August Abolins wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

I really enjoyed King's "Under The Dome" tv series. People gradually growing nuts and turning on each other before as they gradually find
ways to discover the secret of the dome they are in.

I enjoyed the first few episodes, maybe the first season, but it REALLY
jumped the shark for me... But we all like different things. :-)

But King's book of the same name was terrible, imho. The back stories
of the characters were far too drawn out and extending dozens of pages before the real story line would pick up.

I read the book and LOVED it!!! That's why I checked out the show, but
just couldn't get into it... Did the show end the same as the book?

When one season of the tv series ended, I picked up the book version to find out what happens next. Boy, was I disappointed.

LOL - I'm sure, since the overall premise was the same, but the story was
NO where near the same when it came to details, like the 'egg' and the
aliens (or whatever they were)...

I never skimmed
through a book before like I did with Under The Dome. For example,
King would dwell on a character's childhood, or a trauma in the past
for far too many pages before the main storyline would pick up.

Again, opinions differ - I personally LOVE the character development he
gives and it's THAT, those personal things that are 'dwelled on' that
make the character resonate with me. I feel like I KNOW people in his
books when I finish them..

I just finished The Institute the other day. Man! Another great one,
IMHO.

I just wanted to know how the dome got created, and why, and the human struggle to solve the mystery and escape. I found it uncompelling to
even care about a certain adult's childhood dreams and fears. Granted, part of the psychology of the human chars plays a role in describing
their approach to working together or not to solve their trapped
dilemma, but I don't need to read 12 pages of somebody's fear of rape and/or a depiction of it to make sense of the dome.

So did you read the ending?

I have read some of King's other works that have also been made into
film. Carrie wasn't too bad, although some situations deviated between film and book.

Most all of them do deviate. It's two different mediums, and there's NO
way they can do ANYTHING on film that rivals the unlimited potential of
one's imagination.

The Green Mile is another that was both good as book and film. Both
of those, book version and film version, were fast-paced, to the point, with very little back-story as filler.

I think Green Mile is the most accurate adaptation of any of his works! As much as I loved 11/22/63 as a mini series, it still wasn't as good as the book
to me. But Green Mile... wow - it's like they took the pages and filmed them. :-)

I'm working on Hostile right now. I'm at the point where the main char
is trapped under her vehicle, broken a lower limb, and trying to reach
for her gun. Pause. Went to bed.

Hostile? Not familiar with it...

In other news: I think actors get paid far too much for the fun of pretending to be someone else.

LOL - you should try local community theatre. I have been in two local productions and LOVED it!!! No pay, it's all volunteer, and LOTS of work
and time, but it's VERY very fun to pretend to be someone else. :-)



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On 6/6/2020 12:06 AM, between "Jimmy Anderson : August Abolins":

I'm working on Hostile right now. I'm at the point where
the main char is trapped under her vehicle, broken a lower
limb, and trying to reach for her gun. Pause. Went to bed.

Hostile? Not familiar with it...

It goes back several messages here when DC first mentioned it, and you replied with saying that you took your teenage sons to see it.

You two spelled the title incorrectly (which I learned later), but in the meantime I watched the WRONG film! LOL

Hostile is a post-apocalyptic zombie-esque themed film.
Hostel is a torture-porn film.



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It goes back several messages here when DC first mentioned it, and you replied
ith saying that you took your teenage sons to see it.

Hostile is a post-apocalyptic zombie-esque themed film.
Hostel is a torture-porn film.

So which one did he take his sons to see?!? :O

Mike


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On 6/6/2020 6:42 PM, between "Mike Powell : AUGUST ABOLINS":

It goes back several messages here when DC first mentioned
it, and you replied ith saying that you took your teenage
sons to see it.

Hostile is a post-apocalyptic zombie-esque themed film.
Hostel is a torture-porn film.

So which one did he take his sons to see?!?: O

Look for MSGID 1:116/17 81f3f17a ..if you can. But to save you time, it sounds like it was the latter. But I couldn't see myself sitting in the same theater with my dad watching that one.

Hostel (2005) seems to have continued with 2 more films in the franchise.

When I turned "legal" age, I remember seeing Texas Chainsaw Massacre, and kinda enjoyed it. Maybe crowd-mentality being with my peers had something to do with it too.

"The Texas Chain Saw Massacre was banned in several countries, and numerous theaters stopped showing the film in response to complaints about its violence."

Growing up on a farm and working on gutting a variety of livestock wasn't "horror" for me, but the suspense in the film was pretty good.



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Hostile is a post-apocalyptic zombie-esque themed film.
Hostel is a torture-porn film.

HAHAHA I really need to install spell check on mystic already .. Sorry about that. Hopefully the Zombie movie was a hit .....

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On 6/8/2020 6:36 PM, between "Doug Cooper : August Abolins":

Hostile is a post-apocalyptic zombie-esque themed film.
Hostel is a torture-porn film.

HAHAHA I really need to install spell check on mystic
already .. Sorry about that. Hopefully the Zombie movie was
a hit .....

As I was watching Hostile (the first one above), I kept wondering when is the porn-like stuff going to kick in (because you mentioned "borderline porn movie"). LOL I was thinking "Doug has a pretty lame idea what porn is".

It turns out that Hostile was not entirely bad at all. The special effects of the "creature" were amazing, although I thought that the CGI octupus beard on Day Jones in Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest from waaay back in 2006 was pretty amazing. There is probably nothing the CGI can't accomplish now.

Regarding "Hostile" (the first one above) you can tell the budget is a bit limited. Not much locale variance. Lessor known actors. The story has a lot of mystery: no complete idea why the apocalyptic scenario occurred. But if you have a basic knowledge of what immunity or asymptomatic means, then it doesn't really matter. The back story is a bit rushed, but it's enough to get us to know the main character and her current situation. In the final scenes I was thinking "they got it all wrong.. the violent scenes leading up to it don't make sense!" But, they actually do. And here's why...(I'll put it in ROT13 so that if you want to deliberately spoil it for yourself, you do it at your own hand):

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So.. if you are in the mood for a horror flick that is not really a horror flick, but is a fine cross between Sixth Sense, The Road, and a mix of drama and romance (no porn!) ..then Hostile is a rather nice "lite" horror film.

Now.. Hostel (the torture porn film..) I'll pass.

I'm having too much fun watching Burn Notice. I'd like to live in that world a little while longer during this pathetic covid19 time.

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On 6/6/2020 12:06 AM, between "Jimmy Anderson : August Abolins":

But King's book of the same name was terrible, imho. The
back stories of the characters were far too drawn out and
extending dozens of pages before the real story line would
pick up.

I read the book and LOVED it!!! That's why I checked out the
show, but just couldn't get into it... Did the show end the
same as the book?

Apparently MANY differences between the show and book. But I did not know that when I reached for the book thinking I would get an advance on the next bunch of tv episodes.

LOL - I'm sure, since the overall premise was the same, but
the story was NO where near the same when it came to
details, like the 'egg' and the aliens (or whatever they
were)...

Yes, the tv version with the egg, the tunnels, people assimilating with the underground life form, etc. Was very interesting.. but when I couldn't find that in the proper places in the book, I got frustrated and skipped most of the book.

I just finished The Institute the other day. Man! Another
great one, IMHO.

It's a short one. Maybe I'll give it a try.

..but I don't need to read 12 pages of somebody's
fear of rape and/or a depiction of it to make sense of the
dome.

So did you read the ending?

I read a bit of it. And, yes.. people's child-hood traumas play a necessary role to appease the aliens.

I guess King wanted to parallel the childhood vulnerabilities of the humans in Under The Dome with the childlike ant-farm experimentation and playfulness of the aliens.

I'm working on Hostile right now. I'm at the point where
the main char is trapped under her vehicle, broken a lower
limb, and trying to reach for her gun. Pause. Went to bed.

Hostile? Not familiar with it...

I posted a bit more about it with a bit of a spoiler in ROT13 in this echo.

In other news: I think actors get paid far too much for the
fun of pretending to be someone else.

LOL - you should try local community theatre. I have been in
two local productions and LOVED it!!! No pay, it's all
volunteer, and LOTS of work and time, but it's VERY very fun
to pretend to be someone else. :-)

Life is not at a point where I can relax and participate in fun things like that. But it has crossed my mind. Even if I just had a bit part with a couple of lines would have been fine.


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As I was watching Hostile (the first one above), I kept wondering when
is the porn-like stuff going to kick in (because you mentioned
"borderline porn movie"). LOL I was thinking "Doug has a pretty lame idea what porn is".

I'm so sorry, but I'm laughing my ass off over what you just said. I can't imagine what you were verbalizing as you were watching that shit.

It turns out that Hostile was not entirely bad at all. The special
effects of the "creature" were amazing, although I thought that the CGI octupus beard on Day Jones in Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest from waaay back in 2006 was pretty amazing. There is probably nothing
the CGI can't accomplish now.

Hmm .. maybe I'll watch it. I'm not a big zombie fan.

Now.. Hostel (the torture porn film..) I'll pass.

Probably a good idea, the movie SAW, paled in comparison to Hostel. They
took the movie too far. I haven't seen any of the others that have been released. If they could top the first, I wouldn't want to. Scarface was an excellent example of shocking people without actually showing someone getting cut up by a chainsaw. Whenever our society turned to demanding more realismn in violance is beyond me. I was content with the likes of Scarface, the Shining, and the original Texas Chain Saw Massacre, level of "shock."

I'm having too much fun watching Burn Notice. I'd like to live in that world a little while longer during this pathetic covid19 time.

Hmmm ... I love spy shows and novels, a better one (but similar) is on the
tip of my fingers but can't recall this AM. I'll try to provide some recommendations. I only buy blu-rays of spy, military, historical, and super hero flicks -- oh and the occasional remake of a retro show like the A-Team, etc... just because I can.

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On 6/9/2020 9:29 AM, between "Doug Cooper : August Abolins":

(because you mentioned "borderline porn movie"). LOL I was
thinking "Doug has a pretty lame idea what porn is".

I'm so sorry, but I'm laughing my ass off over what you just
said. I can't imagine what you were verbalizing as you were
watching that shit.

Laughter was the goal. Glad it worked.

30 minutes in.. no porn. 45 minutes in.. some "relationship" stuff. 55 minutes in.. maybe we're getting somewhere. 75 minutes in.. still nothing that qualifies as porn. 90+.. film is almost over. WTF! ...no porn. LOL

It turns out that Hostile was not entirely bad at all.

Hmm.. maybe I'll watch it. I'm not a big zombie fan.

The film does not scream zombie at the viewer. Hopefully you will enjoy it. The reviews and commentaries all over the internet give consistent praises.

..the movie SAW, paled in comparison to
Hostel. They took the movie too far. I haven't seen any of
the others that have been released. If they could top the
first, I wouldn't want to.

Yes.. I read that there was a Hostel II and a Hostel III

cut up by a chainsaw. Whenever our society turned to
demanding more realismn in violance is beyond me. I was
content with the likes of Scarface, the Shining, and the
original Texas Chain Saw Massacre, level of "shock."

I saw all 3 many many years ago.

I don't think it's about people demanding more shock. I think it is producers, writers and filmmakers testing to see what they can get away with.

I'm pretty happy with the film noire genre. There are elements of treating death like it was existential, sometimes humour thrown in. Gruesome details are not necessary to effectively be shocking or portraying horrors.

Hmmm... I love spy shows and novels, a better one (but
similar) is on the tip of my fingers but can't recall this
AM. I'll try to provide some recommendations.

Looking forward to it.



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August Abolins wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-

I'm working on Hostile right now. I'm at the point where
the main char is trapped under her vehicle, broken a lower
limb, and trying to reach for her gun. Pause. Went to bed.

Hostile? Not familiar with it...

It goes back several messages here when DC first mentioned it, and you replied with saying that you took your teenage sons to see it.

You two spelled the title incorrectly (which I learned later), but in
the meantime I watched the WRONG film! LOL

Hostile is a post-apocalyptic zombie-esque themed film.
Hostel is a torture-porn film.

Ah - I meant Hostel - haven't seen Hostile.




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August Abolins wrote to Mike Powell <=-

So which one did he take his sons to see?!?: O

Look for MSGID 1:116/17 81f3f17a ..if you can. But to save you time,
it sounds like it was the latter. But I couldn't see myself sitting
in the same theater with my dad watching that one.

Yeah - not my best time being a positive dad... Course I was "COOL" for
taking them - LOL

Hostel (2005) seems to have continued with 2 more films in the
franchise.

Nope - never saw the first one again, and don't care for any more. LOL

When I turned "legal" age, I remember seeing Texas Chainsaw Massacre,
and kinda enjoyed it. Maybe crowd-mentality being with my peers had something to do with it too.

"The Texas Chain Saw Massacre was banned in several countries, and numerous theaters stopped showing the film in response to complaints
about its violence."

Growing up on a farm and working on gutting a variety of livestock
wasn't "horror" for me, but the suspense in the film was pretty good.

You know, I know it's 'classic,' but never saw it...



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August Abolins wrote to Doug Cooper <=-

Now.. Hostel (the torture porn film..) I'll pass.

I'm having too much fun watching Burn Notice. I'd like to live in that world a little while longer during this pathetic covid19 time.

YES! LOL




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