Hello,
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the drive anymore.
Earlier today, I was doing a Time Machine back up fine in 2020 MBP. And then, I tried to do it again. macOS Big Sur got stuck with its animated colorful pinwheel. I tried to abort and eject, but it failed. I pulled its old school USB cable connection to make MBP respond. I rebooted and retried. It never saw the drive even though the HDD's light blinked. I tried it on another (older) MBP's Mojave, and it never saw it but its light blinked only once right after physically connecting. Same with my Linux/Debian and 64-bit W10 PCs. My Debian's dmesg -T showed failures it seems as shown in https://paste2.org/xeHxaxKN.
Also, I can feel the drive vibration after connecting and seeing its white light up either once or blink. When the light is on/blinking, I can feel its vibration if I touch the black enclosure. I'm going to leave the drive physically connected to see if the drive will ever show up.
What do you think? Dead/Broken? Warranty expired last year according to Seagate's web site with the serial number. Time for a new one? If so, then which reliable brand and model to get to replace it for cheap? :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
On 4/5/2023 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
Hello,
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the drive anymore.
Earlier today, I was doing a Time Machine back up fine in 2020 MBP. And then, I tried to do it again. macOS Big Sur got stuck with its animated colorful pinwheel. I tried to abort and eject, but it failed. I pulled its old school USB cable connection to make MBP respond. I rebooted and retried. It never saw the drive even though the HDD's light blinked. I tried it on another (older) MBP's Mojave, and it never saw it but its light blinked only once right after physically connecting. Same with my Linux/Debian and 64-bit W10 PCs. My Debian's dmesg -T showed failures it seems as shown in https://paste2.org/xeHxaxKN.
Also, I can feel the drive vibration after connecting and seeing its white light up either once or blink. When the light is on/blinking, I can feel its vibration if I touch the black enclosure. I'm going to leave the drive physically connected to see if the drive will ever show up.
What do you think? Dead/Broken? Warranty expired last year according to Seagate's web site with the serial number. Time for a new one? If so, then which reliable brand and model to get to replace it for cheap? :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
I just bought a new WD 12 TB external USB for $219 plus sales tax.
https://www.amazon.com/12TB-Desktop-External-Drive-WDBBGB0120HBK-NESN/dp/B07X3RBTQT/
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> wrote:
On 4/5/2023 5:01 PM, Ant wrote:
Hello,
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the drive anymore.
Earlier today, I was doing a Time Machine back up fine in 2020 MBP. And then, I tried to do it again. macOS Big Sur got stuck with its animated colorful pinwheel. I tried to abort and eject, but it failed. I pulled its old school USB cable connection to make MBP respond. I rebooted and retried. It never saw the drive even though the HDD's light blinked. I tried it on another (older) MBP's Mojave, and it never saw it but its light blinked only once right after physically connecting. Same with my Linux/Debian and 64-bit W10 PCs. My Debian's dmesg -T showed failures it seems as shown in https://paste2.org/xeHxaxKN.
Also, I can feel the drive vibration after connecting and seeing its white light up either once or blink. When the light is on/blinking, I can feel its vibration if I touch the black enclosure. I'm going to leave the drive physically connected to see if the drive will ever show up.
What do you think? Dead/Broken? Warranty expired last year according to Seagate's web site with the serial number. Time for a new one? If so, then which reliable brand and model to get to replace it for cheap? :(
Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)
I just bought a new WD 12 TB external USB for $219 plus sales tax.
https://www.amazon.com/12TB-Desktop-External-Drive-WDBBGB0120HBK-NESN/dp/B07X3RBTQT/
Too expensive. :(
Hello,
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the drive anymore.
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: >2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old >HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big >Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the >drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
Hello,
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies with the enclosure rather than the drive.
What's the best way to open it? I see no screws. :(
In article <pLqdneNfK9e4pLP5nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies with the enclosure rather than the drive.
What's the best way to open it? I see no screws. :(
it's held together with clips, but it's not worth it, and depending on
the drive, you might not find a separate bridge board. some drives have
a native usb connector on the drive itself.
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
What's the best way to open it? I see no screws. :(
it's held together with clips, but it's not worth it, and depending on
the drive, you might not find a separate bridge board. some drives have
a native usb connector on the drive itself.
Well, it is broken/dead then it might be worth to open to destroy its
disk platter datas. :P
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <pLqdneNfK9e4pLP5nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant
<ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
could
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I
liestest the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
What's the best way to open it? I see no screws. :(
it's held together with clips, but it's not worth it, and depending on
the drive, you might not find a separate bridge board. some drives have
a native usb connector on the drive itself.
Well, it is broken/dead then it might be worth to open to destroy its
disk platter datas. :P
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
That's certainly what I'd do. It could even just be the USB
connector on the drive if it's been yanked about a bit by the
cable.
I'd also check "lsusb -v" in Linux to confirm it really doesn't
see the drive anymore. If it's not detected at all then something
like a broken USB connector or interface board is quite possible,
but the latter might be part of the drive's own circuit board
depending on the model.
Oh and of course try another USB cable too.
In article <CTOdnWZ7yv7Q1rP5nZ2dnZfqnPadnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
What's the best way to open it? I see no screws. :(
it's held together with clips, but it's not worth it, and depending on the drive, you might not find a separate bridge board. some drives have
a native usb connector on the drive itself.
Well, it is broken/dead then it might be worth to open to destroy its
disk platter datas. :P
you said it was encrypted.
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies with the enclosure rather than the drive.
That's certainly what I'd do. It could even just be the USB
connector on the drive if it's been yanked about a bit by the
cable.
I'd also check "lsusb -v" in Linux to confirm it really doesn't
see the drive anymore. If it's not detected at all then something
like a broken USB connector or interface board is quite possible,
but the latter might be part of the drive's own circuit board
depending on the model.
Oh and of course try another USB cable too.
On 4/6/2023 2:32 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Char Jackson <none@none.invalid>
wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:That's certainly what I'd do. It could even just be the USB
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
connector on the drive if it's been yanked about a bit by the
cable.
I'd also check "lsusb -v" in Linux to confirm it really doesn't
see the drive anymore. If it's not detected at all then something
like a broken USB connector or interface board is quite possible,
but the latter might be part of the drive's own circuit board
depending on the model.
Oh and of course try another USB cable too.
It is always the cables.
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote: >> > On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
That's certainly what I'd do. It could even just be the USB
connector on the drive if it's been yanked about a bit by the
cable.
OK if I give up to open its enclosure.
I'd also check "lsusb -v" in Linux to confirm it really doesn't
see the drive anymore. If it's not detected at all then something
like a broken USB connector or interface board is quite possible,
but the latter might be part of the drive's own circuit board
depending on the model.
https://pastebin.com/raw/xA7Gz2ES for my lsusb -v.
https://pastebin.com/raw/kw39BmBs for my new dmesg -T
both commands ran with sudo.
Oh and of course try another USB cable too.
I will have to find one. :( I was hoping my 500 GB Seagate
HDD had the same cable, but nope!
Well, it is broken/dead then it might be worth to open to destroy its disk platter datas. :P
you said it was encrypted.
Yes, but extra to physically destroy it too. :)
In article <_gWdnYI4VvMNsbL5nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Well, it is broken/dead then it might be worth to open to destroy its disk platter datas. :P
you said it was encrypted.
Yes, but extra to physically destroy it too. :)
smash it with a hammer.
In article <oi7s2itgoq88jaqfsjogej0977j93fbvkb@4ax.com>, Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model: SRD0NF1; P/N: >2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS + exFAT + encrypted old >HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4 computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big >Sur) + 2 PCs [Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the >drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies with the enclosure rather than the drive.
it's probably the drive. the bridge rarely fails.
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
In article <_gWdnYI4VvMNsbL5nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@earthlink.com>, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
Well, it is broken/dead then it might be worth to open to destroy its
disk platter datas. :P
you said it was encrypted.
Yes, but extra to physically destroy it too. :)
smash it with a hammer.
That's my plan for tomorrow.
On 4/6/2023 2:32 AM, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could
test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies
with the enclosure rather than the drive.
That's certainly what I'd do. It could even just be the USB
connector on the drive if it's been yanked about a bit by the
cable.
I'd also check "lsusb -v" in Linux to confirm it really doesn't
see the drive anymore. If it's not detected at all then something
like a broken USB connector or interface board is quite possible,
but the latter might be part of the drive's own circuit board
depending on the model.
Oh and of course try another USB cable too.
It is always the cables.
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
In alt.comp.periphs.hdd Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage Char Jackson <none@none.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 05 Apr 2023 22:01:41 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:
It seems like my Seagate 5 TB portable backup HDD (Model:SRD0NF1; P/N: 2N1AP8-500; 2020; 3 partitions [encrypted APFS
+ exFAT + encrypted old HFS+(journal)) just died. My 4
computers (2 MBPs (2012 Mojave & 2020's Big Sur) + 2 PCs
[Linux/Debian bullseye and 64-bit Windows 10]) don't see the
drive anymore.
I would attempt to remove the drive from its enclosure so that I could >> > test the drive by itself, just on the possibility that the problem lies >> > with the enclosure rather than the drive.
That's certainly what I'd do. It could even just be the USB
connector on the drive if it's been yanked about a bit by the
cable.
OK if I give up to open its enclosure.
I'd also check "lsusb -v" in Linux to confirm it really doesn't
see the drive anymore. If it's not detected at all then something
like a broken USB connector or interface board is quite possible,
but the latter might be part of the drive's own circuit board
depending on the model.
https://pastebin.com/raw/xA7Gz2ES for my lsusb -v.
It looks like "Seagate RSS LLC Portable" is probably your drive,
unless you had another Seagate storage device connected via USB.
That means your problem is really reading the drive rather than
detecting it.
https://pastebin.com/raw/kw39BmBs for my new dmesg -T
both commands ran with sudo.
Yeah looks dead, but it could also be that a cable/connector fault
is preventing it from getting enough power. Usually in that case
you can hear the drive trying to spin up but then spinning down a
bit when the voltage slumps, or possibly making some other weird
noise.
Oh and of course try another USB cable too.
I will have to find one. :( I was hoping my 500 GB Seagate
HDD had the same cable, but nope!
Odds are that the disk probably has died, but if you have got
another cable somewhere then it's an easy extra test to try with
that.
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