• 6to4 question

    From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to All on Sun May 1 10:31:46 2022
    Hi All!

    Noticed a strange thing. My 6to4 tunnel (he.net) has recently started to work poorly in some directions. This is expressed in the fact that a connection to a remote host is established, a few bytes are transmitted and then the session stops, after that the connection is terminated by timeout. Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun May 1 11:43:14 2022
    Hello, Stas!

    Sunday May 01 2022 10:31, you wrote to All:

    Noticed a strange thing. My 6to4 tunnel (he.net) has recently started
    to work poorly in some directions. This is expressed in the fact that
    a connection to a remote host is established, a few bytes are
    transmitted and then the session stops, after that the connection is terminated by timeout. Changing provider solved the problem. What
    could be the cause?

    Russia? Russian internet is broken.

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun May 1 11:56:43 2022
    Hello Stas,

    On Sunday May 01 2022 10:31, you wrote to All:

    Noticed a strange thing. My 6to4 tunnel (he.net) has recently started
    to work poorly in some directions. This is expressed in the fact that
    a connection to a remote host is established, a few bytes are
    transmitted and then the session stops, after that the connection is terminated by timeout. Changing provider solved the problem. What
    could be the cause?

    It seems to work now, so obviously the problem is with your previous provider.

    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun May 1 13:20:49 2022
    Hi Stas,

    On 2022-05-01 10:31:46, you wrote to All:

    Noticed a strange thing. My 6to4 tunnel (he.net) has recently started
    to work poorly in some directions. This is expressed in the fact that
    a connection to a remote host is established, a few bytes are
    transmitted and then the session stops, after that the connection is terminated by timeout. Changing provider solved the problem. What
    could be the cause?

    MTU issues? ... That's what caused my problems.

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun May 1 21:22:54 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    Sunday May 01 2022 11:56, you wrote to me:

    MvdV> It seems to work now, so obviously the problem is with your previous
    MvdV> provider.

    That's exactly what I think. However, I have some ability to poke his nose into a problem if I know what's wrong.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Stas Mishchenkov on Sun May 1 22:27:32 2022
    Hello, Stas!

    Sunday May 01 2022 21:22, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    That's exactly what I think. However, I have some ability to poke his
    nose into a problem if I know what's wrong.

    Russian internet is broken in 3 ways:

    1. Every provider has to block a lot of websites via home made solutions with bugs/problems/etc.
    2. "TSPU"s (blocking devices) are installed all over the Russia and blocking a lot of websites with many bugs in configuration/settings.
    3. Roskomnadzor/MVD/FSB are "asking" transit opeertors to do additional blocking.

    All this mess leads to many network problems which are different in different provider's networks.

    Russia is soon gonna be worse than China.

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue May 3 15:44:44 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Stas!

    01 May 2022 10:31:46, you wrote to All:

    Noticed a strange thing. My 6to4 tunnel (he.net) has recently started
    to work poorly in some directions. This is expressed in the fact that
    a connection to a remote host is established, a few bytes are
    transmitted and then the session stops, after that the connection is terminated by timeout.

    I have similar issue since I've migrated my server. Even more, my hosts are unreachable from some parts of the world.

    Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?

    Tried two different ISPs (yes, I have some basic redundance even at home) without any noticeable effect.


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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Stas Mishchenkov on Tue May 3 13:20:32 2022
    Hello Stas!

    01 May 2022 10:31, Stas Mishchenkov wrote to All:

    terminated by timeout. Changing provider solved the problem. What
    could be the cause?

    mtu set incorrect at he.net is one if the speculation ones ?

    Have a nice night.

    +1


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Dmitry Protasoff on Tue May 3 13:25:02 2022
    Hello Dmitry!

    01 May 2022 22:27, Dmitry Protasoff wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    Russia is soon gonna be worse than China.

    so lets move to china ? :=)


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexey Vissarionov on Tue May 3 15:10:18 2022
    Hello Alexey,

    On Tuesday May 03 2022 15:44, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

    I have similar issue since I've migrated my server. Even more, my
    hosts are unreachable from some parts of the world.

    I have been unable to make an IPv6 connect with your system since you moved away from Hetzner. Ipv4 is no problem.

    So why did you move away from Hetzner? Were you forced?

    Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?

    Tried two different ISPs (yes, I have some basic redundance even at
    home) without any noticeable effect.

    Too bad... :(


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Benny Pedersen on Tue May 3 17:01:30 2022
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    Hello, Benny!

    Tuesday May 03 2022 13:25, you wrote to me:

    Russia is soon gonna be worse than China.

    so lets move to china ? :=)

    Only when they'll have some success with nationwide ipv6 adoption :)

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dmitry Protasoff on Tue May 3 16:26:00 2022
    Hello Dmitry,

    On Tuesday May 03 2022 17:01, you wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    so lets move to china ? :=)

    Only when they'll have some success with nationwide ipv6 adoption :)

    Actually, China has great plans. They aim for IPv6 only by 2030 and new networks won't be allowed to use IPv4 by the end of 2023.

    https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/26/china_single_stack_ipv6_notice/

    Presently China is #42 on the country list with 21.7% IPv6 adoption.

    https://www.akamai.com/visualizations/state-of-the-internet-report/ipv6-adoption-visualiz ation


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed May 4 08:27:10 2022

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    Hi Wilfred!

    Sunday May 01 2022 13:20, you wrote to me:

    MTU issues? ... That's what caused my problems.

    Quite possible. I didn't think about it.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Dmitry Protasoff on Wed May 4 08:29:14 2022

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    Hi Dmitry!

    Sunday May 01 2022 22:27, you wrote to me:

    That's exactly what I think. However, I have some ability to poke his
    nose into a problem if I know what's wrong.

    Russian internet is broken in 3 ways:

    Interesting, when asked about a cat pissing outside the toilet, will you also answer that the Russians and Putin are to blame? ;)

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed May 4 08:38:32 2022

    *** Answering a msg posted in area _Carbon.Mail (Carbon.Mail).

    Hi Alexey!

    Tuesday May 03 2022 15:44, you wrote to me:

    I have similar issue since I've migrated my server. Even more, my
    hosts are unreachable from some parts of the world.

    At the same time, IPv4 works well. It was even a pity to say goodbye to this provider after so many years.

    Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?

    Tried two different ISPs (yes, I have some basic redundance even at home) without any noticeable effect.

    Switching provider helped me radically. I can see that there is a very serious organization opposite my house, which is also connected to this provider, and there were exactly the same problems that ISP could not solve.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed May 4 09:47:18 2022
    *** Answering a msg posted in area carbonArea (Carbon Area).

    Hello, Stas!

    Wednesday May 04 2022 08:29, you wrote to me:

    Russian internet is broken in 3 ways:

    Interesting, when asked about a cat pissing outside the toilet, will
    you also answer that the Russians and Putin are to blame? ;)

    Please ask about cat next time, because most of the questions related to broken Internet in Russia are related to our censorship.
    If you ok with our internet censorship - you should be ok with suffering from consequences.

    He.net was blocked couple of times on TSPU level in some regions of Russia and there is no way to get any official list of blocked resources (from nearest TSPU).

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@2:280/464 to Stas Mishchenkov on Wed May 4 08:46:32 2022
    Hi Stas,

    On 2022-05-04 08:27:10, you wrote to me:

    MTU issues? ... That's what caused my problems.

    Quite possible. I didn't think about it.

    The sollution for me is switching to a newer DSL modem. I could do that for free with my current provider. Or switch to an other provider, which will also provide a newer modem. I choose the latter.

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Wed May 4 11:14:44 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    03 May 2022 15:10:18, you wrote to me:

    I have similar issue since I've migrated my server. Even more,
    my hosts are unreachable from some parts of the world.
    MvdV> I have been unable to make an IPv6 connect with your system
    MvdV> since you moved away from Hetzner. Ipv4 is no problem.

    IPv4 is native, IPv6 is tunneled.

    MvdV> So why did you move away from Hetzner? Were you forced?

    They become unable to charge my card since some unwise people in their government managed to join the so called "sanctions" against Russia (well, it would be really interesting to see the effect when fuqing humanists in our government will introduce at least some real counter-sanctions).

    Obviously enough, Hetzner just lost money. And the only side effect was some inconvenience for me, as I had to move the server instead of drinking beer.

    Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?
    Tried two different ISPs (yes, I have some basic redundance even
    at home) without any noticeable effect.
    MvdV> Too bad... :(

    The most annoying thing is it fails only for some networks, and I still can't find the reason.


    --
    Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed May 4 13:28:16 2022
    Hello Alexey,

    On Wednesday May 04 2022 11:14, you wrote to me:


    MvdV>> So why did you move away from Hetzner? Were you forced?

    They become unable to charge my card since some unwise people in their government managed to join the so called "sanctions"

    My first guess was that it was something like that. I am not going to comment on the political aspects as that would be off-topic here.

    Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?

    Tried two different ISPs (yes, I have some basic redundance even
    at home) without any noticeable effect.

    MvdV>> Too bad... :(

    The most annoying thing is it fails only for some networks, and I
    still can't find the reason.

    The problems seem to be related to he.net. There are other nodes in R50 who's he.net tunnel is not working. Dmitry Smirnov of 5010/252 is using a tunnel from TUNNL-BROKER-NET-1. How about trying that one?

    Or get your ISP to support native IPv6...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Alexey Vissarionov on Wed May 4 23:03:02 2022
    Hello, Alexey!

    Wednesday May 04 2022 11:14, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    They become unable to charge my card since some unwise people in their government managed to join the so called "sanctions" against Russia
    (well, it would be really interesting to see the effect when fuqing humanists in our government will introduce at least some real counter-sanctions).

    Obviously enough, Hetzner just lost money. And the only side effect
    was some inconvenience for me, as I had to move the server instead of drinking beer.

    It was a very good month, btw, because I was able to get couple of servers at Hetzner very cheap because some Russians decided to not switch banks and keep their Visa/MC. Now they work as VPN servers to allow Russians to get access to free Internet (with ipv6)..

    Best regards,
    dp.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Benny Pedersen on Thu May 5 08:57:40 2022
    Hi Benny!

    Tuesday May 03 2022 13:20, you wrote to me:

    terminated by timeout. Changing provider solved the problem. What
    could be the cause?

    mtu set incorrect at he.net is one if the speculation ones ?

    Sorry for my poor English. I didn't quite understand what you mean.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu May 5 09:01:38 2022
    Hi Michiel!

    Tuesday May 03 2022 15:10, you wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

    I have similar issue since I've migrated my server. Even more, my
    hosts are unreachable from some parts of the world.

    MvdV> I have been unable to make an IPv6 connect with your system since you
    MvdV> moved away from Hetzner. Ipv4 is no problem.

    Really. Me too.

    [fido@brorabbit binkp]$ cat ~/logs/callip.log
    2022-05-05 09:04:30.889 callip.pl v.0.9.4.8. -c /home/fido/etc/callip.conf -b -f 2:5020/545
    2022-05-05 09:04:31.072 Nodelist for Thursday, May 5, 2022 -- Day number 125 parsed, 1066 IP-nodes processed (0.054 sec)
    2022-05-05 09:04:46.192 Calling 2:5020/545
    2022-05-05 09:04:46.192 fido.gremlin.ru:24554
    2022-05-05 09:04:46.192 2001:470:70:538:f1d0:2:5020:545 - Error: Connection timed out
    2022-05-05 09:04:46.192 188.32.10.232 - Ok.
    2022-05-05 09:04:46.244 Nodelist for Thursday, May 5, 2022 -- Day number 125 parsed, 1066 IP-nodes processed (0.051 sec)
    2022-05-05 09:04:46.302 Sending file 627368fe.pkt 776 1651730686 0... 2022-05-05 09:04:46.327 file 627368fe.pkt (776 bytes) sent to 2:460/5858.


    [fido@brorabbit binkp]$ traceroute 2001:470:70:538:f1d0:2:5020:545
    traceroute to 2001:470:70:538:f1d0:2:5020:545 (2001:470:70:538:f1d0:2:5020:545), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
    1 2001:470:dcd0::10 (2001:470:dcd0::10) 0.235 ms 0.177 ms 0.204 ms
    2 brorabbit-1.tunnel.tserv24.sto1.ipv6.he.net (2001:470:27:171::1) 91.479 ms 79.254 ms 97.143 ms
    3 e0-22.core2.sto1.he.net (2001:470:0:11e::1) 81.186 ms 93.761 ms 81.414 ms
    4 * * *
    5 100ge4-1.core1.tll1.he.net (2001:470:0:478::2) 64.769 ms 75.584 ms *
    6 100ge5-1.core1.rix1.he.net (2001:470:0:47d::2) 90.724 ms 59.057 ms 60.086 ms
    7 100ge5-1.core1.vno1.he.net (2001:470:0:47c::2) 66.482 ms 66.256 ms 66.296 ms
    8 * * *
    9 tserv1.waw1.he.net (2001:470:0:222::2) 82.806 ms 81.885 ms 84.925 ms
    10 2001:470:70:538:900d:f001:dead:f001 (2001:470:70:538:900d:f001:dead:f001)

    -----------------------------^^^^

    134.063 ms 136.330 ms 136.351 ms
    11 * * *
    12 * * *

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Alexey Vissarionov on Thu May 5 09:31:48 2022
    Hi Alexey!

    Wednesday May 04 2022 11:14, you wrote to Michiel van der Vlist:

    The most annoying thing is it fails only for some networks, and I
    still can't find the reason.

    Check out the tracerout from me. It's like it's hinting.

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
    * Origin: Lame Users Breeding. Simferopol, Crimea. (2:460/5858)
  • From Alexey Vissarionov@2:5020/545 to Michiel van der Vlist on Thu May 5 12:28:28 2022
    Good ${greeting_time}, Michiel!

    04 May 2022 13:28:16, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>>> So why did you move away from Hetzner? Were you forced?
    They become unable to charge my card since some unwise people
    in their government managed to join the so called "sanctions"
    MvdV> My first guess was that it was something like that.

    It was exactly that.

    MvdV> I am not going to comment on the political aspects as that
    MvdV> would be off-topic here.

    Ditto.

    Changing provider solved the problem. What could be the cause?
    Tried two different ISPs (yes, I have some basic redundance even
    at home) without any noticeable effect.
    MvdV>>> Too bad... :(
    The most annoying thing is it fails only for some networks, and I
    still can't find the reason.
    MvdV> The problems seem to be related to he.net. There are other nodes
    MvdV> in R50 who's he.net tunnel is not working. Dmitry Smirnov of
    MvdV> 5010/252 is using a tunnel from TUNNL-BROKER-NET-1. How about
    MvdV> trying that one?

    I'd try that.

    MvdV> Or get your ISP to support native IPv6...

    Alas, I'm no longer working for the ISP where I get one of the links...


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  • From Benny Pedersen@2:230/0 to Dmitry Protasoff on Sun May 8 20:06:34 2022
    Hello Dmitry!

    03 May 2022 17:01, Dmitry Protasoff wrote to Benny Pedersen:

    Tuesday May 03 2022 13:25, you wrote to me:
    Russia is soon gonna be worse than China.
    so lets move to china ? :=)

    Only when they'll have some success with nationwide ipv6 adoption :)

    9 may 2022 in russia will maybe a day to remember that t-90m did not succes in ukraine ?


    Regards Benny

    ... too late to die young :)

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  • From Stas Mishchenkov@2:460/5858 to Benny Pedersen on Mon May 9 09:13:06 2022
    Hi Benny!

    Sunday May 08 2022 20:06, you wrote to Dmitry Protasoff:

    Only when they'll have some success with nationwide ipv6 adoption :)

    9 may 2022 in russia will maybe a day to remember that t-90m did not succes in ukraine ?

    Have you ever thrown yeast into a toilet cesspool?

    Have a nice night.
    Stas Mishchenkov.

    --- Have You daily sexual life? Hide it proper from Your wife! ;)
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  • From Dmitry Protasoff@2:5001/100.1 to Benny Pedersen on Mon May 9 10:52:54 2022
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    Hello, Benny!

    Sunday May 08 2022 20:06, you wrote to me:

    Only when they'll have some success with nationwide ipv6 adoption
    :)

    9 may 2022 in russia will maybe a day to remember that t-90m did not succes in ukraine ?

    Zombies do not remember anything.

    Best regards,
    dp.

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