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In message <urouta$b5q8$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:50:02, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
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Why?

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote at 02:59 this Thursday (GMT):

In message <slrnutuqfl.mun.dan@djph.net> at Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:14:29,
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes

On 2024-02-28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

[...]I continue to be surprised when such a standard does arise _and
is implemented widely_ - such as ISA, ATX, PCI, and USB (though that
last has so many connectors that it's lost its early attraction).

There are ... 5 total (6 if you count the short-lived "USB-3 Micro-B >>>Connector"), over the span of 25 years. That's honestly not very bad at >>>all, and a far sight better than earlier options where everything was >>>different. Nowadays, it's all converging back to USB-C, so ...

Type A - the default you get on PCs/laptops. Type B - the almost square
one you get on printers and _some_ scanners. At least three small
non-turn-over-able ones (at least two of which I always feel are
susceptible to easy damage). Type C. That's just the mechanical ones,
before you get into the extra connections, varying speeds, varying power
capabilities..

But at least it's _sort of_ a standard, in that - even though it may
limit you to the lowest speed/power - you can use adapters. Not like the
multiple _incompatible_ variants of say video, and ISA/PCI/whatever.

I have never seen type b.

Have you never had a USB printer (or earlier scanner)? It was very
common.

Here's an A to B cable ("USB printer cable"): <https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEKwGQOStaYLEOJz 6tWjum11FD64d2Rs9kAY63QzK2SpIKlvPD2Pqm_jS9JfhG0ty_GtbxMIQJVKO83QPcbHmAPjm XOK31tBM9gvI1pNwvOHV2q1XOPIl2>
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

as St Augustine says, feeling resentment is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die. Ed Stourton, in RT 2023/1/21-27
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On 2/29/2024 7:25 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

In message <urouta$b5q8$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:50:02, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> writes

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Why?

J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote at 02:59 this Thursday (GMT):

In message <slrnutuqfl.mun.dan@djph.net> at Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:14:29,
Dan Purgert <dan@djph.net> writes

On 2024-02-28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:

[...]I continue to be surprised when such a standard does arise _and >>>>> is implemented widely_ - such as ISA, ATX, PCI, and USB (though that >>>>> last has so many connectors that it's lost its early attraction).

There are ... 5 total (6 if you count the short-lived "USB-3 Micro-B
Connector"), over the span of 25 years.  That's honestly not very bad at >>>> all, and a far sight better than earlier options where everything was
different.  Nowadays, it's all converging back to USB-C, so ...

Type A - the default you get on PCs/laptops. Type B - the almost square
one you get on printers and _some_ scanners. At least three small
non-turn-over-able ones (at least two of which I always feel are
susceptible to easy damage). Type C. That's just the mechanical ones,
before you get into the extra connections, varying speeds, varying power >>> capabilities..

But at least it's _sort of_ a standard, in that - even though it may
limit you to the lowest speed/power - you can use adapters. Not like the >>> multiple _incompatible_ variants of say video, and ISA/PCI/whatever.

I have never seen type b.

Have you never had a USB printer (or earlier scanner)? It was very common.

Here's an A to B cable ("USB printer cable"): <https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEKwGQOStaYLEOJz 6tWjum11FD64d2Rs9kAY63QzK2SpIKlvPD2Pqm_jS9JfhG0ty_GtbxMIQJVKO83QPcbHmAPjm XOK31tBM9gvI1pNwvOHV2q1XOPIl2>

You can find bigger connectors than that.

https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-USB3SAB10BK-SuperSpeed-USB-Cable/dp/B003WV5DN8

Imagine how big the USB4 connector on a printer would be...

Paul
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In message <urq8q4$m82g$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 29 Feb 2024 15:45:08, candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes

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J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote at 12:25 this Thursday (GMT):

In message <urouta$b5q8$1@dont-email.me> at Thu, 29 Feb 2024 03:50:02,
candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid>
writes

["Followup-To:" header set to alt.os.linux.]

Why?

I thought it was proper nettiquete to set it.

I'm all for proper netiquette, but the OP posted to both 'groups, and I couldn't see why (as it's really hardware he was discussing, and the
thread though drifted was still hardware) was any more specific to Linux
than Windows.
[]

I have never seen type b.

Have you never had a USB printer (or earlier scanner)? It was very
common.

Here's an A to B cable ("USB printer cable"): >><https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQEKwGQOStaYLEOJz
6tWjum11FD64d2Rs9kAY63QzK2SpIKlvPD2Pqm_jS9JfhG0ty_GtbxMIQJVKO83QPcbHmAPjm
XOK31tBM9gvI1pNwvOHV2q1XOPIl2>

Nope, I didn't really use em back in the day.

Fairy nuff. (You make me feel old with "back in the day"; when I started
out with printers, parallel port connections were the norm!)
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

"... all your hard work in the hands of twelve people too stupid to get off jury duty." CSI, 200x
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