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On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:55:17 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
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On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:

I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

  Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season
coming!  Guess they are confident
https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200

That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual >internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

I'm not really sure who the show really is for. Diehard fans of the
game are going to hate it, just because it will inevitably stray from
the source material. ("How can you watch it? They said the Great War
started in 2243 when everybody knows it started in 2047!")*.
Casual fans aren't going to rush to watch the TV show just because of
the association. And Post-apocalyptics as a genre aren't really that
popular on TV in general (not to mention they tend to be more
expensive to make). Recent game-to-tv conversions haven't been
spectacular either; at best, they've been bearable TV, the sort of
thing you watch just because there's nothing better on.

Fallout especially lacks draw because it doesn't have any compelling
characters of situations; it's mostly got its setting, and that's it.
That's great if you're making an open-world sandbox game of the sort
Bethesda is famous for, but it lacks the draw of "Master Chief" that
makes people want to watch "Halo".











* years pulled out of my ass because I'm too lazy to go check the wiki
for something so trivial ;-)

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On 4/9/2024 7:43 AM, Spalls Hurgenson wrote:

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:55:17 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:

I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

  Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season >>> coming!  Guess they are confident
https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200

That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual
internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

I'm not really sure who the show really is for. Diehard fans of the
game are going to hate it, just because it will inevitably stray from
the source material. ("How can you watch it? They said the Great War
started in 2243 when everybody knows it started in 2047!")*.
Casual fans aren't going to rush to watch the TV show just because of
the association. And Post-apocalyptics as a genre aren't really that
popular on TV in general (not to mention they tend to be more
expensive to make). Recent game-to-tv conversions haven't been
spectacular either; at best, they've been bearable TV, the sort of
thing you watch just because there's nothing better on.

Fallout especially lacks draw because it doesn't have any compelling characters of situations; it's mostly got its setting, and that's it.
That's great if you're making an open-world sandbox game of the sort
Bethesda is famous for, but it lacks the draw of "Master Chief" that
makes people want to watch "Halo".

* years pulled out of my ass because I'm too lazy to go check the wiki
for something so trivial ;-)

That's still more effort than many TV executives will exert or allow
their writers to exert.
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Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual >internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

Nitpickers will nitpick, but the couple of reviews I seen make it sound
pretty good to me:

https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/fallout-tv-show-review-the-best-fallout-anything-since-fallout-new-vegas/
https://variety.com/2024/tv/reviews/fallout-tv-series-review-prime-video-1235964070/

Based on those reviews, if you're a fan of Fallout, but not someone who
obseses about cannon, it's a series that recreates the feel of the games
as well as a TV series could, and if you've never played any of the games
it's still enjoyable for the unique Fallout sense of style and action.
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On 4/10/2024 9:30 AM, Ross Ridge wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual
internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

Nitpickers will nitpick, but the couple of reviews I seen make it sound pretty good to me:

https://www.pcgamer.com/movies-tv/fallout-tv-show-review-the-best-fallout-anything-since-fallout-new-vegas/
https://variety.com/2024/tv/reviews/fallout-tv-series-review-prime-video-1235964070/

Based on those reviews, if you're a fan of Fallout, but not someone who obseses about cannon, it's a series that recreates the feel of the games
as well as a TV series could, and if you've never played any of the games it's still enjoyable for the unique Fallout sense of style and action.

That *sounds* good. Only problem is those are both once paper now
electronic magazines, which are highly suspect. I'm sure I'll watch at
least the first episode anyway since I've got Prime.

I'll keep my expectations very low, and maybe I'll be surprised.
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Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

That *sounds* good. Only problem is those are both once paper now >electronic magazines, which are highly suspect. I'm sure I'll watch at >least the first episode anyway since I've got Prime.

I'm not following your logic there, but if it helps any both PC Gamer
and Variety still publish print editions.
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Spalls Hurgenson <spallshurgenson@gmail.com> looked up from reading the entrails of the porn spammer to utter "The Augury is good, the signs
say:

On Tue, 9 Apr 2024 06:55:17 -0700, Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com>
wrote:

On 4/8/2024 2:41 PM, rms wrote:

I rather doubt they can pull this off, but lets wait and see.

  Related:  The as-yet unreleased Fallout tv show has a second season
coming!  Guess they are confident
https://kotaku.com/fallout-amazon-tv-show-season-2-confirmed-release-date-1851395200

That's surprising. I haven't heard anything good so far, just the usual >>internet picking apart and complaining about what little has been released.

I'm not really sure who the show really is for. Diehard fans of the
game are going to hate it, just because it will inevitably stray from
the source material. ("How can you watch it? They said the Great War
started in 2243 when everybody knows it started in 2047!")*.
Casual fans aren't going to rush to watch the TV show just because of
the association. And Post-apocalyptics as a genre aren't really that
popular on TV in general (not to mention they tend to be more
expensive to make). Recent game-to-tv conversions haven't been
spectacular either; at best, they've been bearable TV, the sort of
thing you watch just because there's nothing better on.

Expensive yes, but post apocs have been very popular in recent years;
The Walking Dead, and spin offs, Last of Us.

They wouldn't even think about making Fallout into a TV show if they
weren't fairly sure it would have an audience.

Media producers and risk are rarely in the same time zone, which is why
we have so many remakes and reboots and continuations.

Fallout especially lacks draw because it doesn't have any compelling >characters of situations; it's mostly got its setting, and that's it.

Ahh but that gives you the freedom to make any characters you like,
instead of being stuck in the straight-jacket of pre-defined game
characters your actors will never, ever be a match for, leading to
endless whining from the game fans (see the whining when Tom Cruise was
cast as Lestat, or Heath Ledger as The Joker.)

Xocyll
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On 4/10/2024 1:38 PM, Ross Ridge wrote:

Justisaur <justisaur@yahoo.com> wrote:

That *sounds* good. Only problem is those are both once paper now
electronic magazines, which are highly suspect. I'm sure I'll watch at
least the first episode anyway since I've got Prime.

I'm not following your logic there, but if it helps any both PC Gamer
and Variety still publish print editions.

There's been a lot of under the table pay for good reviews to magazines
turned electronic by marketing especially of games.

I watched the first episode last night, pretty good. Though I don't understand why the BoS aren't perusing their internal problem much
harder with punishments all around.

The only other issue I had is was the constant use of the "doom bass"*,
which my wife complained was hurting her ears.

* Doom Bass. I don't know what that sound is actually called, but it's
a low rising and falling bass which was far too overused in the show,
and has been rising in frequency over the last decade or so.
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