The moderator's opinion:

I just learned that Warner Bros. has hired Mel Gibson, whom I like very much, to direct, co-write and executive produce a remake of Sam Peckinpah's 1969 classic, The WIld Bunch.

I won't see it. I have the original and to remake something like that is akin to painting over the Mona Lisa.

A sad day indeed.


Regards,

Roger

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I won't see it. I have the original and to remake something like that is akin >to painting over the Mona Lisa.

That is how I feel about Casablanca and a few other classics, too... you
cannot make them any better so why would you even try?

Of course, then again, the best version of The Maltese Falcon was the
second or third attempt at it. So, I am OK with remaking a movie that
wasn't so good to begin with. :)

Mike

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On Tue Sep-25-2018 19:06, Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote to ROGER NELSON:

I won't see it. I have the original and to remake something like that
is akin to painting over the Mona Lisa.

That is how I feel about Casablanca and a few other classics,
too... you cannot make them any better so why would you even try?

$$$$$$

A few of my fav movies lost millions at the box ofice.

Of course, then again, the best version of The Maltese Falcon was
the second or third attempt at it. So, I am OK with remaking a
movie that wasn't so good to begin with. :)

The 3rd one with "Bogey" is the one I like. That part (the 3rd film) was originally offered to George Raft, who turned it down.


Regards,

Roger
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Of course, then again, the best version of The Maltese Falcon was
the second or third attempt at it. So, I am OK with remaking a
movie that wasn't so good to begin with. :)

The 3rd one with "Bogey" is the one I like. That part (the 3rd film) was originally offered to George Raft, who turned it down.

That is the one. I am not a big fan of Raft. On the other hand, I like
some Bogart movies that he did not even like playing in.

I have read the book and that adaptation does not differ too much from it.
That was John Huston's first big movie, but you'd never know it just by watching it.

Mike

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On Wed Sep-26-2018 18:18, Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote to ROGER NELSON:

Of course, then again, the best version of The Maltese Falcon was
the second or third attempt at it. So, I am OK with remaking a
movie that wasn't so good to begin with. :)

The 3rd one with "Bogey" is the one I like. That part (the 3rd film) was originally offered to George Raft, who turned it down.

That is the one. I am not a big fan of Raft. On the other hand, I
like some Bogart movies that he did not even like playing in.

Too numerous to mention of "Bogey's" films, here are three of my favorites:

Dark Passage
Action in the North Atlantic
To Have and Have Not

I have read the book and that adaptation does not differ too much
from it. That was John Huston's first big movie, but you'd never
know it just by watching it.

I usually find the movie better than the book. Rarely is it the other way around. Case in point is James Lee Burke's Heaven's Prisoners. I really liked
the movie and loathed the book because of Burke's fondness for describing the flora and the fawna, which put me in a state of unconsciousness.


Regards,

Roger
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Dark Passage
Action in the North Atlantic
To Have and Have Not

To Have and Have Not would be on my list, too. I like those other two
also, but they are not my favorites. I would also include:

Casablanca
The Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
We're No Angels (my favorite Christmas movie)
The Petrified Forest
Dead Reckoning

As for books vs. movies, I really like the movie The Big Sleep, but I also
like the book. There were actually two versions of The Big Sleep. The
first was filmed before the war ended and was closer to the book. However,
the studio wanted to get its war films out before the war ended, so it got shelved. In the meantime, Laren Bacall got a part in a movie with a
horrible French actor. It tanked. So, they reshot and replaced several
scenes in The Big Sleep to play on the chemistry she had with Bogart.
Howard Hawks did not want her career tanking with the bad movie!

Sometimes, Turner Classic Movies will play the original version.

The book is my favorite and is written by my favorite author, Raymond
Chandler. I would say I prefer the story in it a little better, but it is difficult to beat Bogey and Bacall on-screen. :)

Mike

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Dark Passage
Action in the North Atlantic
To Have and Have Not

To Have and Have Not would be on my list, too. I like those other
two also, but they are not my favorites. I would also include:

Casablanca
The Maltese Falcon
The Big Sleep
We're No Angels (my favorite Christmas movie)
The Petrified Forest
Dead Reckoning

Good choices all. What was the one where he had to pretend to be a priest? I've forgotten the title.

As for books vs. movies, I really like the movie The Big Sleep, but
I also like the book. There were actually two versions of The Big
Sleep. The first was filmed before the war ended and was closer to
the book. However, the studio wanted to get its war films out
before the war ended, so it got shelved. In the meantime, Laren
Bacall got a part in a movie with a horrible French actor. It
tanked. So, they reshot and replaced several scenes in The Big
Sleep to play on the chemistry she had with Bogart. Howard Hawks
did not want her career tanking with the bad movie!

The one that came the closest was 2001: A Space Odyssey, because the movie and the book were written at the same time (or close to it). Also, I have seen trailers (I don't like that name because they are really previews) that were better than the movies and vice versa.

Another pair of movies coming out next Spring are Captain Marvel (starring a female in the lead role) and Shazam! (with a youung boy playing Billy Batson).
Guess which one I'm not going to watch. (-:

Sometimes, Turner Classic Movies will play the original version.

The book is my favorite and is written by my favorite author,
Raymond Chandler. I would say I prefer the story in it a little
better, but it is difficult to beat Bogey and Bacall on-screen. :)

I read somewhere that Chandler and the screenwriters had a little trouble with the ending. I read a lot of Mickey Spillane books back then. They were more interesting somehow.


Regards,

Roger
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Good choices all. What was the one where he had to pretend to be a priest? I've forgotten the title.

Left Hand of God, or Beat the Devil, maybe?? I have not seen the one where
he pretends to be a priest but I am aware of it. IIRC, it was one of his
last.

Another pair of movies coming out next Spring are Captain Marvel (starring a >female in the lead role) and Shazam! (with a youung boy playing Billy Batson). >Guess which one I'm not going to watch. (-:

Shazam!?? :)

I read somewhere that Chandler and the screenwriters had a little trouble with >the ending. I read a lot of Mickey Spillane books back then. They were more >interesting somehow.

I am not sure they had trouble with the ending (other than it did not at
all match what was in the book) but, at one point, they asked him who was responsible for one of the deaths in the book. He realized that he did
not know! It turned out not to be significant to the overall storyline and apparently remained unsolved when the book was completed. :)

Mike

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On Sat Sep-29-2018 18:59, Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote to ROGER NELSON:

Good choices all. What was the one where he had to pretend to be a priest? I've forgotten the title.

Left Hand of God, or Beat the Devil, maybe?? I have not seen the
one where he pretends to be a priest but I am aware of it. IIRC,
it was one of his last.

The Left Hand of God. I don't think Beat the Devil haar Gene Tierney in it.

Another pair of movies coming out next Spring are Captain Marvel (starring a >female in the lead role) and Shazam! (with a youung boy playing Billy >Batson).

Guess which one I'm not going to watch. (-:

Shazam!?? :)

Want another guess? (-:

I am not sure they had trouble with the ending (other than it did
not at all match what was in the book) but, at one point, they
asked him who was responsible for one of the deaths in the book.
He realized that he did not know! It turned out not to be
significant to the overall storyline and apparently remained
unsolved when the book was completed. :)

Maybe it's some other Sam Spade movie I'm thinking of then. Many of my books dissaopeared around August 2005.


Regards,

Roger
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The Left Hand of God. I don't think Beat the Devil haar Gene Tierney in it.

That'd be the one then. :)

Another pair of movies coming out next Spring are Captain Marvel (starring a >female in the lead role) and Shazam! (with a youung boy playing Billy >Batson).
Guess which one I'm not going to watch. (-:

Shazam!?? :)

Want another guess? (-:

I actually mis-read it the first time and was guessing which one you WOULD watch. LOL, I see my error now. If I had to choose one of them, it would
also be that one.

I am not sure they had trouble with the ending (other than it did
not at all match what was in the book) but, at one point, they
asked him who was responsible for one of the deaths in the book.
He realized that he did not know! It turned out not to be
significant to the overall storyline and apparently remained
unsolved when the book was completed. :)

Maybe it's some other Sam Spade movie I'm thinking of then. Many of my books dissaopeared around August 2005.

The Maltese Falcon was a Sam Spade movie, and a Dashiel Hammett (sp?) book.
The Big Sleep was a Philip Marlowe movie, and a Raymond Chandler book. I think they are easy to confuse because Bogart played both Sam and Phil.
After seeing Bogart play Marlowe, Chandler supposedly thought he was the
best one to have played him (even though he was not crazy about some of the story line changes).

Two of my favorite movies and books. :)

Mike

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On Sun Sep-30-2018 19:31, Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote to ROGER NELSON:


[...]

I actually mis-read it the first time and was guessing which one
you WOULD watch. LOL, I see my error now. If I had to choose one
of them, it would also be that one.

Good for you! I just can't wrap my mind around a female playing a superhero in
that role because it doesn't fit in with the comic book creation. Now we have Supergirl on TV and it looks to be quite popular. She is supposed to be Superman's cousin, but I only watched the pilot episode.

I am not sure they had trouble with the ending (other than it did
not at all match what was in the book) but, at one point, they
asked him who was responsible for one of the deaths in the book.
He realized that he did not know! It turned out not to be
significant to the overall storyline and apparently remained
unsolved when the book was completed. :)

I believe I got my detectives and authors mixed up. Dashiel Hammett created Sam Spade and Raymonf Chandler created Philip Marlowe. It is the latter that they had trouble with on the ending and even called in the late writer Leigh Brackett to help. I think I have that right. (-:

The Maltese Falcon was a Sam Spade movie, and a Dashiel Hammett
(sp?) book. The Big Sleep was a Philip Marlowe movie, and a
Raymond Chandler book. I think they are easy to confuse because
Bogart played both Sam and Phil. After seeing Bogart play Marlowe, Chandler supposedly thought he was the best one to have played him
(even though he was not crazy about some of the story line
changes).

I'm now remembering that the Marlowe stories were mainly in Florida (Miami area, I think).

Two of my favorite movies and books. :)

Mine, too.

As an aside, we have another Captain to go and that's Captain Midnight, even though he wasn't a superhero. (-8

Did you know that Bogart was 44 when he met the 19 year old Bacall? I never thought that would work unless it was the other way around, but this was the exception.


Regards,

Roger
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Good for you! I just can't wrap my mind around a female playing a superhero in
that role because it doesn't fit in with the comic book creation. Now we have >Supergirl on TV and it looks to be quite popular. She is supposed to be >Superman's cousin, but I only watched the pilot episode.

I watched most of the first season and part of the second. It started to
take on a theme that a lot of the other CW super hero shows have... being politically correct... so I lost interest.

Superman actually made an appearance or two, I think.

IIRC, wasn't Supergirl actually a "real" character, and not one they made
up just for that TV show?

I believe I got my detectives and authors mixed up. Dashiel Hammett created >Sam Spade and Raymonf Chandler created Philip Marlowe. It is the latter that >they had trouble with on the ending and even called in the late writer Leigh >Brackett to help. I think I have that right. (-:

I think they did have to call in a second writer to help with the
screenplay. I also am certain they had to call one in for a couple of
other movies (non-Marlowe) that he originally worked on... he did not get
on well with movie folk.

I'm now remembering that the Marlowe stories were mainly in Florida (Miami >area, I think).

Actually, Los Angeles and surrounding areas. One or two strayed as far as
Palm Springs.

Did you know that Bogart was 44 when he met the 19 year old Bacall? I never >thought that would work unless it was the other way around, but this was the >exception.

I knew he was quite a bit older than her. Normally, I would not think it
would work, either, but she was really into him. Some jealous suitor
(maybe Howard Hawks) once said that he thought they fell in love with each other's characters in "To Have and Have Not" and not actually with each
other. If that is true, considering how well it worked, maybe it was not
such a bad thing!

Mike

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Good for you! I just can't wrap my mind around a female playing a superhero in that role because it doesn't fit in with the comic book

creation. Now we have Supergirl on TV and it looks to be quite popular. She is
supposed to be Superman's cousin, but I only watched the pilot episode.

Now DC Comics and Marvel Comics are having a fight over who stole from whom. Those guys ought to get a life.

BTW, I watched "Escape To Sonoita" and didn't expect that truck tank to be holding 3,000 gallons of water. (-:

I lost interest before that.

take on a theme that a lot of the other CW super hero shows have... being politically correct... so I lost interest.

"ARROW" was okay, but I lost interest in it, too. "The Tomorrow People" needed
better writers.

screenplay. I also am certain they had to call one in for a couple of other movies (non-Marlowe) that he originally worked on... he did not get on well with movie folk.

That's right.

I'm now remembering that the Marlowe stories were mainly in Florida

(Miami area, I think).

Actually, Los Angeles and surrounding areas. One or two strayed as far
as Palm Springs.

I think I have my book detectives mixed up again.

I knew he was quite a bit older than her. Normally, I would not think it would work, either, but she was really into him. Some jealous suitor (maybe Howard Hawks) once said that he thought they fell in love with
each
other's characters in "To Have and Have Not" and not actually with each other. If that is true, considering how well it worked, maybe it was not such a bad thing!

Jealousy has been with us a long time.


Regards,

Roger

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BTW, I watched "Escape To Sonoita" and didn't expect that truck tank to be >holding 3,000 gallons of water. (-:

I lost interest before that.

LOL, I also did not expect it the first time I saw it. It is one of my favorite episodes but, the last time I saw it on MeTV, it appeared to me
that they cut part of the story out. Maybe I just imagined some night
scenes between when the gansters leave and when they are eventually found,
but it seemed like part of the story was missing and it was (therefore) not
as good.

"ARROW" was okay, but I lost interest in it, too. "The Tomorrow People" needed
better writers.

Me also. I also liked "The Flash" for the first couple of seasons before
it got too difficult to keep track of who had speedforce and who did not. :)

I never saw "The Tomorrow People."

Mike

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On Thu Oct-04-2018 18:39, Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote to ROGER NELSON:

BTW, I watched "Escape To Sonoita" and didn't expect that truck tank to be >holding 3,000 gallons of water. (-:

LOL, I also did not expect it the first time I saw it. It is one
of my favorite episodes but, the last time I saw it on MeTV, it
appeared to me that they cut part of the story out. Maybe I just
imagined some night scenes between when the gansters leave and when
they are eventually found, but it seemed like part of the story was missing and it was (therefore) not as good.

It might have made a goor "Twilight Zone" episode

I never saw "The Tomorrow People."

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The Tomorrow People is an American science fiction television series developed by Greg Berlanti, Phil Klemmer, and Julie Plec which aired on The CW during the
2013-14 American television season. It was a remake of the original British television series of the same name, created by Roger Price, which ran from 1973-79. The series follows a group of young people who possess psionic powers as the result of human evolution. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
It came on right after "Arrow".


Regards,

Roger
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BTW, I watched "Escape To Sonoita" and didn't expect that truck tank to be >holding 3,000 gallons of water. (-:

LOL, I also did not expect it the first time I saw it. It is one

It might have made a goor "Twilight Zone" episode

Ironically, sometimes I get it mixed up and remember it as a TZ episode. :)

Mike

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On Sat Oct-06-2018 17:56, Mike Powell (1:2320/105) wrote to ROGER NELSON:

BTW, I watched "Escape To Sonoita" and didn't expect that truck
tank to be holding 3,000 gallons of water. (-:

LOL, I also did not expect it the first time I saw it. It is one

It might have made a goor "Twilight Zone" episode

Ironically, sometimes I get it mixed up and remember it as a TZ
episode. :)

It's easy to tell the difference between Rod Serling and Alfred Hitchcock. (-:


Regards,

Roger
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