• The high price of emergency phone serive.

    From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to comp.mobile.android on Mon Oct 20 15:27:44 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    Intro: Friday night at home I tripped and fell into a confined space, on
    my side, After trying to get up for 2 hours, I started thinking.

    Couldn't call my best friends, they're out of town.
    Couldn't call my neighbors, I don't know any of their numbers by heart.
    (they are in the computer, not in the phone.)
    Aha, I can call the police. I know their number!

    Wait! What am I thinking. I don't have a phone. (And if I could get to
    the phone, I wouldn't need any more help.)

    So the next day, I started looking. There is some company that
    advertises but I could't remember their name I tried mini-phone but had
    to add "for medical emergency" to find what I wanted.

    5 major companies, none of whose name I remembered, despite those
    commercials. (Maybe I've really learned to ignore commercials. I hope
    so.

    Question. They want 29 to 40 dollars a month for the service! I pay
    only $15 for my cell service and that lets me call anywhere, not just
    that one number, I could call the police myself, for example. And my
    phone gives the weather, music, movies, all for $15/month.

    They will say that they give personal attention when you call. but some
    years, most people will never call them.
    Or they will call once. The operator will answer, promptly I hope. I wouldn't want to be put on hold at that price. She will probably know
    who is calling and where I live but she will verify it. She will know
    how to call the police in every city and county in the USA, and she will
    call them and repeat what I told her. This all will take between 5 and
    10 minutes. Then she won't hear from me for another year.
    or some will call 5 or 10 times a year, but if it's up to 10, they
    probably shouldn't be learing alone anyhow.

    I think they may expect you to pay the cellular company separately.

    How come no cheaper competitor has shown his head?.

    BTW I got myself out, as you can probably tell, but it took hours and
    hours, though I slept very nicely for 4 of those hours.
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  • From =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=B6rg_Lorenz?=@hugybear@gmx.net to comp.mobile.android on Mon Oct 20 21:55:58 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 20.10.25 21:27, micky wrote:
    Intro: Friday night at home I tripped and fell into a confined space, on
    my side, After trying to get up for 2 hours, I started thinking.

    Couldn't call my best friends, they're out of town.
    Couldn't call my neighbors, I don't know any of their numbers by heart.
    (they are in the computer, not in the phone.)
    Aha, I can call the police. I know their number!

    Wait! What am I thinking. I don't have a phone. (And if I could get to
    the phone, I wouldn't need any more help.)

    So the next day, I started looking. There is some company that
    advertises but I could't remember their name I tried mini-phone but had
    to add "for medical emergency" to find what I wanted.

    5 major companies, none of whose name I remembered, despite those commercials. (Maybe I've really learned to ignore commercials. I hope
    so.

    Question. They want 29 to 40 dollars a month for the service! I pay
    only $15 for my cell service and that lets me call anywhere, not just
    that one number, I could call the police myself, for example. And my
    phone gives the weather, music, movies, all for $15/month.

    They will say that they give personal attention when you call. but some years, most people will never call them.
    Or they will call once. The operator will answer, promptly I hope. I wouldn't want to be put on hold at that price. She will probably know
    who is calling and where I live but she will verify it. She will know
    how to call the police in every city and county in the USA, and she will
    call them and repeat what I told her. This all will take between 5 and
    10 minutes. Then she won't hear from me for another year.
    or some will call 5 or 10 times a year, but if it's up to 10, they
    probably shouldn't be learing alone anyhow.

    I think they may expect you to pay the cellular company separately.

    How come no cheaper competitor has shown his head?.

    BTW I got myself out, as you can probably tell, but it took hours and
    hours, though I slept very nicely for 4 of those hours.

    What the fuck has this senile story to do with Android?
    --
    "De gustibus non est disputandum."
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Mon Oct 20 22:43:11 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2025-10-20 21:27, micky wrote:
    Intro: Friday night at home I tripped and fell into a confined space, on
    my side, After trying to get up for 2 hours, I started thinking.

    Couldn't call my best friends, they're out of town.
    Couldn't call my neighbors, I don't know any of their numbers by heart.
    (they are in the computer, not in the phone.)
    Aha, I can call the police. I know their number!

    Wait! What am I thinking. I don't have a phone. (And if I could get to
    the phone, I wouldn't need any more help.)

    So the next day, I started looking. There is some company that
    advertises but I could't remember their name I tried mini-phone but had
    to add "for medical emergency" to find what I wanted.

    Here, emergencies is 112. Any emergency. They will figure out whether to
    call the police, the fire brigade, an ambulance... and in any city.



    5 major companies, none of whose name I remembered, despite those commercials. (Maybe I've really learned to ignore commercials. I hope
    so.

    Question. They want 29 to 40 dollars a month for the service! I pay
    only $15 for my cell service and that lets me call anywhere, not just
    that one number, I could call the police myself, for example. And my
    phone gives the weather, music, movies, all for $15/month.

    They will say that they give personal attention when you call. but some years, most people will never call them.
    Or they will call once. The operator will answer, promptly I hope. I wouldn't want to be put on hold at that price. She will probably know
    who is calling and where I live but she will verify it. She will know
    how to call the police in every city and county in the USA, and she will
    call them and repeat what I told her. This all will take between 5 and
    10 minutes. Then she won't hear from me for another year.
    or some will call 5 or 10 times a year, but if it's up to 10, they probably shouldn't be learing alone anyhow.

    I think they may expect you to pay the cellular company separately.

    How come no cheaper competitor has shown his head?.

    You pay for the person on call. I have seen some of the devices. It is a pendant or a bracelet, and can use the land line with a speaker. If the
    person does not respond, they send some one from the 112.

    Maybe a smart watch can be programmed to automatically connect to the smartphone and make a call. I heard about some iPhones making automated
    calls to emergencies.

    Red Cross has such a service or gadget.

    <https://www2.cruzroja.es/web/teleasistencia/teleasistencia-en-casa>

    There is no mention of the cost in the page. But the Google AI finds it:

    The price of Red Cross telecare varies depending on the service, with
    the mobile option for smartphones costing €10/month and the basic home option costing between €15 and €30/month. There are other options, such
    as Security (with key holding), which can cost around €32.50/month, depending on the home telecare fees. For detailed information and to
    request the service, call the toll-free number 900 100 333 (Spain).


    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)



    BTW I got myself out, as you can probably tell, but it took hours and
    hours, though I slept very nicely for 4 of those hours.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to comp.mobile.android on Wed Oct 22 14:49:02 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 20 Oct 2025 22:43:11 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-10-20 21:27, micky wrote:
    Intro: Friday night at home I tripped and fell into a confined space, on
    my side, After trying to get up for 2 hours, I started thinking.

    Couldn't call my best friends, they're out of town.
    Couldn't call my neighbors, I don't know any of their numbers by heart.
    (they are in the computer, not in the phone.)
    Aha, I can call the police. I know their number!

    Wait! What am I thinking. I don't have a phone. (And if I could get to
    the phone, I wouldn't need any more help.)

    So the next day, I started looking. There is some company that
    advertises but I could't remember their name I tried mini-phone but had
    to add "for medical emergency" to find what I wanted.

    Here, emergencies is 112. Any emergency. They will figure out whether to >call the police, the fire brigade, an ambulance... and in any city.

    I did remember the number 911, but later realized I had no phone!



    5 major companies, none of whose name I remembered, despite those
    commercials. (Maybe I've really learned to ignore commercials. I hope
    so.

    Question. They want 29 to 40 dollars a month for the service! I pay
    only $15 for my cell service and that lets me call anywhere, not just
    that one number, I could call the police myself, for example. And my
    phone gives the weather, music, movies, all for $15/month.

    They will say that they give personal attention when you call. but some
    years, most people will never call them.
    Or they will call once. The operator will answer, promptly I hope. I
    wouldn't want to be put on hold at that price. She will probably know
    who is calling and where I live but she will verify it. She will know
    how to call the police in every city and county in the USA, and she will
    call them and repeat what I told her. This all will take between 5 and
    10 minutes. Then she won't hear from me for another year.
    or some will call 5 or 10 times a year, but if it's up to 10, they
    probably shouldn't be learing alone anyhow.

    I think they may expect you to pay the cellular company separately.

    How come no cheaper competitor has shown his head?.

    You pay for the person on call. I have seen some of the devices. It is a

    Yeah but they probably have thousands of subscribers, who only all them
    once a year on average.

    I guess I'd rather die than spend $348/year for full service, so I'm
    probably going to get a smart watch for 60, a one time payment, once I
    find out if I need to have my android phone on at the same time. .

    pendant or a bracelet, and can use the land line with a speaker. If the >person does not respond, they send some one from the 112.

    Maybe a smart watch can be programmed to automatically connect to the >smartphone and make a call. I heard about some iPhones making automated >calls to emergencies.

    Red Cross has such a service or gadget.

    <https://www2.cruzroja.es/web/teleasistencia/teleasistencia-en-casa>

    Google went from letting you copy the text, to copying the URL, to
    putting the translate box right on the original page. It's so easy that
    I end up using it even when I can read Spanish pretty well on my own.

    And apparently I can speak it. Did I tell you that I went back to
    Guatemala for 3 weeks this past Juanuary and I got a couple complemments
    on my Spanish. And one time while checking into a hotel she told me
    there was a quinciniera and there would be a lot of ruido, and even
    thought I hadn't heard the word for 53 years, and it's not a cognate
    with English afaict, I knew the the word.

    Later, when I was returning the car, they took pictures before and after
    and supposedly let the computer find the dents, and she was telling me
    about it and out pops from my my mouth, No daño, no daño. A word I had
    not used, read, or heard in 53 years. Amazing. She went out and
    wiped some dirt off the passergner side door and ageed it was dirt not
    damage (although I had just had the car washed the previous afternoon,
    and had not been any place dirty or dusty, so I am dubious.)

    There is no mention of the cost in the page. But the Google AI finds it:

    The price of Red Cross telecare varies depending on the service, with
    the mobile option for smartphones costing €10/month and the basic home >option costing between €15 and €30/month. There are other options, such
    as Security (with key holding), which can cost around €32.50/month, >depending on the home telecare fees. For detailed information and to
    request the service, call the toll-free number 900 100 333 (Spain).


    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)



    BTW I got myself out, as you can probably tell, but it took hours and
    hours, though I slept very nicely for 4 of those hours.
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  • From Chris@ithinkiam@gmail.com to comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 23 12:05:41 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 20 Oct 2025 22:43:11 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-10-20 21:27, micky wrote:
    Intro: Friday night at home I tripped and fell into a confined space, on >>> my side, After trying to get up for 2 hours, I started thinking.

    Couldn't call my best friends, they're out of town.
    Couldn't call my neighbors, I don't know any of their numbers by heart.
    (they are in the computer, not in the phone.)
    Aha, I can call the police. I know their number!

    Wait! What am I thinking. I don't have a phone. (And if I could get to >>> the phone, I wouldn't need any more help.)

    So the next day, I started looking. There is some company that
    advertises but I could't remember their name I tried mini-phone but had
    to add "for medical emergency" to find what I wanted.

    Here, emergencies is 112. Any emergency. They will figure out whether to
    call the police, the fire brigade, an ambulance... and in any city.

    I did remember the number 911, but later realized I had no phone!

    I'm glad you managed to get yourself out. This should be a strong incentive
    to actually carry a phone all the time.

    How come no cheaper competitor has shown his head?.

    You pay for the person on call. I have seen some of the devices. It is a

    Yeah but they probably have thousands of subscribers, who only all them
    once a year on average.

    Thousands is less then the millions a mobile service provider supports with less. They still have to pay their staff to be available 24/7. I can wholeheartedly recommend these services as they are genuine life-savers. In
    the UK/EU at least. Many local councils run a subsidised service.

    Commercial providers are usually under £20 pm.

    I thoroughly recommend you tell family or close friends of this incident so they know you're at risk of falls.

    I guess I'd rather die than spend $348/year for full service, so I'm
    probably going to get a smart watch for 60, a one time payment, once I
    find out if I need to have my android phone on at the same time. .

    I mean that's your choice, but dying needlessly at home over penny-pinching seems daft to me. It does seem to be the "American Way"â„¢ , however.


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  • From Frank Slootweg@this@ddress.is.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Thu Oct 23 12:31:56 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
    micky <NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com> wrote:
    [...]
    Yeah but they probably have thousands of subscribers, who only all them once a year on average.

    Thousands is less then the millions a mobile service provider supports with less. They still have to pay their staff to be available 24/7. I can wholeheartedly recommend these services as they are genuine life-savers. In the UK/EU at least. Many local councils run a subsidised service.

    Seconded. We actually saved somone's life (severe diabetic hypo)
    because of this service. We were second in the to-call list and luckily
    she was able to push the button before she passed out. If we hadn't
    responded, she would have died for sure,

    Commercial providers are usually under £20 pm.

    I thoroughly recommend you tell family or close friends of this incident so they know you're at risk of falls.

    I guess I'd rather die than spend $348/year for full service, so I'm probably going to get a smart watch for 60, a one time payment, once I
    find out if I need to have my android phone on at the same time. .

    A smart watch is no replacement for such a service, not by a long,
    long shot, full stop (we're not supposed to say 'period' :-)).

    BTW, we just spent a similar amount of money on an AED. Hope it will
    be 'wasted' money.

    I mean that's your choice, but dying needlessly at home over penny-pinching seems daft to me. It does seem to be the "American Way"? , however.

    Indeed. Boggles the mind.
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  • From micky@NONONOmisc07@fmguy.com to comp.mobile.android on Sat Oct 25 16:22:32 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    i CAN'T remember what I said before, but if I said there were wifi-smart watches that could make phone calls, I was wrong. I entered wifi-smart
    watch, and Amazon had several, but probably only meant wifi was used in
    the description . You have to go through another phone, via bluetooth,
    or something like that.

    30 years ago from Radio Shack I bought a fob one wears around the neck
    that radios a box connected to the land line and calls up to 3 people I
    choose, and plays either a stock message or one I choose. It's been in
    the corner of my basment for 30 years. It should still be good.

    I bought it for my mother, who went with the $30 or 40/ months system
    (cheaper then I'm sure), that called me and beeped me the morning she
    had died, But I also planned to use it myself. So here we are.



    In comp.mobile.android, on Mon, 20 Oct 2025 22:43:11 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-10-20 21:27, micky wrote:
    Intro: Friday night at home I tripped and fell into a confined space, on
    my side, After trying to get up for 2 hours, I started thinking.

    Couldn't call my best friends, they're out of town.
    Couldn't call my neighbors, I don't know any of their numbers by heart.
    (they are in the computer, not in the phone.)
    Aha, I can call the police. I know their number!

    Wait! What am I thinking. I don't have a phone. (And if I could get to
    the phone, I wouldn't need any more help.)

    So the next day, I started looking. There is some company that
    advertises but I could't remember their name I tried mini-phone but had
    to add "for medical emergency" to find what I wanted.

    Here, emergencies is 112. Any emergency. They will figure out whether to >call the police, the fire brigade, an ambulance... and in any city.



    5 major companies, none of whose name I remembered, despite those
    commercials. (Maybe I've really learned to ignore commercials. I hope
    so.

    Question. They want 29 to 40 dollars a month for the service! I pay
    only $15 for my cell service and that lets me call anywhere, not just
    that one number, I could call the police myself, for example. And my
    phone gives the weather, music, movies, all for $15/month.

    They will say that they give personal attention when you call. but some
    years, most people will never call them.
    Or they will call once. The operator will answer, promptly I hope. I
    wouldn't want to be put on hold at that price. She will probably know
    who is calling and where I live but she will verify it. She will know
    how to call the police in every city and county in the USA, and she will
    call them and repeat what I told her. This all will take between 5 and
    10 minutes. Then she won't hear from me for another year.
    or some will call 5 or 10 times a year, but if it's up to 10, they
    probably shouldn't be learing alone anyhow.

    I think they may expect you to pay the cellular company separately.

    How come no cheaper competitor has shown his head?.

    You pay for the person on call. I have seen some of the devices. It is a >pendant or a bracelet, and can use the land line with a speaker. If the >person does not respond, they send some one from the 112.

    Maybe a smart watch can be programmed to automatically connect to the >smartphone and make a call. I heard about some iPhones making automated >calls to emergencies.

    Red Cross has such a service or gadget.

    <https://www2.cruzroja.es/web/teleasistencia/teleasistencia-en-casa>

    There is no mention of the cost in the page. But the Google AI finds it:

    The price of Red Cross telecare varies depending on the service, with
    the mobile option for smartphones costing €10/month and the basic home >option costing between €15 and €30/month. There are other options, such
    as Security (with key holding), which can cost around €32.50/month, >depending on the home telecare fees. For detailed information and to
    request the service, call the toll-free number 900 100 333 (Spain).


    Translated with DeepL.com (free version)



    BTW I got myself out, as you can probably tell, but it took hours and
    hours, though I slept very nicely for 4 of those hours.
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  • From Carlos E.R.@robin_listas@es.invalid to comp.mobile.android on Sun Oct 26 01:11:29 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    On 2025-10-25 22:22, micky wrote:
    i CAN'T remember what I said before, but if I said there were wifi-smart watches that could make phone calls, I was wrong. I entered wifi-smart watch, and Amazon had several, but probably only meant wifi was used in
    the description .

    Amazon search is stupid, they do that.

    You have to go through another phone, via bluetooth,
    or something like that.

    30 years ago from Radio Shack I bought a fob one wears around the neck
    that radios a box connected to the land line and calls up to 3 people I choose, and plays either a stock message or one I choose. It's been in
    the corner of my basment for 30 years. It should still be good.

    I bought it for my mother, who went with the $30 or 40/ months system (cheaper then I'm sure), that called me and beeped me the morning she
    had died, But I also planned to use it myself. So here we are.
    That, or something more modern. Maybe allowing you to speak.
    --
    Cheers, Carlos.
    ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;
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  • From Arno Welzel@usenet@arnowelzel.de to comp.mobile.android on Sun Oct 26 14:28:50 2025
    From Newsgroup: comp.mobile.android

    micky, 2025-10-20 21:27:

    [...]
    Question. They want 29 to 40 dollars a month for the service! I pay
    only $15 for my cell service and that lets me call anywhere, not just
    that one number, I could call the police myself, for example. And my
    phone gives the weather, music, movies, all for $15/month.

    The cell service makes sure, that they is always a person available to
    respond to the emergency?

    If you don't need this - why using this service anyway?
    --
    Arno Welzel
    https://arnowelzel.de
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