Sean Hollister says <https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be
relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem
with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of
Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works
properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially
faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will
be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
On 2025-10-29 19:19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Sean Hollister says
<https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be
relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem
with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of
Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works
properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially
faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will
be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its
lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Honestly, there is no debating this. Windows has repeatedly demonstrated that when it comes to handhelds, a person is much better off with
SteamOS. The fact that SteamOS is so good there is what has also caused Linux to be a spectacular platform for gaming.
Sean Hollister says <https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be
relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem
with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of
Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works
properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially
faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will
be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote at 00:50 this Thursday (GMT):
On 2025-10-29 19:19, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
Sean Hollister says
<https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be >>> relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem
with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of >>> Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works
properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially >>> faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product >>> management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will >>> be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its >>> lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Honestly, there is no debating this. Windows has repeatedly demonstrated
that when it comes to handhelds, a person is much better off with
SteamOS. The fact that SteamOS is so good there is what has also caused
Linux to be a spectacular platform for gaming.
Didn't they leave a bunch of Windows services running on their steam
deck knockoff?
On Oct 29, 2025 at 7:19:54 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
Sean Hollister says
<https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be
relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem
with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of
Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works
properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially
faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will
be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its
lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Wow. The above quote from Anshul Rawat sounds like a comedy skit on SNL. Its an "ongoing journey" because it is not possible.
Windows is the least flexible OS in the world. It is not modular, not scalable and not portable. Unix/Linux is all of these. Which is why Unix/Linux
runs on everything from mainframes to watches.
Windows runs on PCs. Period. It will never run well on anything else. One would think that BY NOW, Microsoft would understand this.
As for Linux, people just don't have a choice but to surrender to it eventually. Of course a lot of people will hold onto Windows because of certain applications or because every one of their games runs better.
On 2025-10-30 12:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Oct 29, 2025 at 7:19:54 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid> >> wrote:
Sean Hollister says
<https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be
relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem
with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of
Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works
properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially
faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will >>> be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its >>> lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Wow. The above quote from Anshul Rawat sounds like a comedy skit on SNL. Its
an "ongoing journey" because it is not possible.
Windows is the least flexible OS in the world. It is not modular, not
scalable and not portable. Unix/Linux is all of these. Which is why Unix/Linux
runs on everything from mainframes to watches.
Windows runs on PCs. Period. It will never run well on anything else. One
would think that BY NOW, Microsoft would understand this.
It's probably very sad for a Windows advocate to admit, but there is
nothing inaccurate in what you said. It has always been the case that
when a person migrates from Windows to Linux, even temporarily, their computer feels a lot more lightweight. It's faster, snappier and feels sturdier. I've only seen the inverse once with MacOS being a slug
compared to Windows in the mid-2000s. The G5, for all of its worth, felt sluggish next to a typical Windows PC. It was probably a wonderful chip,
but MacOS did a poor job highlighting it.
As for Linux, people just don't have a choice but to surrender to it
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
Weve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will
be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is the most flexible OS in the world, getting its
lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Lawrence DÿOliveiro wrote:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future
of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product
management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will
be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS
in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across
PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
OMG what insanity. Who does that clown think he's fooling?
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its
lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Oh, but there is one market, the desktop computer, where Linux is but
a niche. According to shit-brained haters, that makes it "inferior"
or a "failure".
The G5 was an OK chip, but it was more power hungry than Intel and
therefore ran even hotter than Intel. The CPU heat sinks in a G4 or
G5 Mac were friggin huge, along with multiple fans. Which is one
reason why Macs switched to Intel in 2005.
There was even a quad CPU G5 with water cooling. Had actual
radiator/water pump/hoses to circulate the water. What could
possibly go wrong there?
Now we have 10, 12 and 16 core Macs that don't need a single fan.
How times have changed.
Don't forget Macs/iPads/iPhones. Running on Unix.
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 12:52:44 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
As for Linux, people just don't have a choice but to surrender to it
eventually. Of course a lot of people will hold onto Windows because of
certain applications or because every one of their games runs better.
That's the biggest problem. I know a photographer who runs Arch but also
has a Windows box. He has used a video editing program for years and has
all the moves down. There may be a Linux alternative as good but it would require relearning. If you're trying to get a job done you don't really
need an extended learning experience.
On Oct 30, 2025 at 12:52:44 PM EDT, "CrudeSausage" <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
On 2025-10-30 12:30, Tyrone wrote:
On Oct 29, 2025 at 7:19:54 PM EDT, "Lawrence D´Oliveiro" <ldo@nz.invalid>
wrote:
Sean Hollister says
<https://www.theverge.com/games/807711/xbox-ally-sleep-fail-bazzite-fix-performance>:
It’s been nearly two weeks since Microsoft, a multi-trillion
dollar company, shipped a $600 handheld “Xbox” that can’t be >>>> relied on to sleep, wake, or hold a charge while asleep in my
tests. Neither Microsoft nor Asus would admit there’s a problem >>>> with the white Xbox Ally or offer a timeline to fix it after
repeated requests by The Verge.
But if you want your white Asus handheld to start working
reliably, you could do what I did: I installed the latest build of >>>> Bazzite, a SteamOS-like, Linux-based operating system that works >>>> properly with gamepad controls, and sleeps like a dream.
...
Did I mention Bazzite runs most of my Windows games *substantially >>>> faster* than Windows?
Rub it in even more, why don’t you:
It’s not just games that feel faster: Steam is a far more
responsive interface without the bloat of Windows lurking under
the hood. It feels like an entirely different handheld. With
Bazzite, I can use it like I use a Nintendo Switch, simply
pressing the power button whenever I want to pause a game, then
picking up exactly where I left off hours or days later.
Microsoft’s response:
Microsoft declined our request for an interview about the future >>>> of the Xbox Ally or a timeline on fixes, but VP of Windows product >>>> management Anshul Rawat provided this statement to The Verge:
...
We’ve identified a small set of issues and initial fixes will >>>> be rolling out soon. Optimizing Windows, the most flexible OS >>>> in the world, for a range of devices and screen sizes across >>>> PCs and the cloud is an ongoing journey.
Really?? Windows is “the most flexible OS in the world”, getting its >>>> lunch eaten by Linux not just in mobile, but in practically every
computing sphere?
Wow. The above quote from Anshul Rawat sounds like a comedy skit on SNL. Its
an "ongoing journey" because it is not possible.
Windows is the least flexible OS in the world. It is not modular, not
scalable and not portable. Unix/Linux is all of these. Which is why Unix/Linux
runs on everything from mainframes to watches.
Windows runs on PCs. Period. It will never run well on anything else. One >>> would think that BY NOW, Microsoft would understand this.
It's probably very sad for a Windows advocate to admit, but there is
Frankly, I don't understand how anyone can still "advocate" for Windows these days. Yes, it definitely has it's uses, but trying to convince people to use it today is absurd. Unlike 30 years ago, there are several viable alternatives.
nothing inaccurate in what you said. It has always been the case that
when a person migrates from Windows to Linux, even temporarily, their
computer feels a lot more lightweight. It's faster, snappier and feels
sturdier. I've only seen the inverse once with MacOS being a slug
compared to Windows in the mid-2000s. The G5, for all of its worth, felt
sluggish next to a typical Windows PC. It was probably a wonderful chip,
but MacOS did a poor job highlighting it.
The G5 was an OK chip, but it was more power hungry than Intel and therefore ran even hotter than Intel. The CPU heat sinks in a G4 or G5 Mac were friggin huge, along with multiple fans. Which is one reason why Macs switched to Intel
in 2005.
There was even a quad CPU G5 with water cooling. Had actual radiator/water pump/hoses to circulate the water. What could possibly go wrong there?
Now we have 10, 12 and 16 core Macs that don't need a single fan. How times have changed.
As for Linux, people just don't have a choice but to surrender to it
Don't forget Macs/iPads/iPhones. Running on Unix. Yes very similar underneath but very different UIs on top. Definitely not Linux.
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 21:44:08 +0000, Tyrone wrote:
The G5 was an OK chip, but it was more power hungry than Intel and
therefore ran even hotter than Intel. The CPU heat sinks in a G4 or
G5 Mac were friggin huge, along with multiple fans. Which is one
reason why Macs switched to Intel in 2005.
There was even a quad CPU G5 with water cooling. Had actual
radiator/water pump/hoses to circulate the water. What could
possibly go wrong there?
I remember a review of Apple’s XServe machines (remember when Apple
sold servers?) running “OS X Server”, where the reviewer compared the performance with Linux running the same software (MySQL) performing
the same operations on the same hardware. Linux basically wiped the
floor with OS X.
I'm one of the few people who doesn't mind relearning interfaces and
consider it to be part of the fun. At the same time, I don't do anything critical on the computer, so wasting an extra hour or two to figure out
how to do the same thing in the new system doesn't matter to me. I can't imagine how annoying it would be to learn how to do the same thing in
GIMP when you're already an expert in Photoshop, or learning how to get
it done in Kdenlive when you're already an expert with Final Cut Pro.
On Thu, 30 Oct 2025 19:38:07 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
I'm one of the few people who doesn't mind relearning interfaces and
consider it to be part of the fun. At the same time, I don't do anything
critical on the computer, so wasting an extra hour or two to figure out
how to do the same thing in the new system doesn't matter to me. I can't
imagine how annoying it would be to learn how to do the same thing in
GIMP when you're already an expert in Photoshop, or learning how to get
it done in Kdenlive when you're already an expert with Final Cut Pro.
I like learning new stuff but not necessarily new tools. For example Notepad++ and Geany are fine editors but as long as I have VS Code and Vim I'm not interested in learning them.
Likewise I'm annoyed every time Microsoft decides to do the same thing differently.
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