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    From kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Fri Mar 22 10:40:47 2024
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    Source: https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast


    Larian Studios won’t make any more Baldur’s Gate games

    The studio isn’t making the obvious next move
    By Carli Velocci Mar 21, 2024, 3:16pm EDT

    Now that Baldur’s Gate 3 has been a huge success both critically and financially, people are looking forward to what’s next for developer
    Larian Studios. However, according to studio founder Swen Vincke, the
    future doesn’t lie with the Baldur’s Gate franchise or Dungeons &
    Dragons as a whole.

    During a talk at the Game Developers Conference on Thursday (spotted by
    IGN and confirmed by Polygon in a video on the official conference
    TikTok), Vincke said that Larian won’t be working on any DLC,
    expansions, or a sequel for the game. It would be handing the IP back to Wizards of the Coast and moving on to unrelated projects.

    “Baldur’s Gate 3 will always have a heart — a warm spot in our hearts. We’ll forever be proud of it, but we’re not going to continue it. We’re not going to make new expansions, which everybody is expecting us to do. We’re not going to make Baldur’s Gate 4, which everybody is expecting us to do. We’re going to move on, we’re going to move away from D&D, and we’re going to start making a new thing,” he said.

    Michael Douse, director of publishing at Larian, confirmed the news in a
    post on X (formerly Twitter). “Had a lot of time to reflect on this incredible adventure as everyone has, and I can’t explain how excited I
    am for the next. Hope you join us for that!” he wrote.

    Vincke spoke more about the decision with Gamespot. He explained that he initially wanted to make more Baldur’s Gate, but decided against it.

    “That’s not what we were made for,” Vincke said. “That’s literally the
    opposite of what Larian is about. We want to do big, new things. We
    don’t want to rehash the thing that we’ve done already.”

    All of this doesn’t mean Larian won’t continue to work on Baldur’s Gate 3. Just last month, Douse announced that the team would be working on a “cross-platform plan for mod support,” with implementation still many months away.

    Hasbro, which owns Wizards of the Coast, recognized how successful
    Baldur’s Gate 3 was in its 2023 financial report released last month. It stated that much of Wizard of the Coast and digital gaming’s growth can
    be attributed to Monopoly Go!, Magic: The Gathering, and Baldur’s Gate
    3. It’s also been a huge success critically, winning multiple awards.
    Just a day before the announcement, Baldur’s Gate 3 won four trophies at
    the Game Developers Choice Awards (also put on by GDC), including game
    of the year. It also won game of the year at The Game Awards in 2023.

    Hasbro is therefore interested in growing its gaming output and leaning
    on the Baldur’s Gate franchise, as company CEO Chris Cocks mentioned in
    an earnings call to coincide with the report.

    “2024 is about returning consumer products to profitability, investing
    for long-term momentum in games, and driving significant improvements in Hasbro’s bottom line [...] In short, we’re putting all the right pieces together to keep investing in our growth initiatives while expanding the
    ways our franchises reach fans through digital games,” Cocks said. “We expect a long tail into 2024 and beyond for this mega hit.

    However, Wizards of the Coast was hit with layoffs right before
    Christmas 2023, massively impacting the D&D and Magic teams. This
    includes the team that helped with Baldur’s Gate 3, according to Vincke.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Fri Mar 22 07:37:47 2024
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    On 3/22/2024 2:40 AM, kyonshi wrote:
    Source: https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    I was thinking nice things about Larian reading this. Finally a company
    that wants to put out good, _new_ games, not just endlessly milk a cash
    cow. Until this last paragraph....


    However, Wizards of the Coast was hit with layoffs right before
    Christmas 2023, massively impacting the D&D and Magic teams. This
    includes the team that helped with Baldur’s Gate 3, according to Vincke.

    That made me think this was more corporate spin as the execs were
    thinking "Well, shit, there goes our cash cow franchise...."
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Fri Mar 22 18:26:28 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 3/22/2024 3:37 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 3/22/2024 2:40 AM, kyonshi wrote:
    Source:
    https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    I was thinking nice things about Larian reading this.  Finally a company that wants to put out good, _new_ games, not just endlessly milk a cash cow.  Until this last paragraph....


    However, Wizards of the Coast was hit with layoffs right before
    Christmas 2023, massively impacting the D&D and Magic teams. This
    includes the team that helped with Baldur’s Gate 3, according to Vincke.

    That made me think this was more corporate spin as the execs were
    thinking "Well, shit, there goes our cash cow franchise...."


    Maybe WotC thinks they don't need that team anymore and that they can
    replace them by AI. Seems to be their favorite idea lately.
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Fri Mar 22 13:38:28 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 3/22/2024 10:26 AM, kyonshi wrote:
    On 3/22/2024 3:37 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:
    On 3/22/2024 2:40 AM, kyonshi wrote:
    Source:
    https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    I was thinking nice things about Larian reading this.  Finally a
    company that wants to put out good, _new_ games, not just endlessly
    milk a cash cow.  Until this last paragraph....


    However, Wizards of the Coast was hit with layoffs right before
    Christmas 2023, massively impacting the D&D and Magic teams. This
    includes the team that helped with Baldur’s Gate 3, according to Vincke. >>
    That made me think this was more corporate spin as the execs were
    thinking "Well, shit, there goes our cash cow franchise...."


    Maybe WotC thinks they don't need that team anymore and that they can replace them by AI. Seems to be their favorite idea lately.

    http://www.dorktower.com/2024/03/18/18518/
    and the two comics following it....
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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  • From Justisaur@justisaur@yahoo.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Fri Mar 22 14:20:40 2024
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    On 3/22/2024 2:40 AM, kyonshi wrote:
    Source: https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    However, Wizards of the Coast was hit with layoffs right before
    Christmas 2023, massively impacting the D&D and Magic teams. This
    includes the team that helped with Baldur’s Gate 3, according to Vincke.

    #@#$%^ Hazardbruh shooting themselves in the foot again. Too bad
    they're a corporate centipede and have some left.
    --
    -Justisaur

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  • From Ubiquitous@weberm@polaris.net to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Tue Apr 2 11:26:15 2024
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    In article <utjjmv$2rgo2$1@dont-email.me>, gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:

    Source: https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    Now that Baldur's Gate 3 has been a huge success both critically and >financially, people are looking forward to what's next for developer
    Larian Studios. However, according to studio founder Swen Vincke, the
    future doesn't lie with the Baldur's Gate franchise or Dungeons &
    Dragons as a whole.

    That sounds like a very stupid decision.

    --
    Let's go Brandon!

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  • From Lane Larson@lnlarson@stoat.inhoin.edu to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Tue Apr 2 21:20:29 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    Ubiquitous wrote:
    In article <utjjmv$2rgo2$1@dont-email.me>, gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:

    Source:
    https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    Now that Baldur's Gate 3 has been a huge success both critically and
    financially, people are looking forward to what's next for developer
    Larian Studios. However, according to studio founder Swen Vincke, the
    future doesn't lie with the Baldur's Gate franchise or Dungeons &
    Dragons as a whole.

    That sounds like a very stupid decision.

    It sounds like the whole studio got burned out making BG III. Maybe the payoff wasn't worth the effort. My friend gave it a very negative
    review on Steam. Also they are still competing with Elden Ring which on
    the other hand is definitely a top seller.

    Just think how much over the top BG IV will have to be, they would have
    to spend a million man hours each throwing themselves into the game development. I think that's the real issue that it is slog work. How
    would you like to be a slave lifting giant blocks to build a pyramid
    funereal resting place for some self-obsessed pharaoh? The top games
    cost 100s of millions of dollars to make. Maybe by this point in time
    there is a game that costed over a billion to develop.

    It sounds like a very sad decision but I wouldn't call it stupid. I'm
    playing Divinity II on and off, and it is a work of art. I appreciate
    Larian, but I've always thought Baldur's Gate was more for the unwashed masses. Both the Shannara books and Lord of the Rings start with an
    ignoble hero forced to pick up and go on the march. Can you even play
    the game and not suspect that Sauron is behind it all? What drew me
    back to the game several times was the image of a ring in an early chest
    in the fortress-city of Candlekeep.
    --
    Heya it's me, Imoen.
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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to rec.games.frp.dnd,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg,alt.games.baldurs-gate on Wed Apr 3 12:51:56 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 4/3/2024 4:20 AM, Lane Larson wrote:
    Ubiquitous wrote:
    In article <utjjmv$2rgo2$1@dont-email.me>, gmkeros@gmail.com wrote:

    Source:
    https://www.polygon.com/24107939/baldurs-gate-3-larian-studios-no-more-dnd-wizards-of-the-coast

    Now that Baldur's Gate 3 has been a huge success both critically and
    financially, people are looking forward to what's next for developer
    Larian Studios. However, according to studio founder Swen Vincke, the
    future doesn't lie with the Baldur's Gate franchise or Dungeons &
    Dragons as a whole.

    That sounds like a very stupid decision.

    It sounds like the whole studio got burned out making BG III.  Maybe the payoff wasn't worth the effort.  My friend gave it a very negative
    review on Steam.  Also they are still competing with Elden Ring which on the other hand is definitely a top seller.

    Well, from what I have seen it definitely is a bestselling game right
    now, to the point of making up for Hasbro's shortfall in their toy
    business (it earned 700 million dollars, outselling even Hogwarts
    Legacy, which is why they are trying to get more into gaming right now)


    Just think how much over the top BG IV will have to be, they would have
    to spend a million man hours each throwing themselves into the game development.  I think that's the real issue that it is slog work.  How would you like to be a slave lifting giant blocks to build a pyramid funereal resting place for some self-obsessed pharaoh?  The top games
    cost 100s of millions of dollars to make.  Maybe by this point in time there is a game that costed over a billion to develop.

    It sounds like a very sad decision but I wouldn't call it stupid.  I'm playing Divinity II on and off, and it is a work of art.  I appreciate Larian, but I've always thought Baldur's Gate was more for the unwashed masses.  Both the Shannara books and Lord of the Rings start with an ignoble hero forced to pick up and go on the march.  Can you even play
    the game and not suspect that Sauron is behind it all?  What drew me
    back to the game several times was the image of a ring in an early chest
    in the fortress-city of Candlekeep.
    --
    Heya it's me, Imoen.

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