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On 26 Aug 2025 15:33:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

Is there even docker for a Mac?

I recall news of Apple coming up with their own answer to Microsoft’s
WSL2.
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 02:35 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 26 Aug 2025 15:33:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

Is there even docker for a Mac?

I recall news of Apple coming up with their own answer to Microsoft’s WSL2.

I thought they were running on a UNIX kernel.
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On Aug 29, 2025 at 3:20:03 PM EDT, "candycanearter07" <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 02:35 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 26 Aug 2025 15:33:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

Is there even docker for a Mac?

I recall news of Apple coming up with their own answer to Microsoft’s
WSL2.

I thought they were running on a UNIX kernel.

Yes, Macs run Unix. But Apple has a new, faster way of running Linux VMs, mainly for development purposes. It has been possible for years using Docker.
Now they have "containers".

See:

<https://www.macforce.com/blog/apples-linux-container-revolution-a-complete-guide-for-mac-users>

for details.
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:44:25 +0000, Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote in <wU2dnf2BGarEpi_1nZ2dnZfqn_udnZ2d@supernews.com>:

On Aug 29, 2025 at 3:20:03 PM EDT, "candycanearter07" <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 02:35 this Wednesday
(GMT):

On 26 Aug 2025 15:33:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

Is there even docker for a Mac?

I recall news of Apple coming up with their own answer to Microsoft’s
WSL2.

I thought they were running on a UNIX kernel.

Yes, Macs run Unix. But Apple has a new, faster way of running Linux
VMs,
mainly for development purposes. It has been possible for years using Docker.
Now they have "containers".

See:

<https://www.macforce.com/blog/apples-linux-container-revolution-a-

complete-guide-for-mac-users>

for details.

Another great idea from the World of Linux.

BTW, containers aren't just for development: I recently installed
a docker instance that handles document imaging. Ran some tests yesterday, both from this machine, and from Mrs. vallor's Mac Studio. Runs great.

Next, I need to move the ScanSnap to the Mac, so she can start
scanning in the "keep" pile. (She's been organizing paperwork
into "keep" and "shred".)

Back when our business offered "vps" service for customers, they were
all containers. But nowadays, one can get a Digital Ocean "droplet"
for as little as $6/mo -- and that's not a container, that's virtualized
Linux.
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 19:20:03 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote:

Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote at 02:35 this Wednesday
(GMT):

On 26 Aug 2025 15:33:21 GMT, vallor wrote:

Is there even docker for a Mac?

I recall news of Apple coming up with their own answer to
Microsoft’s WSL2.

I thought they were running on a UNIX kernel.

Not AT&T Unix, I think it’s based on an old version of BSD with a
bastardized Mach microkernel or something strange like that.

Did you know that at one time Apple tried to sell servers? That it had
a version of macOS (OS X at that time) called “OS X Server”, and
special “XServe” hardware to run it on?

It was quite amusing to see some benchmarks in a review, comparing
Apple’s own server OS to Linux, showing that Linux could achieve
better performance than Apple could manage -- on Apple’s own hardware!
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On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 23:44:25 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

Yes, Macs run Unix. But Apple has a new, faster way of running Linux
VMs, mainly for development purposes. It has been possible for years
using Docker. Now they have "containers".

They call it “containers”, but that would mean running multiple
userlands under a common kernel, which macOS can’t do.
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 04:04:46 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

MacOS (Unix) has both docker and containers.

Docker is a kind of container.

And no, MacOS doesn’t have that. It has to use Linux to get that.

Windows 11 Pro (or Home same price) for $9.50 per Mac is fine with me. Finally, a realistic price for Windows 11.

Is that all Microsoft can afford to pay you?
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On Sep 1, 2025 at 1:51:05 AM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 04:04:46 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

MacOS (Unix) has both docker and containers.

Docker is a kind of container.

And no, MacOS doesn’t have that. It has to use Linux to get that.

Yes, MacOS has that. Apple created their own containers using their own Linux kernel. Docker can still be used, but is no longer needed.

Windows 11 Pro (or Home same price) for $9.50 per Mac is fine with me.
Finally, a realistic price for Windows 11.

Is that all Microsoft can afford to pay you?

Wow. That was almost clever.
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On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 16:41:15 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

On Sep 1, 2025 at 1:51:05 AM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

On Mon, 01 Sep 2025 04:04:46 +0000, Tyrone wrote:

MacOS (Unix) has both docker and containers.

Docker is a kind of container.

And no, MacOS doesn’t have that. It has to use Linux to get that.

Yes, MacOS has that. Apple created their own containers using their own
Linux kernel.

Like I said, it has to use Linux to get that.

Can you run MacOS containers under MacOS? No.

No Linux, no containers.

Windows 11 Pro (or Home same price) for $9.50 per Mac is fine with me.
Finally, a realistic price for Windows 11.

Is that all Microsoft can afford to pay you?

Wow. That was almost clever.

Who would pay money to Microsoft for such an OS?
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