• Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

    From Daniel47@teranews.com@1:2320/105 to All on Sat Aug 24 19:56:40 2013
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
    From Address: dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au
    Subject: Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

    Bast wrote:
    Daniel47@teranews.com wrote:
    Bast wrote:

    <Snip>
    Sadly you are correct.
    Like everything else nowadays, a well known product name, no longer
    denotes any expected quality, just more cheaply sweatshop-made
    overpriced crap. But that's why after 40 years, I no longer claim to be a >>> "trekkie", as
    the farther I distance myself from those newer movies, the better.
    ...I even managed to hang on through the public humiliation of the
    voyager and enterprise years,....but there ARE limits.

    and there you go, another difference!

    As "Bikie" tends to refer to the "hard core", violent, people who ride
    motorcycles, and "Biker" tends to refer to the clean cut person who
    rides a motorcycle, I tend to think of myself as a "Treker", rather than
    a "Trekkie"!

    IMO, of course!

    Daniel



    Strangely enough I once thought the same thing.
    Then was told by many Trek people that the "trekker," was the total whacko's who actually decorated their homes to look like the bridge of the
    enterprise.

    So from then I told people I was a trekkie.
    Now after the abrams movies,....I publicly deny any knowlege of anything Trek.
    ...But privately still treasure my TOS original issue DVD's, and the VHS
    set.

    Me, myself, I have TOS original issue DVD's, and the TOS Films on VHS
    tape and DVD (or, at least my neighbour has my film DVD's).

    Daniel

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  • From Daniel47@teranews.com@1:2320/105 to All on Tue Sep 24 17:02:00 2013
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
    From Address: dxmm@albury.nospam.net.au
    Subject: Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

    Your Name wrote:
    In article <Ql90u.16$_l4.15@fx31.iad>, <"Daniel47@teranews.com"> wrote:
    wheresourblessing@israels.wars wrote:
    On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 00:22:35 -0700 (PDT), Will Dockery
    <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:

    Oh, look...

    Yet another jewish attack dog, who, instead of addressing the real
    issues, and attempting to offer any counter arguments to justify the
    unjustifiable behavior of jews - because he knows there really are
    none - mindlessly resorts to trotting out the old vapid, simplistic,
    and time-worn habit of labeling anyone who has sense enough to
    criticize jewish crimes, and jewish supremacism, as a "Nazi".

    Yeah, how Stupid, expecting to discuss issues about Star Trek in a news
    group called alt.tv.star-trek.tos!! Everybody with half a brain must
    realise that a news group called alt.tv.star-trek.tos is for the
    discussion of Arab/Islamist matters!! *NOT*

    wheresourblessing@israels.wars, at a rough guess, you are doing your
    ideals no good whatsoever by trying to pedal them here!! You're just
    annoying people, people who, in another place, might actually agree with
    you! "might", but I'm not holding my breath!!

    Daniel
    who's off to check-out what's happening at alt.religion.discussion

    alt.religion.discussion is where they discuss Star Trek ... duh! ;-)

    Exactly why I'm heading there, Your Name. No good Star Trek discussions occurring here!!

    Daniel


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  • From Wiseguy@1:2320/105 to All on Fri Sep 27 01:57:15 2013
    From Newsgroup: alt.tv.star-trek.tos
    From Address: epwise@yahoo.com
    Subject: Re: Star Trek Into Darkness

    "Al Kaiser" <al.kaiser@1:142/926> wrote in news:52338D3B.14350.startrek@capcity2.synchro.net:

    To: Will Dockery
    Will Dockery wrote to All Subject: Re: Star Trek Into Darkness


    The Abrams' films are not "so-called "Star Trek" movies", they
    are "Star Trek" movies. Maybe they don't fit into your blinkered
    view of what is "Star Trek" and what isn't "Star Trek", but they
    are "Star Trek", at least as far as the people who own the rights
    to that term are concerned. Makes you, and others with similar
    opinions, seem very childish! IMHO, of course.

    Not only are the two J.J. Abrams films "Star Trek", I find
    them to be pretty darn good Star Trek, personally

    This is where everyone gets into the big arguements. Are they Trek?
    Yea. Are they good? Yea. Spectacular? Yea. Entertaining? Yea.

    But.. Because the actors we grew up with are not in there, because
    now they are either "age-ed or dead". People don't like it. Because
    they went with an alternative time line, but mixed in Spock from the
    old time line people don't like it and say it's not "real trek". (Did
    they say that when Kirk met Picard in the Nexus)?

    So like everyone has a you-know-what, everyone has their own opinion
    of the current gender of Star Trek movies.

    My opinion, (IMHO), is that I wish that the next movie could get back
    to the original timeline and prove this to be some sort of alternate universe. How to do this? There could be a number of ways, one could
    be that this is part of the Mirror Universe and now they come back.
    It could be the mirror universe before the mirror universe went "bad".
    I'm sure that a slick writer could get it back, (how about JMS doing
    a script, bet he could get it back).


    The mirror universe was already bad during Archer's time.
    (And yes, Your Name, Enterprise is real Star Trek.)

    Once they get it back they could continue the early years and we could
    even see some of the characters that we liked from TOS, Sarek and
    Amada for one who are dead in this time line, and some of those races
    that were show in TOS and how we eithere dealt with them or made them
    our friends.

    As I said IMHO and I'm sure this will start a firestorm.


    Al Kaiser n1api@cox.net <=-

    Write soon Will!

    Al Kaiser - Meriden, CT, 13-Sep-2013 at 18:32.
    Fido : 1:142/926 - Internet : n1api@cox.net

    .!. The universe is simple - it's the explanation that's complex.
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