• Error when posting

    From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to All on Mon Feb 21 13:07:09 2022
    Hello again,

    I was able to set up Jamnntpd as a service, can read the Jam messagebase, and now am trying to post a message using Mozilla Thunderbird.

    Now I am getting an error message saying the posting failed as UTF-8 is not supported.. I triple-checked and Thunderbird is configured to use LATIN-1 and also the config files are using LATIN-1 for that specific area.

    Should I download the utf-8 chrs file and add it to the jamnntpd.xlat config?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/360 to Flavio Bessa on Mon Feb 21 20:59:51 2022
    On 21 Feb 2022 18.07, Flavio Bessa wrote:

    Now I am getting an error message saying the posting failed as UTF-8
    is not supported.. I triple-checked and Thunderbird is configured to
    use LATIN-1 and also the config files are using LATIN-1 for that
    specific area.

    Should I download the utf-8 chrs file and add it to the jamnntpd.xlat
    config?


    All I did was to add these lines:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8


    Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post messages in utf-8. Annoying...

    'Tommi

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  • From Flavio Bessa@4:801/188 to Tommi Koivula on Tue Feb 22 16:57:58 2022
    On 21 Feb 2022, Tommi Koivula said the following...

    All I did was to add these lines:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8


    Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post messages in utf-8. Annoying...

    Thanks, I will give it a try.

    Exactly. That started to happen after the latest TB upgrade for Mac.

    I checked other news clients and it worked fine...

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Flavio Bessa on Wed Feb 23 15:47:35 2022
    Flavio wrote (2022-02-22):

    On 21 Feb 2022, Tommi Koivula said the following...

    All I did was to add these lines:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8


    Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post
    messages in utf-8. Annoying...

    Thanks, I will give it a try.

    That should work. I have the same configuration and no problems with posting UTF-8 messages.

    Exactly. That started to happen after the latest TB upgrade for
    Mac.

    I checked other news clients and it worked fine...

    Looks like this 'feature' has been introduced by Firefox:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ps6gxp/is_text_encoding_options_gone/

    I haven't used the newer Thunderbird versions. Does it always use UTF-8 even if the text in the mail is only 7-bit ASCII?

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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/1 to Oli on Wed Feb 23 18:00:36 2022

    That should work. I have the same configuration and no problems with posting UTF-8 messages.

    FB> Exactly. That started to happen after the latest TB upgrade for
    FB> Mac.

    FB> I checked other news clients and it worked fine...

    Looks like this 'feature' has been introduced by Firefox:

    https://old.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ps6gxp/is_text_encoding_options_gone/

    I haven't used the newer Thunderbird versions. Does it always use UTF-8 even if the text in the mail is only 7-bit ASCII?

    I have the newest TB in this computer. This always posts UTF-8. :(

    However, if the message is plain 7 bit ascii, the CHRS kludge really doesn't matter. ;)

    'Tommi

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  • From Oli@2:280/464.47 to Benny Pedersen on Tue Mar 29 08:39:40 2022
    Benny wrote (2022-03-28):

    All I did was to add these lines:

    read UTF-8 utf-8
    post utf-8 UTF-8

    Which Thunderbird are you using? The newest TB seems to always post
    messages in utf-8. Annoying...

    in fidonet its only iso8859-1

    as LATIN-1, jamnntpd is good, but it does not solve clents not understanding what utf-8 is

    We cannot avoid UTF-8 forever.

    so imho "post utf-8 utf-8" should be "post utf-8 latin-1"

    as i remember it

    that will convert all to utf-8 ready for thunderbird, and give it back to fidonet clients as latin-1, setup latin-1 as default write in
    thunderbird. best of 2 diffrents worlds

    No, it won't work without a proper xlat file as parameter. The only thing you will get is UTF-8 text with the wrong charset set (= garbage).

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