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    Hello.

    Ada-compiler makers used to target Red Hat and different Adaists used to contribute to Debian.

    Red Hat and Debian use disputed SystemD C code. Do you avoid it?

    Regards.
    Niocl=C3=A1s Caile=C3=A1n P=C3=B3l de Ghloucester --8323329-1187759712-1710338830=:2983270--
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  • From magardner2010@magardner2010@gmail.com to comp.lang.ada on Wed Mar 13 16:34:14 2024
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    On 13/03/2024 16:07, Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester wrote:
    Hello.

    Ada-compiler makers used to target Red Hat and different Adaists used to contribute to Debian.

    Red Hat and Debian use disputed SystemD C code. Do you avoid it?

    Regards.
    Nioclás Caileán Pól de Ghloucester

    I'm pretty sure that the presence or absence of SystemD doesn't, or at
    least shouldn't, influence how compilers work.

    So, unless one is writing software that directly interacts with the init system, or any of the other components that SystemD provides (and are
    not yet available in other init systems), it shouldn't matter if one is programming on/for Debian, Devuan, Arch, Fedora, Red Hat, or possibly
    even one of the BSDs.
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    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, MAGardner2010 wrote:
    "I'm pretty sure that the presence or absence of SystemD doesn't, [. . .] influence how compilers work."

    Hello,

    I agree.

    "[. . .] it shouldn't matter if one is programming=20
    on/for Debian, Devuan, Arch, Fedora, Red Hat, or possibly even one of the=
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    BSDs."

    GNU/Linux users debate about SystemD allegedly being buggy and insecure.=20 Contributors to GNU/Linux distributions boast that such distributions do=20
    not use SystemD because of these reasons. A new GNU/Linux distribution was=
    =20
    created specifically to avoid SystemD. I do not want to use (Ada-compiler)=
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    software on a buggy or insecure operating system. Do you?

    Regards.
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  • From Keith Thompson@Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com to comp.lang.ada on Wed Mar 13 12:01:42 2024
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    Nioclás Pól Caileán de Ghloucester <Master_Fontaine_is_dishonest@Strand_in_London.Gov.UK> writes:
    On Wed, 13 Mar 2024, MAGardner2010 wrote:
    "I'm pretty sure that the presence or absence of SystemD doesn't, [. . .] influence how compilers work."

    Hello,

    I agree.

    "[. . .] it shouldn't matter if one is programming on/for Debian,
    Devuan, Arch, Fedora, Red Hat, or possibly even one of the BSDs."

    GNU/Linux users debate about SystemD allegedly being buggy and
    insecure. Contributors to GNU/Linux distributions boast that such distributions do not use SystemD because of these reasons. A new
    GNU/Linux distribution was created specifically to avoid SystemD. I do
    not want to use (Ada-compiler) software on a buggy or insecure
    operating system. Do you?

    All operating systems are buggy and insecure. Some are less so than
    others. I have no particular opinion on whether systemd makes a system
    more or less secure. (The system I'm typing this on happens to use
    systemd, a fact that I routinely ignore.)

    If you prefer to avoid systemd, that's fine, but I don't see the
    relevance to Ada.
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    Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith) Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com
    Working, but not speaking, for Medtronic
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  • From Pascal Obry@pascal@obry.net to comp.lang.ada on Wed Mar 13 21:32:05 2024
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    Hello,
    Ada-compiler makers used to target Red Hat and different Adaists used
    to
    contribute to Debian.

    Red Hat and Debian use disputed SystemD C code. Do you avoid it?
    Well as all new stuff... People like bashing. If one think systemd is
    not good he can propose something better. Bashing people/projects seems
    a way of life for some. This has been also the case for pulseaudio and
    remember the new GNOME Shell at the begin... just to mention those as
    examples.
    That a non issue to me...
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