• Win 10 v2004 keeps trying to optimize SSD's?

    From Yousuf Khan@bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jun 26 18:41:17 2020
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    According to this video:

    https://youtu.be/ffHIY6pOJUk

    Win 10 v2004 has a bug in it where it keeps coming back after every
    reboot and it says that the SSD needs to be reoptimized again. But it
    realizes that it's an SSD, it's not actually running a defrag on the
    drive, all it's doing is running the Trim command on it.

    As far as I know, the Trim command is passive, it doesn't actually
    rearrange anything on the drive, just goes through and marks deleted
    space as ready for reuse again. I think this should be just fine, it's
    not a problem. What do you think?

    I got two SSD's in my system, and it indeed does come back after every
    reboot to say it requires an optimization. But I'm not worried about this.

    Yousuf Khan
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  • From Rene Lamontagne@rlamont@shaw.ca to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jun 26 18:35:32 2020
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    On 2020-06-26 5:41 p.m., Yousuf Khan wrote:
    According to this video:

    https://youtu.be/ffHIY6pOJUk

    Win 10 v2004 has a bug in it where it keeps coming back after every
    reboot and it says that the SSD needs to be reoptimized again. But it realizes that it's an SSD, it's not actually running a defrag on the
    drive, all it's doing is running the Trim command on it.

    As far as I know, the Trim command is passive, it doesn't actually
    rearrange anything on the drive, just goes through and marks deleted
    space as ready for reuse again. I think this should be just fine, it's
    not a problem. What do you think?

    I got two SSD's in my system, and it indeed does come back after every reboot to say it requires an optimization. But I'm not worried about this.

        Yousuf Khan

    Never happens here on 2 machines with SSDs cold booted every morning.

    Rene

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  • From Paul@nospam@needed.invalid to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Fri Jun 26 20:23:35 2020
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    Yousuf Khan wrote:
    According to this video:

    https://youtu.be/ffHIY6pOJUk

    Win 10 v2004 has a bug in it where it keeps coming back after every
    reboot and it says that the SSD needs to be reoptimized again. But it realizes that it's an SSD, it's not actually running a defrag on the
    drive, all it's doing is running the Trim command on it.

    As far as I know, the Trim command is passive, it doesn't actually
    rearrange anything on the drive, just goes through and marks deleted
    space as ready for reuse again. I think this should be just fine, it's
    not a problem. What do you think?

    I got two SSD's in my system, and it indeed does come back after every reboot to say it requires an optimization. But I'm not worried about this.

    Yousuf Khan

    As far as I know, TRIM is an "advisory command". It allows
    a drive to know which clusters are in usage, and which are not.
    This makes it apparent to the drive "how many spares" it has.

    The drive can choose to re-arrange whatever passes for a "free pool"
    of storage.

    If you were to issue TRIM more frequently, it would mean the
    drive has "less work to do" in each advisory event.

    If you're doing a Macrium restore, it would delete the MBR,
    it would issue a TRIM for the entire drive (all sectors shown
    as unoccupied), and then it would start filling the drive
    with the restored data. It's hard to say in that sequence,
    how much less write amplification would result from
    having a "clean slate" at the beginning of the restore.

    I saw the report of a bug in 2004 for that, but I haven't seen
    a negative comment about it (yet). Maybe someone else can think
    of a reason this is bad...

    Paul
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  • From Yousuf Khan@bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage,alt.comp.os.windows-10 on Sat Jun 27 06:51:08 2020
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    On 6/26/2020 8:23 PM, Paul wrote:
    I saw the report of a bug in 2004 for that, but I haven't seen
    a negative comment about it (yet). Maybe someone else can think
    of a reason this is bad...

    Maybe this is one of those Microsoft bugs that are now a feature?

    Yousuf Khan
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