuck yourself in your Miata, asshole.

    Oh, look! Another twit who's scared his manhood would be compromised if
    he drove one of the best small sportscars of all time!


    It's what you do well. Every trolling day.

    And yet you just can't resist!

    ;-)
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 19:51:47 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01, News <News@Group.Name> wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 1:40 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:27, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 1:21 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 10:16, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 12:10 PM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 09:09, News wrote:
    On 9/1/2023 11:58 AM, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 08:27, Wally J wrote:

    In summary, the iPhone is a child's toy - but if that's all
    you need... *You'll be happy with the iPhone - even though
    it has a toy OS*

    Consumers want devices that do what they say they will do...

    ...and the Apple iPhone does what it says.

    When low-information consumers set the bar low enough.

    Do you want to be able to set the timing on your car, "News"?

    Static set, dynamic mapped, 'wace dwiber'

    You failed to answer my question...

    ...but failure is the default option for you, isn't it?

    My answer was accurate. I don't need to set the timing on my car.

    LOL... Nobody needs or wants it, you say? Go figure! 🤣

    But by your own argument against the iPhone, the fact that you can't
    is a drawback.

    Your a "low-information consumer" when it comes to cars.

    There you go. 100% on form.

    Feel free to fuck yourself in your Miata, asshole.

    LOL! Apple-hating trolls get *so* emotional when their own statements
    get thrown back in their faces! Little "News" got his filthy panties all twisted when someone showed him he meets the definition of a
    "low-information consumer", and I'm here for it! 🤣

    It's what you do well. Every trolling day.

    Mindless projection is what we've come to expect form people like you.
    Do carry on.
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 18:24:09 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    LOL... Nobody needs or wants it, you say?

    *LOGIC:*
    Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ other operating
    systems _except_ iOS, there must be people who want it and who need it.

    *EXAMPLE:*
    Choosing just one, for you to claim nobody wants the privacy/anonymity of
    the Guardian Tor Browser is the height of iKook hypocrisy, Jolly Roger.

    *FACT:*
    *It's _only iOS_ that can't have the privacy of the Tor Browser Bundle*
    <https://support.torproject.org/tormobile/tormobile-3/>
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Fri Sep 1 16:44:16 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 15:24, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    LOL... Nobody needs or wants it, you say?

    *LOGIC:*
    Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ other operating
    systems _except_ iOS, there must be people who want it and who need it.

    Sorry, but that doesn't follow...

    ...not with operating systems.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 00:17:35 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    LOL... Nobody needs or wants it, you say?

    *LOGIC:* Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ cars,
    there must be people who want it and who need it.

    Except he explicitly stated he does *not* need or want it. 🤣

    You trolls get *so* emotional when your own trolls are shown to apply to
    you. You are huge hypocrite babies. 🤣 Your trolls are unoriginal and
    weak, because *you* are unoriginal and weak minded. Pathetic! 🤣
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 09:28:43 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    *LOGIC:* Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ cars,
    there must be people who want it and who need it.

    Except he explicitly stated he does *not* need or want it.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    Alan Baker has an IQ of no greater than around 40, so the mere observation
    that Alan Baker can't conceive of the need to use iOS for anything other
    than playing barbie in a pretty red toy house is to be expected of him.

    ...However...

    *Every common consumer OS _except_ for iOS, has that privacy/anonymity*

    ...Just not iOS...

    And anonymity is just one of thousands of compellingly useful key functionalities every common consumer operating system (except for iOS)
    already had.

    Assuming you own adult cognitive skills, JR, allow me to ask a question.

    *Why do you think it's only iOS that can't have any anonymity anyway?*
    --
    HINT: Walled garden.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Jolly Roger@jollyroger@pobox.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 01:25:02 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-02, Wally J <walterjones@invalid.nospam> wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    *LOGIC:* Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ cars,
    there must be people who want it and who need it.

    Except he explicitly stated he does *not* need or want it.

    Alan Baker has an IQ of no greater than around 40
    Alan Baker can't conceive of the need to use iOS for anything other
    than playing barbie in a pretty red toy house
    adult cognitive skills

    Bow to Arlen's "wisdom", everyone! 🤡
    --
    E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
    I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

    JR
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  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 10:56:31 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-01 20:28, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

    *LOGIC:* Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ cars,
    there must be people who want it and who need it.

    Except he explicitly stated he does *not* need or want it.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    Alan Baker has an IQ of no greater than around 40, so the mere observation that Alan Baker can't conceive of the need to use iOS for anything other
    than playing barbie in a pretty red toy house is to be expected of him.

    Dude...

    ...you REALLY need to get laid.

    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan Browne@bitbucket@blackhole.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 11:04:30 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-02 10:56, Alan wrote:
    On 2023-09-01 20:28, Wally J wrote:
    Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote

      *LOGIC:* Given every useful functionality I stated is on _all_ cars, >>>>   there must be people who want it and who need it.

    Except he explicitly stated he does *not* need or want it.

    Hi Jolly Roger,

    Alan Baker has an IQ of no greater than around 40, so the mere
    observation
    that Alan Baker can't conceive of the need to use iOS for anything other
    than playing barbie in a pretty red toy house is to be expected of him.

    Dude...

    ...you REALLY need to get laid.

    At least 3 barriers it can't overcome there ...
    --
    “If you torture the data long enough, it will confess to anything."
    -Ronald Coase

    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Wally J@walterjones@invalid.nospam to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 12:46:49 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> wrote

    Find another place where your dick is appreciated

    Adults will notice the iKooks _hate_ facts about Apple products.
    Where the only response from iKooks - is childish as shown above.

    I have two goals on this newsgroup.
    1. Convey the truth about Apple products
    2. Show the iKooks for what they are

    In terms of the first goal of showing iOS for what it is...
    *Every common consumer OS _except_ for iOS, has TOR privacy/anonymity*

    In terms of showing iKooks for what they are, see JR's response to this.
    *Why do you think it's only iOS that can't have any anonymity anyway?*

    Notice the iKooks' response to the facts about Apple that they hate!
    a. Their response shows not only that iKooks are wholly uneducated
    b. Hence shockingly ignorant of almost every fact about Apple products
    c. Worse, their responses show iKooks own the stunted intellect of a child

    Remove these three prolific uneducated child-like iKooks
    1. Jolly Roger ===> Responds to all facts about Apple with insults
    2. nospam ===> Deflects all facts about Apple to whataboutism tactics
    3. Alan Browne ===> Completely ignorant of even the walled garden

    Remove those three ignorant iKooks from this newsgroup and the
    conversations would elevate to the level of the adult OS newsgroups.

    In this case, it's clear Andreas Rutishauser hates the fact that only on
    iOS is the privacy/anonymity of the Tor Browser Bundle impossible.

    So, how does the iKook respond when he hates all facts about Apple?
    With insults.

    Why?
    Because when your belief system is entirely imaginary, facts are dangerous.

    Worse, the bearer of facts about Apple products is dangerous.
    So be it.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Alan@nuh-uh@nope.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 2 15:21:41 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2023-09-02 12:46, Wally J wrote:
    Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> wrote

    Find another place where your dick is appreciated

    Adults will notice the iKooks _hate_ facts about Apple products.
    Where the only response from iKooks - is childish as shown above.

    I have two goals on this newsgroup.
    1. Convey the truth about Apple products
    2. Show the iKooks for what they are

    In terms of the first goal of showing iOS for what it is...
    *Every common consumer OS _except_ for iOS, has TOR privacy/anonymity*

    "Private Wi-Fi Address [on]

    Using a private address helps reduce tracking of your iPhone across
    different Wi-Fi networks.

    Limit IP Address Tracking [on]

    Limit IP address tracking by hiding your IP address from known trackers
    in Mail and Safari"

    <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iphb01fc3c85/ios>

    <https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/iphone/iph499d287c2/16.0/ios/16.0>
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From Frankie@frankie@nospam.usa to misc.phone.mobile.iphone,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sun Sep 3 06:00:52 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On 2/9/2023, Alan wrote:

    "Private Wi-Fi Address [on]

    Android not only randomizes the MAC address per Wi-Fi hotspot, but each and every connection can be automatically set to use a randomized MAC address.
    --- Synchronet 3.20a-Linux NewsLink 1.114
  • From WolfFan@akwolffan@zoho.com to misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.sys.mac.apps, comp.sys.mac.advocacy on Sat Sep 9 09:41:26 2023
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.mac.apps

    On Sep 1, 2023, Wally J wrote
    (in article <uctvhn$6kbr$1@paganini.bofh.team>):

    Alan Baker has an IQ of no greater than around 40,

    It must really suck that he kicks your ass over and over and over again despite having such a low IQ.

    Of course, it could just be that your estimate if his IQ is merely extremely erroneous...

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