• ipv6 resolvability

    From Floris van Unen@2:280/2050 to All on Wed Nov 13 13:20:52 2024

    Hello everybody!

    with help of https://internet.nl/site/fido.unen.net/3038781/ i found out that none of my nameservers supported ipv6 so i added ipv6 AAAA records for the nameservers and updated the glue records and now it's better.

    So does a recursive DNS query fallback into ipv4 if none of the nameservers for a domain have an ipv6 address? Because people could still find my ipv6 AAAA record on my ipv4-only nameservers...

    Just curious,
    Regards,
    Floris


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Floris van Unen on Wed Nov 13 13:39:53 2024
    Hello Floris,

    On Wednesday November 13 2024 13:20, you wrote to All:

    with help of https://internet.nl/site/fido.unen.net/3038781/ i found
    out that none of my nameservers supported ipv6 so i added ipv6 AAAA records for the nameservers and updated the glue records and now it's better.

    Great!

    So what do http://test-ipv6.com and https://ipv6-test.com say?

    So does a recursive DNS query fallback into ipv4 if none of the nameservers for a domain have an ipv6 address? Because people could
    still find my ipv6 AAAA record on my ipv4-only nameservers...

    Don't confuse the accesability with the content of name servers. Most name servers that are accesible by IPv4 only do respond with an AAAA record when that is present for the requested host.

    But of course we should all prepare to function in an IPv6 only environment, so the use of name servers that are accesable via IPv6 is much preferred.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Gonzalez@4:930/1 to All on Sat Nov 16 22:18:58 2024
    Hello Michiel!

    13 Nov 24 13:39, you wrote to Floris van Unen:

    Its great to see progress on enabling IPv6 for your nameservers, Floris! Adding AAAA records and updating the glue records is a smart move to enhance IPv6 compatibility.

    Regarding your question on IPv6 fallback behavior: If a DNS client (resolver) attempts to resolve a domain over IPv6 and finds that none of the authoritative nameservers for that domain have an IPv6 address, it will indeed fall back to IPv4, provided the client has IPv4 connectivity and the domains nameservers are reachable over IPv4. This fallback ensures accessibility for IPv4-only or mixed IPv4/IPv6 environments but doesnt fully support the vision of an IPv6-only future.

    As MV pointed out, preparing for an IPv6-only environment is crucial. While many current nameservers still offer AAAA records over IPv4, native IPv6 access for your nameservers ensures seamless support as networks continue moving towards IPv6-exclusive setups. Additionally, by having both IPv4 and IPv6 connectivity, you improve redundancy and are better positioned to handle requests from diverse client networks.

    Using sites like http://test-ipv6.com and https://ipv6-test.com is a fantastic way to confirm full IPv6 functionality. These tools not only check your IPv6 reachability but also evaluate DNS resolution to verify whether queries return IPv6 addresses where available. Its worth checking them out post-configuration to verify everything is set up correctly.

    Nice work on pushing IPv6 adoption forward!


    Hello Floris,

    On Wednesday November 13 2024 13:20, you wrote to All:

    with help of https://internet.nl/site/fido.unen.net/3038781/ i
    found out that none of my nameservers supported ipv6 so i added
    ipv6 AAAA records for the nameservers and updated the glue
    records and now it's better.

    Great!

    So what do http://test-ipv6.com and https://ipv6-test.com say?

    So does a recursive DNS query fallback into ipv4 if none of the
    nameservers for a domain have an ipv6 address? Because people
    could still find my ipv6 AAAA record on my ipv4-only
    nameservers...

    Don't confuse the accesability with the content of name servers. Most
    name servers that are accesible by IPv4 only do respond with an AAAA record when that is present for the requested host.

    But of course we should all prepare to function in an IPv6 only environment, so the use of name servers that are accesable via IPv6 is much preferred.


    Cheers, Michiel

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    David

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 17 09:56:50 2024
    Hello David,

    On Saturday November 16 2024 22:18, you wrote to All:

    Its great to see progress on enabling IPv6 for your nameservers,
    Floris! Adding AAAA records and updating the glue records is a smart
    move to enhance IPv6 compatibility.

    Thanks for you elaborate response.

    From your response I presume that you yourself have IPv6 capability. I can not test if your node answers on IPv6, you are not (yet) in the nodelist, so I do not haven your contact data. If you publish your connect info here, I can try to make an IPv6 connection with your system and if hat succeeds, I will enter you in the list of IPv6 nodes as a prospective member of the Fiodonet IPv6 club.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Gonzalez@4:930/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 17 14:23:02 2024

    Hello Michiel!

    17 Nov 24 09:56, you wrote to me:

    Hello David,

    On Saturday November 16 2024 22:18, you wrote to All:

    Its great to see progress on enabling IPv6 for your nameservers,
    Floris! Adding AAAA records and updating the glue records is a
    smart move to enhance IPv6 compatibility.

    Thanks for you elaborate response.

    From your response I presume that you yourself have IPv6 capability. I
    can not test if your node answers on IPv6, you are not (yet) in the nodelist, so I do not haven your contact data. If you publish your
    connect info here, I can try to make an IPv6 connection with your
    system and if hat succeeds, I will enter you in the list of IPv6 nodes
    as a prospective member of the Fiodonet IPv6 club.

    Hallo again Michael, yes, I'm coming back to fido after 30 years and indeed my provider assigned me a half-ass /64, which they consider is more than enough for a home user, so I had to decide what I wanetd to have IPv6 connectivity for my home lab or my house, so the LAB won.

    With regards to your question, yes I'm on bbs.skynetbbs.com which points to 2800:e2:5480:60::20, I think I created the AAAA on my DNS control panel, so if you poll it should let you in, word of caution my BBS is still very stock but that's because I've found it difficult to modify Mystic default theme and menus.

    I'll try to be active on this area because I'm an IPv6 advocate and very pasionate about it, in fact I teach IPv6 classes for "living".

    Regards--

    Cheers, Michiel

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    David


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 17 21:27:14 2024
    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 14:23, you wrote to me:

    With regards to your question, yes I'm on bbs.skynetbbs.com which
    points to 2800:e2:5480:60::20, I think I created the AAAA on my DNS control panel, so if you poll it should let you in, word of caution my
    BBS is still very stock but that's because I've found it difficult to modify Mystic default theme and menus.

    I tried it:

    + 21:25 [1060] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    21:25 [1060] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ? 21:26 [1060] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32
    API error 10060} Connection timed out
    21:26 [1060] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [181.142.97.252]...
    21:26 [1060] connected
    + 21:26 [1060] outgoing session with bbs.skynetbbs.com:24554 [181.142.97.252]
    - 21:26 [1060] OPT CRAM-MD5-d622da334d8cd27747b0356c9cb4cd70
    + 21:26 [1060] Remote requests MD mode
    - 21:26 [1060] SYS SkyNet BBS
    - 21:26 [1060] LOC Medellin, Colombia
    - 21:26 [1060] ZYZ DavidG
    - 21:26 [1060] TIME Sun, 17 Nov 2024 20:26:08 -0500
    - 21:26 [1060] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 21:26 [1060] BUILD 2023/01/15 15:29:47 Windows/32
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 21:3/188@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 3:633/2744.188@fidonet
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 4:930/1@fidonet
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 4:930/0@fidonet
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 4:93/0@fidonet
    - 21:26 [1060] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
    + 21:26 [1060] done (to 4:930/1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    21:26 [1060] session closed, quitting...
    21:26 [4008] the queue is empty, quitting...
    D:\FIDO6\BINKD>

    So no IPv6 connect yet. The first thing to look at would be the firewall. You should create an IPv6 pinhole fo port 24554.

    I'll try to be active on this area because I'm an IPv6 advocate and
    very pasionate about it, in fact I teach IPv6 classes for "living".

    Great!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 17 21:57:48 2024
    Hi Michiel,

    On 2024-11-17 21:27:14, you wrote to David Gonzalez:

    With regards to your question, yes I'm on bbs.skynetbbs.com which
    points to 2800:e2:5480:60::20,
    ^^
    MvdV> 21:25 [1060] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ^

    I think you forgot a '0' !?

    MvdV> ? 21:26 [1060] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32
    MvdV> API error 10060} Connection timed out

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 17 22:07:58 2024
    Hello David,

    Sunday November 17 2024 21:27, I wrote to you:

    So no IPv6 connect yet. The first thing to look at would be the
    firewall. You should create an IPv6 pinhole fo port 24554.

    I see you goy it fixed already:

    + 22:06 [4472] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    22:06 [4472] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    22:06 [4472] connected
    + 22:06 [4472] outgoing session with bbs.skynetbbs.com:24554
    [2800:e2:5480:60::2]
    - 22:06 [4472] OPT CRAM-MD5-566231661606aa412c74fee39a672079
    + 22:06 [4472] Remote requests MD mode
    - 22:06 [4472] SYS SkyNet BBS
    - 22:06 [4472] LOC Medellin, Colombia
    - 22:06 [4472] ZYZ DavidG
    - 22:06 [4472] TIME Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:06:38 -0500
    - 22:06 [4472] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 22:06 [4472] BUILD 2023/01/15 15:29:47 Windows/32
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 21:3/188@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 3:633/2744.188@fidonet
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 4:930/1@fidonet
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 4:930/0@fidonet

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Wilfred van Velzen on Sun Nov 17 22:17:57 2024
    Hello Wilfred,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 21:57, you wrote to me:

    On 2024-11-17 21:27:14, you wrote to David Gonzalez:

    With regards to your question, yes I'm on bbs.skynetbbs.com
    which points to 2800:e2:5480:60::20,
    ^^
    MvdV>> 21:25 [1060] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ^

    I think you forgot a '0' !?

    No, the "2" is correct, see next message.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 17 22:20:11 2024
    Hello David,

    Sunday November 17 2024 22:07, I wrote to you:

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Normally the update for the list as published in Fidonews is hatched at Sunday 22:00 my local time (21:00 UTC). so you just missed that.

    But I rehatched it and if all goes well, you will be in the list of tomorrows Fidonews.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 17 22:25:12 2024
    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 14:23, you wrote to me:

    Hallo again Michael, yes, I'm coming back to fido after 30 years and indeed my provider assigned me a half-ass /64, which they consider is
    more than enough for a home user, so I had to decide what I wanetd to
    have IPv6 connectivity for my home lab or my house, so the LAB won.

    Just a /64 is very scroogy. Best Opeating Practice has it that customers should at least get a /56. many give a /48.

    Are you sure you can't get more than just a /64? If not, for me that would be a reason to take my bussines elsewhere...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Gonzalez@4:930/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 17 21:07:04 2024

    Hello Michiel!

    17 Nov 24 21:27, you wrote to me:

    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 14:23, you wrote to me:

    With regards to your question, yes I'm on bbs.skynetbbs.com which
    points to 2800:e2:5480:60::20, I think I created the AAAA on my
    DNS control panel, so if you poll it should let you in, word of
    caution my BBS is still very stock but that's because I've found
    it difficult to modify Mystic default theme and menus.

    I tried it:

    + 21:25 [1060] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    21:25 [1060] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ? 21:26 [1060] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32
    API error 10060} Connection timed out
    21:26 [1060] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [181.142.97.252]...
    21:26 [1060] connected
    + 21:26 [1060] outgoing session with bbs.skynetbbs.com:24554 [181.142.97.252] - 21:26 [1060] OPT CRAM-MD5-d622da334d8cd27747b0356c9cb4cd70 + 21:26 [1060] Remote
    requests MD mode - 21:26 [1060] SYS SkyNet BBS - 21:26 [1060] LOC Medellin, Colombia - 21:26 [1060] ZYZ DavidG - 21:26 [1060] TIME Sun,
    17 Nov 2024 20:26:08 -0500 - 21:26 [1060] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 21:26 [1060] BUILD 2023/01/15 15:29:47 Windows/32
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 21:3/188@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 3:633/2744.188@fidonet
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 4:930/1@fidonet
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 4:930/0@fidonet
    + 21:26 [1060] addr: 4:93/0@fidonet
    - 21:26 [1060] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
    + 21:26 [1060] done (to 4:930/1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    21:26 [1060] session closed, quitting...
    21:26 [4008] the queue is empty, quitting...
    D:\FIDO6\BINKD>

    So no IPv6 connect yet. The first thing to look at would be the
    firewall. You should create an IPv6 pinhole fo port 24554.

    That was my mistake and you're completely right, I said ::20, it's still using the old IP, I'll change it and you can test a bit later and it'll indeed responde.

    I'll try to be active on this area because I'm an IPv6 advocate
    and very pasionate about it, in fact I teach IPv6 classes for
    "living".

    Great!


    Cheers, Michiel

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    David


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  • From David Gonzalez@4:930/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 17 22:52:40 2024

    Hello Michiel!

    17 Nov 24 22:07, you wrote to me:

    Hello David,

    Sunday November 17 2024 21:27, I wrote to you:

    So no IPv6 connect yet. The first thing to look at would be the
    firewall. You should create an IPv6 pinhole fo port 24554.

    I see you goy it fixed already:

    + 22:06 [4472] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    22:06 [4472] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    22:06 [4472] connected
    + 22:06 [4472] outgoing session with bbs.skynetbbs.com:24554
    [2800:e2:5480:60::2]
    - 22:06 [4472] OPT CRAM-MD5-566231661606aa412c74fee39a672079
    + 22:06 [4472] Remote requests MD mode
    - 22:06 [4472] SYS SkyNet BBS
    - 22:06 [4472] LOC Medellin, Colombia
    - 22:06 [4472] ZYZ DavidG
    - 22:06 [4472] TIME Sun, 17 Nov 2024 21:06:38 -0500
    - 22:06 [4472] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 22:06 [4472] BUILD 2023/01/15 15:29:47 Windows/32
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 21:3/188@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 3:633/2744.188@fidonet
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 4:930/1@fidonet
    + 22:06 [4472] addr: 4:930/0@fidonet

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Yup, but I just changed the IPv6 to match my (local) ipv4, so it's now ::20, give it a go and it should also reply.

    I also had to disable SLAAC from My Mikrotik edge so did not get EUI-64.

    Thanks

    Cheers, Michiel

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    David


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  • From David Gonzalez@4:930/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 17 22:54:31 2024

    Hello Michiel!

    17 Nov 24 22:20, you wrote to me:

    Hello David,

    Sunday November 17 2024 22:07, I wrote to you:

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Normally the update for the list as published in Fidonews is hatched
    at Sunday 22:00 my local time (21:00 UTC). so you just missed that.

    But I rehatched it and if all goes well, you will be in the list of tomorrows Fidonews.

    Appreciate it Michiel, feels good being back and also being back on IPv6.

    Cheers, Michiel

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    David


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  • From David Gonzalez@4:930/1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Nov 17 22:55:21 2024

    Hello Michiel!

    17 Nov 24 22:25, you wrote to me:

    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 14:23, you wrote to me:

    Hallo again Michael, yes, I'm coming back to fido after 30 years
    and indeed my provider assigned me a half-ass /64, which they
    consider is more than enough for a home user, so I had to decide
    what I wanetd to have IPv6 connectivity for my home lab or my
    house, so the LAB won.

    Just a /64 is very scroogy. Best Opeating Practice has it that
    customers should at least get a /56. many give a /48.

    Scroogy?, huh.... oh God, don't get me started on this a-holes, provides *guess* billions of IPs on the same network block are better than good around here, /48 would be --according to the-- for enterprise customers so I will try to have them assign a /48 because I also tried getting my *roaming* IPv6 /48 from LACNIC, my RIR but USD$1,200/yr for hobby is kinda dealbreaker

    Are you sure you can't get more than just a /64? If not, for me that would be a reason to take my bussines elsewhere...

    Yup, trust me, been there, done that, but that unfortunately is the only one that you can get to do bridge mode on the CPE for IPv4, we're way behind down here in South America (except Brazil) when it comes to v6, as I said I throw hate everytime I can to those grumpy old-men with their brains stuck on IPv4 and the /30 and v4 VLSM practices migrated to IPv6.

    The otehr issue I do not want to rn n into is using Tunnelbroker, it's slow because of it's 6to4 tunnel nature, but it's an alternative, I do like HE, but being a VPN and its inherent drawbacks drives me away.


    Cheers, Michiel

    Right back at ya

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Mon Nov 18 11:13:21 2024
    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 22:52, you wrote to me:

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Yup, but I just changed the IPv6 to match my (local) ipv4, so it's now ::20, give it a go and it should also reply.

    Hmmm... That didn't work...

    + 11:12 [4756] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    11:12 [4756] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10060} Conne
    ction timed out
    11:12 [4756] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [181.142.97.252]...
    ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Conne
    ction refused
    11:12 [4756] trying 2800:e2:5480:60::20 [2800:e2:5480:60::20]...
    ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Conne
    ction refused
    11:12 [5792] the queue is empty, quitting...

    1) You forgot to update the AAAA record for bbs.skynetbbs.com.

    2) It looks like you also forgot to restart Mystic as it is not answereing at all on any IP.

    I also had to disable SLAAC from My Mikrotik edge so did not get
    EUI-64.

    OK.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Gonzalez@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Nov 18 16:10:53 2024
    Hola Michiel!, saludo cordial

    18 Nov 24 11:13, tu escribi(ste) a ti:

    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 22:52, you wrote to me:

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Yup, but I just changed the IPv6 to match my (local) ipv4, so
    it's now
    ::20, give it a go and it should also reply.

    Hmmm... That didn't work...

    + 11:12 [4756] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    11:12 [4756] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
    10060} Conne ction timed out 11:12 [4756] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [181.142.97.252]... ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet
    failed: {W32 API error 10061} Conne ction refused 11:12 [4756] trying 2800:e2:5480:60::20 [2800:e2:5480:60::20]... ? 11:12 [4756] connection
    to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Conne ction
    refused 11:12 [5792] the queue is empty, quitting...

    1) You forgot to update the AAAA record for bbs.skynetbbs.com.

    I did indeed, that plus I use a shitty provider namecheap, but it's updated now.

    2) It looks like you also forgot to restart Mystic as it is not
    answereing at all on any IP.

    I also had to disable SLAAC from My Mikrotik edge so did not get
    EUI-64.

    OK.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Gonzalez@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Nov 18 16:13:16 2024
    Hola Michiel!, saludo cordial

    18 Nov 24 11:13, tu escribi(ste) a ti:

    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 22:52, you wrote to me:

    So congratulations and welcome to the Fidonet IPv6 club!

    Telia Denmark

    Network: AS3308 - Telia Danmark
    Router: Copenhagen PowCph
    Command: ping 2800:e2:5480:60::20 rapid

    ping router 1010000 2800:e2:5480:60::20 rapid
    PING 2800:e2:5480:60::20 56 data bytes
    !!!!!
    ---- 2800:e2:5480:60::20 PING Statistics ----
    5 packets transmitted, 5 packets received, 0.00% packet loss
    round-trip min = 158ms, avg = 160ms, max = 163ms, stddev = 1.65ms


    Yup, but I just changed the IPv6 to match my (local) ipv4, so
    it's now
    ::20, give it a go and it should also reply.

    Hmmm... That didn't work...

    + 11:12 [4756] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    11:12 [4756] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::2]...
    ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error
    10060} Conne ction timed out 11:12 [4756] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [181.142.97.252]... ? 11:12 [4756] connection to 4:930/1@fidonet
    failed: {W32 API error 10061} Conne ction refused 11:12 [4756] trying 2800:e2:5480:60::20 [2800:e2:5480:60::20]... ? 11:12 [4756] connection
    to 4:930/1@fidonet failed: {W32 API error 10061} Conne ction
    refused 11:12 [5792] the queue is empty, quitting...


    1) You forgot to update the AAAA record for bbs.skynetbbs.com.

    2) It looks like you also forgot to restart Mystic as it is not
    answereing at all on any IP.

    I also had to disable SLAAC from My Mikrotik edge so did not get
    EUI-64.

    OK.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Mon Nov 18 18:12:41 2024
    Hello David,

    On Monday November 18 2024 16:10, you wrote to me:

    1) You forgot to update the AAAA record for bbs.skynetbbs.com.

    I did indeed, that plus I use a shitty provider namecheap, but it's updated now.

    You got it fixed indeed:

    + 18:09 [4124] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    18:09 [4124] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [2800:e2:5480:60::20]...
    18:09 [4124] connected
    + 18:09 [4124] outgoing session with bbs.skynetbbs.com:24554
    [2800:e2:5480:60::20]
    - 18:09 [4124] OPT CRAM-MD5-61e9a525e53b71a5e5b137db6d9a7763
    + 18:09 [4124] Remote requests MD mode
    - 18:09 [4124] SYS SkyNet BBS
    - 18:09 [4124] LOC Medellin, Colombia
    - 18:09 [4124] ZYZ DavidG
    - 18:09 [4124] TIME Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:09:06 -0500
    - 18:09 [4124] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 18:09 [4124] BUILD 2023/01/15 15:29:47 Windows/32
    + 18:09 [4124] addr: 21:3/188@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 18:09 [4124] addr: 3:633/2744.188@fidonet
    + 18:09 [4124] addr: 4:930/1@fidonet
    + 18:09 [4124] addr: 4:930/0@fidonet
    + 18:09 [4124] addr: 4:93/0@fidonet
    - 18:09 [4124] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
    + 18:09 [4124] done (to 4:930/1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    18:09 [4124] session closed, quitting...
    18:09 [4992] the queue is empty, quitting...
    D:\FIDO6\BINKD>

    And for completeness I also tested your IPv4:

    + 18:08 [1236] call to 4:930/1@fidonet
    18:08 [1236] trying bbs.skynetbbs.com [181.142.97.252]...
    18:08 [1236] connected
    + 18:08 [1236] outgoing session with bbs.skynetbbs.com:24554 [181.142.97.252]
    - 18:08 [1236] OPT CRAM-MD5-39c9548164f002ba1edc734b3a24e065
    + 18:08 [1236] Remote requests MD mode
    - 18:08 [1236] SYS SkyNet BBS
    - 18:08 [1236] LOC Medellin, Colombia
    - 18:08 [1236] ZYZ DavidG
    - 18:08 [1236] TIME Mon, 18 Nov 2024 17:08:28 -0500
    - 18:08 [1236] VER Mystic/1.12A48 binkp/1.0
    - 18:08 [1236] BUILD 2023/01/15 15:29:47 Windows/32
    + 18:08 [1236] addr: 21:3/188@fsxnet (n/a or busy)
    + 18:08 [1236] addr: 3:633/2744.188@fidonet
    + 18:08 [1236] addr: 4:930/1@fidonet
    + 18:08 [1236] addr: 4:930/0@fidonet
    + 18:08 [1236] addr: 4:93/0@fidonet
    - 18:08 [1236] QSIZE 0 files 0 bytes
    + 18:08 [1236] done (to 4:930/1@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
    18:08 [1236] session closed, quitting...
    18:08 [2920] the queue is empty, quitting...
    D:\FIDO6\BINKD>



    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 19 11:37:59 2024
    Hello David,

    On Sunday November 17 2024 22:55, you wrote to me:

    Are you sure you can't get more than just a /64? If not, for me
    that would be a reason to take my bussines elsewhere...

    Yup, trust me, been there, done that, but that unfortunately is the
    only one that you can get to do bridge mode on the CPE for IPv4,

    What type of fysical connection do you have? DSL over 600 Ohm 2 wire? DOCSIS over coax? Opical over glasfiber?

    I am in the fortunate position to have a choice between the three. Although DSL is no longer interesting compared to coax or fiberglass.

    we're way behind down here in South America (except Brazil) when it
    comes to v6, as I said I throw hate everytime I can to those grumpy old-men with their brains stuck on IPv4 and the /30 and v4 VLSM
    practices migrated to IPv6.

    There are only two IPv6 capable Fidonet nodes in Z4. The first is your ZC elect Fernando Toledo. You are the second.

    The otehr issue I do not want to rn n into is using Tunnelbroker, it's slow because of it's 6to4 tunnel nature, but it's an alternative, I do like HE, but being a VPN and its inherent drawbacks drives me away.

    He.net has been providing a fantatic service to the IPv6 community. I have had an he.net tunnel for many years. When I finally got native IPv6 in 2016 I did not need them any more. But I am still gratefull for here fantastic service. They even managed to get the "sage T-shirt" delivered exactly on the day of my 70th birthday!


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Gonzalez@2:280/464 to Michiel van der Vlist on Tue Nov 19 07:12:14 2024
    Hola Michiel!, saludo cordial

    19 Nov 24 11:37, tu escribi(ste) a ti:

    Hello David,


    What type of fysical connection do you have? DSL over 600 Ohm 2 wire? DOCSIS over coax? Opical over glasfiber?

    Providers here are weird, Mine is called Tigo and it's DOCSIS HFC but they do alow IPv4 bridge mode, Claro (big bad monster), DOCSIS too and also offer IOPv6 but meh, etb fiber but no IPv6, so here in my country we're way behind and those big companies give balls about customers and their needs. I'm even afraid of asking becaus eit frusrates and angers me even more.

    I am in the fortunate position to have a choice between the three. Although DSL is no longer interesting compared to coax or fiberglass.

    I am let's say only coax with two providers becaus eI'm on an apartment complex and tehes a layer of let's say *corruption* where a single (big) provider pays the administration of teh building to keep other providers out.

    we're way behind down here in South America (except Brazil) when
    it comes to v6, as I said I throw hate everytime I can to those
    grumpy old-men with their brains stuck on IPv4 and the /30 and v4
    VLSM practices migrated to IPv6.

    There are only two IPv6 capable Fidonet nodes in Z4. The first is your
    ZC elect Fernando Toledo. You are the second.

    Yup, I link to Fernando for my newly (restored) node and I was not foing to be IPv4 only node, so I gave it a go and here we are. Like I said, I love IPv4 and that's one of the topics that I'm pasionate about teaching and researching.

    The otehr issue I do not want to rn n into is using Tunnelbroker,
    it's slow because of it's 6to4 tunnel nature, but it's an
    alternative, I do like HE, but being a VPN and its inherent
    drawbacks drives me away.

    He.net has been providing a fantatic service to the IPv6 community. I
    have had an he.net tunnel for many years. When I finally got native
    IPv6 in 2016 I did not need them any more. But I am still gratefull
    for here fantastic service. They even managed to get the "sage
    T-shirt" delivered exactly on the day of my 70th birthday!

    Lovely, I got one of those myself but I lost it, that was my first real approach to v6, I fidled with OpenWRT, dd-wrty all of that until I landed my first Mikrotik and then I just fell inlove with those devices and what tehy could do.

    Cheers, Michiel

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