• Re: Diablo or Daggerfall?

    From Stephen W@welbourn.stephen@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Sun Aug 27 15:39:17 2023
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    On Friday, March 28, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Todd Howard wrote:
    tc...@sprintmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:25:57 GMT, itl...@sn.no (Magnus Itland) wrote:

    jwt...@aol.com (JWT001) wrote:

    If you like RPG's, buy daggerfall. If you like actiony show off your >>computer games, buy diablo.
    Buy daggerfall then. Its gooooodddd.

    I also think Daggerfall is very good, but looking around on this
    very newsgroup it seems fair to say that some people dislike it
    strongly. I think Daggerfall is a "love or hate" game.
    Also I would recommend Daggerfall for grown-ups, but not for kids.
    --
    itl...@sn.no Yes! The one and only Magnus Itland.
    The first signs of mental breakdown can be subtle,
    such as for instance a slightly altered signature.

    I am very much a grownup, and I have liked many RPG's such as U7 and
    the Might and Magic games, but I really hated Daggerfall. The crappy graphics, repetitive town scenes, pointless quests, etc. made it no
    fun at all for me. I don't normally like action games like Doom, but
    I found Diablo very enjoyable for quite a while even though it is more action than true RPG. I am now off Diablo until there is some kind of sequel or expansion pack, but it was VERY fun while it lasted.
    Hold off to the end of the year and buy REDGUARD, the new ELDER SCROLLS ADVENTURES game <G>.
    I'm holding out for Starfield
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  • From Harry Classon@harryrclasson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Sun Sep 3 04:59:32 2023
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    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:
    On Friday, March 28, 1997 at 2:00:00 AM UTC-6, Todd Howard wrote:
    tc...@sprintmail.com wrote:

    On Thu, 27 Mar 1997 14:25:57 GMT, itl...@sn.no (Magnus Itland) wrote:

    jwt...@aol.com (JWT001) wrote:

    If you like RPG's, buy daggerfall. If you like actiony show off your >>computer games, buy diablo.
    Buy daggerfall then. Its gooooodddd.

    I also think Daggerfall is very good, but looking around on this
    very newsgroup it seems fair to say that some people dislike it >strongly. I think Daggerfall is a "love or hate" game.
    Also I would recommend Daggerfall for grown-ups, but not for kids.
    --
    itl...@sn.no Yes! The one and only Magnus Itland.
    The first signs of mental breakdown can be subtle,
    such as for instance a slightly altered signature.

    I am very much a grownup, and I have liked many RPG's such as U7 and
    the Might and Magic games, but I really hated Daggerfall. The crappy graphics, repetitive town scenes, pointless quests, etc. made it no
    fun at all for me. I don't normally like action games like Doom, but
    I found Diablo very enjoyable for quite a while even though it is more action than true RPG. I am now off Diablo until there is some kind of sequel or expansion pack, but it was VERY fun while it lasted.
    Hold off to the end of the year and buy REDGUARD, the new ELDER SCROLLS ADVENTURES game <G>.
    I'm holding out for Starfield
    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Mon Jan 29 00:41:24 2024
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    On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

    I'm holding out for Starfield
    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo

    and why shouldn't they?
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  • From Julian@j63840576@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Sun Jan 28 16:50:22 2024
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    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

    I'm holding out for Starfield
    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
    and why shouldn't they?
    Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.
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  • From Mark P. Nelson@markpnelson@sbcglobal.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Mon Jan 29 16:35:25 2024
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    Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:

    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:

    I'm holding out for Starfield
    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
    and why shouldn't they?

    Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
    people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.


    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files
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  • From Spalls Hurgenson@spallshurgenson@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Tue Jan 30 21:15:19 2024
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    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson" <markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in >news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:


    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
    and why shouldn't they?

    Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
    people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

    I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
    still playable.

    Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
    can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

    There's the original, still for sale. https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
    There's the Unity-engine remake https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
    There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
    And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
    Bay" mod in development
    https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay

    In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
    the future.

    That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
    "Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
    world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
    Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
    their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with
    "Starfield" ;-)

    But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
    available to you these days, so have at it.



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  • From Kyonshi@gmkeros@gmail.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Wed Jan 31 09:52:39 2024
    From Newsgroup: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg

    On 1/31/2024 3:15 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:
    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson" <markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in
    news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:


    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
    and why shouldn't they?

    Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
    people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

    I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
    still playable.

    Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
    can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

    There's the original, still for sale. https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
    There's the Unity-engine remake https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
    There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
    And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
    Bay" mod in development
    https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay

    In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
    the future.

    That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
    "Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
    world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
    Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
    their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with "Starfield" ;-)

    But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
    available to you these days, so have at it.




    I think technically Daggerfall and the Elder Scrolls had a bit more
    staying power than Diablo. I mean Diablo was massive at the time and
    certainly had it's influence, but I just don't see many people still
    playing it the same way that people are totally into Skyrim after over
    ten years. I mean, Diablo 3 came out in 2012 and Skyrim in 2011, but I
    see lots of people still deeply invested into Skyrim, and no mentions of Diablo III at all. Not even Diablo IV. But maybe I am just not looking
    at the right places.
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  • From Xocyll@Xocyll@gmx.com to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Wed Jan 31 10:50:36 2024
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    Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
    say:

    On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:35:25 -0000 (UTC), "Mark P. Nelson" ><markpnelson@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    Julian <j63840576@gmail.com> wrote in >>news:5b75d6d5-c95c-4307-b9c2-904bc2fc0f86n@googlegroups.com:
    On Sunday, January 28, 2024 at 5:41:26 PM UTC-6, Kyonshi wrote:
    On 9/3/2023 1:59 PM, Harry Classon wrote:
    måndag 28 augusti 2023 kl. 00:39:19 UTC+2 skrev Stephen W:


    lmao this thread is over 20 years old people still writing lmaooo
    and why shouldn't they?

    Because Daggerfall is non-existent. All you're going to do is make
    people wish they could play it, and wishes are unholy.

    https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Files

    I dunno how Daggerfall is 'non-existent'. It still exists, and is
    still playable.

    Even if you don't have your original CD (or was it floppy disks? I
    can't remember offhand), you still have plenty of options:

    It was cd. And I still have my boxed Daggerfall, complete with all my
    notes about soul bonuses and negatives, vampire clans etc.


    There's the original, still for sale. >https://www.gog.com/en/game/the_elder_scrolls_chapter_ii_daggerfall
    There's the Unity-engine remake >https://www.gog.com/en/game/daggerfall_unity_gog_cut
    There's "Daggerblivion", a mod for Elder Scrolls Oblivion >https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/11549503-daggerblivion-development/
    And let's not forget the massive "Beyond Skyrim" which has the "Illiac
    Bay" mod in development
    https://beyondskyrim.org/iliac-bay

    In short, there's lot of Daggerfall still to play, and will be more in
    the future.

    It's on Steam too.

    That said, I think there are a lot of better games to play than
    "Daggerfall", regardless of which version you choose. Its procedural
    world was just too large and lacked character; a clear case of
    Bethesda choosing quantity over quality. Fortunately, they learned
    their lesson in later games (and then promptly forgot it again with >"Starfield" ;-)

    But if you want to play Daggerfall, there are a lot of options
    available to you these days, so have at it.


    Oh to have Daggerfall in a modern engine like the one used for Black
    Desert Online.

    Xocyll
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  • From Dimensional Traveler@dtravel@sonic.net to comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.rpg on Wed Jan 31 08:26:52 2024
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    Diablofall!
    --
    I've done good in this world. Now I'm tired and just want to be a cranky
    dirty old man.

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