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... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O
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On 4/19/2024 12:30 PM, Ant wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

Elite may be considered an action game, space combat after all. I have
a copy of From Dusk 'till Dawn which was 2001, that might be my oldest I
still have. I don't actually remember ever playing it though

I wasn't really all that that big on action games, more RPGs, I'm not
really sure what my first action game was. If I say one that I really
got into, it's probably Magic Carpet or Wing Commander III. Populous
maybe, I'm not sure that counts either? I played WCIII on a friend's
Computer first and only got it many years later. I'm not sure when I
actually bought it. I don't have any of those left of course. I had
Doom of course at some point, probably years later than it came out too.
I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then?

All of them. Other than throwing out some games boxes when I moved once,
I've kept every game I've ever bought. I have lost a game or two over
the years, but I don't think any of them are action games.
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On 4/20/2024 12:22 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:

Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then?

All of them. Other than throwing out some games boxes when I moved once, I've kept every game I've ever bought. I have lost a game or two over
the years, but I don't think any of them are action games.

Same, I don't think I ever threw away something I still could get some
use out of, even if some of those discs have been collecting dust
somewhere in the back of a cupboard for nearly 30 years.
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 01:02:53 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

Same, I don't think I ever threw away something I still could get some
use out of, even if some of those discs have been collecting dust
somewhere in the back of a cupboard for nearly 30 years.

Same here. I don't throw away game boxes.

To answer Ant's question.. most of my collection is made up of
adventure games, RPGs and strategy games... but I do own a few action
games.

My oldest action game on the PC is a game called Aaargh!. Yes that is
the name of the game. I can't find a copyright date anywhere on the
box, manual or disks but I just checked with google and the game was
released on various platforms in 1987, 1988 and 1989. It is, I
believe, a Rampage clone. I own action games older then this but I
would have to go through my C-64 collection to find the oldest.
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On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

It, of course, depends on how you define "still own".

If you accept the fact that I imaged all my floppy disks to hard-drive
(well, technically first to ZIP drive, then to CD-ROM, then to DVD,
and finally to hard-drive), then I still own /all/ the DOS-era games I purchased back then. I even have the manuals! I just don't have the
original media or boxes for most of them. I honestly don't remember
which was my first PC game: "Nuclear War", maybe? "Vette"?
Technically, it would probably be "Gorilla.bas", since it came
pre-installed with DOS. None of which I still own the floppy-disks for
;-)

But if you're a bit pickier and insist that the games must be
floppy-disk, then the number drops dramatically. I think "Wing
Commander" would be the oldest PC action game I still own on original
media ("Ultima VI" is older, but it's a CRPG so not eligible in this
contest. It's one of the few games I still own 'complete in box',
though). A few others include "Terminator 2029", "Zone 66" and the
older "Battletech" games (although, while the Battletech games were
/released/ prior to "Wing Commander", the disks themselves are a
compilation set dating back to 1993 and that's when I bought them).

My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.

Of course, over the years I've since acquired many of the DOS-era
games that I missed the first time around. Some of those even predate
the 90s! But - again - I don't think they count because I didn't add
them to the library until decades after their release.

I think I still have my original Zork disks and a copy of "H.E.R.O"
for the Apple II lying around somewhere, though. But you specified PC
games so we're not counting those either.


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On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.

This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.
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Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.
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Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.

This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.

Those aren't action games. /s
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Justisaur wrote:

On 4/19/2024 12:30 PM, Ant wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

Elite may be considered an action game, space combat after all.  I have
a copy of From Dusk 'till Dawn which was 2001, that might be my oldest I still have.  I don't actually remember ever playing it though

I wasn't really all that that big on action games, more RPGs, I'm not
really sure what my first action game was.  If I say one that I really
got into, it's probably Magic Carpet or Wing Commander III.  Populous maybe, I'm not sure that counts either?  I played WCIII on a friend's Computer first and only got it many years later.  I'm not sure when I actually bought it.  I don't have any of those left of course.  I had
Doom of course at some point, probably years later than it came out too.
 I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

That Intellivision AD&D game was good. That's why I think they will
have something powerful in the VR version.
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On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.

This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.

Those aren't action games. /s

Oho, it's like that, is it? ;-)

The thing is, until the mid 90s, most action games were small enough
not to NEED CD-ROMs. "Doom" shipped on three (?) floppy disks and,
installed, needed maybe 10MB disk-space. The games that benefitted the
most were adventure games, since they had the most expansive and
detailed worlds (not to mention the most talkative characters). So
most CD-ROM games were for that genre first.

Still... first /action/ game for PC that came on CD-ROM?

Hmmm... I have a CD-ROM for "D/Generation" has a 1991 copyright on
it... but I'm not sure if that's the copyright of the game (which was
also released on floppy) or for the CD-ROM. I remember buying the game
on floppy, so I assume the CD-ROM version came much later.

"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic
rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.




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On 4/21/2024 4:41 PM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably >>>> one of the first.

This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.

Those aren't action games. /s

Oho, it's like that, is it? ;-)

The thing is, until the mid 90s, most action games were small enough
not to NEED CD-ROMs. "Doom" shipped on three (?) floppy disks and,
installed, needed maybe 10MB disk-space. The games that benefitted the
most were adventure games, since they had the most expansive and
detailed worlds (not to mention the most talkative characters). So
most CD-ROM games were for that genre first.

Still... first /action/ game for PC that came on CD-ROM?

Hmmm... I have a CD-ROM for "D/Generation" has a 1991 copyright on
it... but I'm not sure if that's the copyright of the game (which was
also released on floppy) or for the CD-ROM. I remember buying the game
on floppy, so I assume the CD-ROM version came much later.

"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

That's interesting, I had thought Rebel Assault came a bit earlier than X-Wing. But no, RA was out half a year after X-Wing.
I do think it made more sense as a non-pc game. I think it was mostly developed as a console game, and the DOS version just came out to
capture that market as well. It makes more sense as a console game of
the time: it has a more simplistic gameplay ready to be played by
controller, and the whole game is basically designed to showcase the
advanced capabilities of the systems it was supposed to run on (mostly
the ill-fated 3DO, but also the Sega CD).
Is it good? No, but it gave me a Star Wars fix when that wasn't so easy
to get. I mean it was the 90s before Episode 1, they didn't just throw
Star Wars media at you at that point.
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On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

Those aren't action games. /s

Ok fine I just checked. I thought it was going to be Magic Carpet and
Dark Forces which are Copyright 1994 each. But no, I can beat those by
just a bit.

I have something called Star Wars Rebel Assault which has a copyright
date of 1993. That is my oldest action game on CD-ROM.
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On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 10:41:25 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its >award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic >rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

Well I am glad you can remember Rebel Assault because I can't. I own
it but I have no memories of it at all.
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 22:08:25 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Sat, 20 Apr 2024 10:42:28 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson
<spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

My games on CD-ROM are far more numerous. I can't remember which was
the first game I purchased on CD-ROM, but "Kings Quest V" was probably
one of the first.

This one is easy for me to remember. It was The 7th Guest. But King's
Quest V is up there for me as well.

Those aren't action games. /s

Oho, it's like that, is it? ;-)

The thing is, until the mid 90s, most action games were small enough
not to NEED CD-ROMs. "Doom" shipped on three (?) floppy disks and,
installed, needed maybe 10MB disk-space. The games that benefitted the
most were adventure games, since they had the most expansive and
detailed worlds (not to mention the most talkative characters). So
most CD-ROM games were for that genre first.

Still... first /action/ game for PC that came on CD-ROM?

Hmmm... I have a CD-ROM for "D/Generation" has a 1991 copyright on
it... but I'm not sure if that's the copyright of the game (which was
also released on floppy) or for the CD-ROM. I remember buying the game
on floppy, so I assume the CD-ROM version came much later.

"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware
dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with
compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

Yeah, RA was pretty for multimedia showoff but linear and no
replayability. I remember buying it from my local CompUSA store. I
regretted too.

Commander Keen, Prince of Persia, etc. were action types. ;)
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Mike S. <Mike_S@nowhere.com> wrote:

On Sun, 21 Apr 2024 10:41:25 -0400, Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> wrote:

"Rebel Assault" from 1993 is a more likely candidate. It was certainly
one of the earliest made-for-CD action games, as opposed to shovelware >dumped onto CD-ROM because the medium was cool. It was such a
disappointing game; pushed by LucasArts as a potential sequel to its >award-winning X-Wing, it turned out to be an extremely simplistic >rail-shooter. Worse, the technology of the time meant that - in order
to get a smooth framerate - the full-screen video was filled with >compression artifacts that made the game really hard to look at. We
forgave it, of course, because CD-ROM and FMV were the new hotness at
the time, but it really was quite a terrible game.

Well I am glad you can remember Rebel Assault because I can't. I own
it but I have no memories of it at all.

I only remember pretty visuals and linear difficult short gameplay.
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On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

"Workstations"
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Ant wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

Space Empires IV Deluxe
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Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

I still have Pentium 2 @ 350 MHz, with Savage3D 8 MB Video card, on which
I play Duke3D, and other games.
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On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I >>>>> might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

"Workstations"

or maybe "Playstations"

I don't see any problem with that
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 07:38 this Monday (GMT):

On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I >>>>>> might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

"Workstations"

or maybe "Playstations"

I don't see any problem with that

Nah, an X86box would be a better name :)
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On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2024 06:11:14 -0000 (UTC), address@is.invalid (LucLan)
wrote:

Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

I still have Pentium 2 @ 350 MHz, with Savage3D 8 MB Video card, on which
I play Duke3D, and other games.

Ah, retro-PCs.
We all love them.
...
Well, some of us love them.
...
Well, /I/ love them. ;-)

My 'primary' retro-PC is my "Project98" box; Pentium II/300, Voodoo3,
and a hard-drive big enough to store the ripped CD-ROMs of waaaaay too
many games. But I've also a Pentium PC for running Win95, with a
Matrox Mystique, Pure3D 3DFX, Soundblaster Pro and my beloved Gravis Ultrasound. Honestly, though, that one gets a lot less attention, just
because Win95 was /such/ a flakey OS. I've also an IBM Thinkpad, that
dual boots DOS/Win3 and Windows95... although I mostly love that one
for its Trackpoint mouse-nub thingee.

But I generally don't go for older hardware than that, just because I
can get much the same experience from emulation with a lot less
hassle. DOSBox lets me launch a thousand plus games without rebooting
once, and I can even swap 'hardware'. Win95/98 era computing isn't
quite up to that ease-of-use yet (somebody really needs to make an
easy-to-use Win9x VM with multi-level containerization). So I stick
with original hardware for those games.




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On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

But can you do your work on consoles? :P
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On 4/22/2024 6:43 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

But can you do your work on consoles? :P

where there's a will there's a way...

https://notin.tokyo/nesos/

https://chorman0773.github.io/SNES-OS/

https://github.com/sikthehedgehog/indigo

https://www.retrorgb.com/collapseos-z80-based-operating-system.html
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spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs say:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

They're probably a little on the younger side, so when they came into
computers there was only the IBM compatibles and the Macs left.
Sinclair something, Commodore Pet, Vic20, C64, TRS-80 line, Apple 2g and others, likely loads I am forgetting.

They were all personal computers, but many of them are better left on
the garbage heap of history.

Or that awful networked PC for use in schools, the Unisys Icon.

Xocyll
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Monday (GMT):

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

To be fair, they usually have better performance/price ratio.
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On 4/22/2024 11:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 6:43 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I >>>>>> might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

But can you do your work on consoles? :P

where there's a will there's a way...

https://notin.tokyo/nesos/

https://chorman0773.github.io/SNES-OS/

https://github.com/sikthehedgehog/indigo

https://www.retrorgb.com/collapseos-z80-based-operating-system.html

I remember something about people using one of the PS iterations for
running servers with Linux because the HW was cheaper at the performance
than PC hardware. Sony of course tried to kill that off.

I remember using GEOS on a c-64 for my mom's business for a bit, though
a c-64 is a PC, just didn't come with an WYSIWYG os.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(8-bit_operating_system)
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On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:

On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. 
I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

"Workstations"

or maybe "Playstations"

I don't see any problem with that

Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT):

On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)

And tighter control.
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

heh, it "bugs" you
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candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might >> >> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >> >> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

heh, it "bugs" you

Quit bugging me. ;)
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Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 18:47 this Tuesday (GMT):

candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> wrote:

Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote at 19:45 this Sunday (GMT):

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >> >> >> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

heh, it "bugs" you

Quit bugging me. ;)

ok :)
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On 4/22/2024 11:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/22/2024 11:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 6:43 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was >>>>>>> the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

But can you do your work on consoles? :P

where there's a will there's a way...

https://notin.tokyo/nesos/

https://chorman0773.github.io/SNES-OS/

https://github.com/sikthehedgehog/indigo

https://www.retrorgb.com/collapseos-z80-based-operating-system.html

I remember something about people using one of the PS iterations for
running servers with Linux because the HW was cheaper at the performance than PC hardware.  Sony of course tried to kill that off.

yeah, the PS3 was priced as a loss leader, on the assumption that people
would buy more games. Of course then it turned out it was a great way to
get hardware for a cheap price. It was a thing for a while. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3_cluster

I remember using GEOS on a c-64 for my mom's business for a bit, though
a c-64 is a PC, just didn't come with an WYSIWYG os.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GEOS_(8-bit_operating_system)

Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC
(Macs? Macs were circling the drain for years. Noone wanted a Mac. That company wouldn't exist in one or two years...)
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On 4/23/2024 11:07 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:

On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific.

"Workstations"

or maybe "Playstations"

I don't see any problem with that

Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.

that's because you first have to get the games running, and then you
stop play because you have to install the next one...

at least that's how it goes for me sometimes
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On 4/22/2024 9:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Monday (GMT):

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

To be fair, they usually have better performance/price ratio.

until they don't and they need to come up with a new generation to catch
up with the PC market. I've seen that circle multiple times already.
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 19:11 this Tuesday (GMT):

On 4/23/2024 11:07 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:

On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific. >>>>>

"Workstations"

or maybe "Playstations"

I don't see any problem with that

Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.

that's because you first have to get the games running, and then you
stop play because you have to install the next one...

at least that's how it goes for me sometimes

Don't forget the 100GB updates.
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On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead before the
term PC started to be commonly used.

Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based
desktop PC and not a more generic one.

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candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT):

On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)

And tighter control.

Not for FPS...
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JAB wrote:

On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead before the term PC started to be commonly used.

Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based desktop PC and not a more generic one.

*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will tell
you!

The term doesn't really concern me. I think it's falling out of favor.
I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air about it.
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On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 19:11 this Tuesday (GMT):

On 4/23/2024 11:07 AM, Anssi Saari wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> writes:

On 4/21/2024 10:47 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:45 PM, Ant wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/21/2024 12:07 AM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games. >>>>>>>>

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Ah, we are choosing violence today, hmm?

(not that I think you are wrong, I totally agree with you)

Yeah, it bugs me when people think PCs are just IBM types. Many
computers are personal! They should just say IBM PCs to be specific. >>>>>>

"Workstations"

or maybe "Playstations"

I don't see any problem with that

Well... There was the old joke about if trains stop at train stations
then what stops at workstations? So I see a bit of a problem with the
play stations if play stops there.

that's because you first have to get the games running, and then you
stop play because you have to install the next one...

at least that's how it goes for me sometimes

Don't forget the 100GB updates.

Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.
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On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:

candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday
(GMT):

On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was >>>>>>> the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

Lobotomized personal computers with better PR.  ;)

And tighter control.

Not for FPS...

some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really
have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)
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On 4/24/2024 3:58 AM, Lane Larson wrote:

JAB wrote:

On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
before the term PC started to be commonly used.

Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows based
desktop PC and not a more generic one.

*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
tell you!

The term doesn't really concern me.  I think it's falling out of favor.
I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air about it.

Apple users have to be up in the air about everything because that's
where their noses are. ;)
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On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:

candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday
(GMT):

On 4/22/2024 8:39 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

   I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on. >>>>>>>> I might
count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking >>>>>>>> was the
D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

Lobotomized personal computers with better PR.  ;)

And tighter control.

Not for FPS...

some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)

I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting more restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

[snip]

Don't forget the 100GB updates.

Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.

Sorry :P
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Lane Larson <lnlarson@stoat.inhoin.edu> wrote at 10:54 this Wednesday (GMT):

candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 00:49 this Tuesday (GMT): [snip]

Lobotomized personal computers with better PR. ;)

And tighter control.

Not for FPS...

I meant control over the OS..
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Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:23 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:

candycanearter07 wrote:

[snip]

And tighter control.

Not for FPS...

some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really
have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)

I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting more restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....

Yeah.
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On 4/24/2024 5:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote at 14:23 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/24/2024 5:41 AM, Kyonshi wrote:

On 4/24/2024 12:54 PM, Lane Larson wrote:

candycanearter07 wrote:

[snip]

And tighter control.

Not for FPS...

some things are easier to play on consoles, some are harder. they really >>> have different niches. (although, considering I can just use a gamepad
on my PC that's not really a difference anymore)

I think "tighter control" here refers to the manufacturer exerting more
restrictive control over what you can do with the equipment....

Yeah.

yeah, so I completely misread that.
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On 4/24/2024 4:20 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/24/2024 3:58 AM, Lane Larson wrote:

JAB wrote:

On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
before the term PC started to be commonly used.

Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows
based desktop PC and not a more generic one.

*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
tell you!

The term doesn't really concern me.  I think it's falling out of
favor. I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air
about it.

Apple users have to be up in the air about everything because that's
where their noses are.   ;)

I mean, you have to breathe somehow.
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On 4/24/2024 5:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

[snip]

Don't forget the 100GB updates.

Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.

Sorry :P

Which reminds me I finally should try that Mass Effect trilogy thing
that didn't want to work on my old computer.
The solution they had for any issue was to reinstall the whole thing.
The whole 100gb+. Sheer madness.
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 17:35 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/24/2024 4:20 PM, Dimensional Traveler wrote:

On 4/24/2024 3:58 AM, Lane Larson wrote:

JAB wrote:

On 23/04/2024 20:17, Kyonshi wrote:

Yeah, I wouldn't call the C64 anything but a PC really. But I do
remember that it started back then when they decided to split up
categories into C64, Atari ST, Amiga,... and the (IBM) PC

At the time computers like the C64, Spectrum etc. were just called
home computers and as far as I remember they were pretty much dead
before the term PC started to be commonly used.

Personally I assume that if someone says PC* they mean a Windows
based desktop PC and not a more generic one.

*Of course if they have an Apple PC then I'm pretty sure they will
tell you!

The term doesn't really concern me.  I think it's falling out of
favor. I can understand how Apple Mac users would be up in the air
about it.

Apple users have to be up in the air about everything because that's
where their noses are.   ;)

I mean, you have to breathe somehow.

No i dont
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Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 17:35 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/24/2024 5:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 11:05 this Wednesday (GMT):

On 4/23/2024 10:00 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

[snip]

Don't forget the 100GB updates.

Oh right, I already had struck the horror from my mind. Thanks for
reminding me.

Sorry :P

Which reminds me I finally should try that Mass Effect trilogy thing
that didn't want to work on my old computer.
The solution they had for any issue was to reinstall the whole thing.
The whole 100gb+. Sheer madness.

/ouch/. I hope you have good wifi.
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On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 21:18:52 +0200, Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote:

On 4/22/2024 9:10 PM, candycanearter07 wrote:

Kyonshi <gmkeros@gmail.com> wrote at 15:39 this Monday (GMT):

On 4/22/2024 4:48 PM, Justisaur wrote:

On 4/20/2024 3:07 PM, Ant wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:
...

  I had an Atari ST after my C-64 that I played a of games on.  I might >>>>>> count my intellivision before the C-64, All I remember liking was the >>>>>> D&D game, tennis, and blackjack, though those aren't PC games.

Well, those old computers are personal. ;) Even Macs.

Sorry if I wasn't clear, the 3 games I mentioned were on the
intellivision, which was a console.

ah, consoles are just personal computers with better PR

To be fair, they usually have better performance/price ratio.

until they don't and they need to come up with a new generation to catch
up with the PC market. I've seen that circle multiple times already.

And I'm not really sure they ever did... at least not since the 8-bit
days (and maybe not even then). If all you focused on was
price-per-MIPS, maybe you could count consoles ahead, but computers
always had other advantages, not least the immense lead in memory and
storage. Console's biggest advantage wasn't their performance, or even
(I'd argue) their price; it was their ease-of-use, both from the
standpoint of the developer and end-user. It also didn't hurt that
consoles were single-purpose devices dedicated to a single task,
whereas most PCs had to divvie up their capabilities between a variety
of different uses (many often running in the background).

If you bought a console, you knew you weren't getting top-of-the-line
computing capability; you were getting cut-rate computing that was
reasonably priced and - although limited in what you could do with it
- was as plug-n-play as your average toaster. But If you really wanted
to maximize the price-per-computer, you went with computers, whether
those were from retailer or custom jobs. It's why - despite unfounded
rumors like how the "Playstation 2" was being bought in bulk to
perform nuclear weapons development - consoles never found any real
use (outside hobbiests having fun with it) other than to play games.


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On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 01:54:15 -0400, shawn
<nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.

I really quite enjoyed Crusader.

Not just because it was a smashing game, although it was. It allowed a destructibility in the level that was really quite novel for its time.
Armed with an array of overpowered weapons, it seemed like almost
everything exploded (or at least showed signs of damage) when shot.
Often, this was only a visual effect (although, back in the DOS days,
even this was a tremendous evolution from the normally static levels
of other games) but sometimes, it would affect gameplay.

It had a rocking soundtrack too. It used 'tracker' music (MOD files),
which - for a while - seemed like it was going to become the new
format for game-music, supplanting MIDI. I still have the MOD files,
ripped from the game, on my hard-drive and they get the occasional
listen.*

But it was also the fact that the game was based on the Ultima 8
engine. "Ultima 8" was such a disappointment in terms of gameplay; it
was more action oriented, offered fewer player options, and was
generally a very clunky game. But seeing its engine re-purposed to
make an actual action game seemed to indicate that Origin - the
developers - had recognized their error and were back on track for
making the usual, excellent games. It was a promise of better things
to come.
(It was, unfortunately, an unfulfilled promise, with disappointments
like "Ultima 9" and "Wing Commander Prophecy" soon to kill the
company... but in 1995 it felt like renewed hope).


The box of "Crusader: No Remorse" itself was quite striking too. The
eponymous Crusader, in his red, plasticy armor, was eye-catching, as
was the "if you don't have a bad attitude, you don't have a chance"
tagline on the back cover. And Origin was still knocking it out of the
park with its manuals, filled not only with instructions on how to
play the game, but lots of added lore details.

A fun game, all around.
















* technically, I listen to MP3s made from the original MOD files. It's
just easier that way, and I can dump the files into my usual player so
they show up in the random shuffle with all the other MP3s.
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shawn <nanoflower@notforg.m.a.i.l.com> wrote:

On Fri, 19 Apr 2024 19:30:57 +0000, ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) wrote:

... Which ACTION PC games do you still own when you bought them back
then? My parents still kept my Fire Hawk (Thexder 2) which I discovered
in my toy box that they kept. I remember playing that game on my IBM
PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC back then. :O

I still have Crusader: No Remorse and the original box.

I played its demo. It was OK.
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