Hello, August Abolins.
On 11/6/20 6:52 PM you wrote:

Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking
that they have used personally and found it to be ideal for
solving complex problems?

One or more of the "For Dummies" titles?

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On 06/11/2020 4:17 a.m., Charles Pierson : August Abolins wrote:

Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking..

One or more of the "For Dummies" titles?

The networking chapters in those are very scant and dumbed down
(obviously!) :)

I am looking for someting comprehensive, and therefore a book that
JUST deals with networking that OS.

Would one of those MSCE (whatever) exam books on networking provide
real answers - or too much theory?


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On 06 Nov 20 18:52:47, August Abolins said the following to All:

Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking
that they have used personally and found it to be ideal for solving
complex problems?

Google.

Nick

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On 06/11/2020 6:32 p.m., Nick Andre : August Abolins wrote:

Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking

Google.

If it was my network, I would certainly dig around the 'net a little
while for solutions.

This is for a fellow new to networking (lucky fellow picked in lieu
of hiring an expensive networking guy) at this covid moment.

I do not know if there is a particular problem afoot or if there is
an expansion/adjustment in mind. All I know is that the PCs are Win7.

A book format would also serve as a way to study offline and not be
forced to be glued to a PC - I guess.


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Hello, Nick Andre.
On 11/7/20 4:39 PM you wrote:

Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about
networking and some other things the "hard way". Sometimes its
best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a network
on your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make
it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.
Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and
screw it so your challenge is now to fix it.

That's pretty much been my philosophy with computers and software in general. I haven't done much with networking though.

You can study all the books you want but the best learning is
always hands-on.

It depends. I've had people that you walk through it, some I've had to find documentation for.

I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging
me and assuming that I cannot do something. I *will* fix *any*
tech problem. If I cannot, I will find someone who can. That
simple...

I mainly challenge myself. I'll get it to work. I might end up frying something or a fatal system crash down the line, but I will figure out something to make it work at least once.

Needless to say, the wife has banned me from such tests on the home pc.


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On 07 Nov 20 19:18:02, August Abolins said the following to Nick Andre:

Can anyone recommend a comprehensive book on Windows 7 Networking

Google.

If it was my network, I would certainly dig around the 'net a little
while for solutions.

Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about networking and some other things the "hard way".

Sometimes its best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a network on your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.

Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and screw it so your challenge is now to fix it.

You can study all the books you want but the best learning is always hands-on.

I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging me and assuming that I cannot do something. I *will* fix *any* tech problem. If I cannot, I will find someone who can. That simple...

Nick

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On 07 Nov 2020, Nick Andre said the following...

Not to get all grandstandish.... but I learnt everything about
networking and some other things the "hard way".

Sometimes its best just to buy a few computers second-hand and build a networkon your kitchen table and make it work. Make it share files, make it have different subnets, make it implement an access policy.

I'm the same way. Had to do all the book work for class, but I really
learned doing everything in the hands-on labs in school and then going home and trying it all again there either via packet tracer or some cheap stuff I got on ebay or kijiji.

Then break the goddamn thing. Purposely trash the settings and screw it
so your challenge is now to fix it.

Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.

I have a way about myself that is motivated by people challenging me and assuming that I cannot do something.

I'm picturing John Locke in Lost yelling at people: "Don't tell me what I can't do!"

Jay

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On 09 Nov 20 18:22:15, Jay Harris said the following to Nick Andre:

Yup, some of the most frustrating and rewarding moments is when everything "should" work but doesn't & then you figure out why it didn't.

I was very, very lucky to work with what can only be described as
total assholes over the years. Not sure what it was about them but aside
from their personalities they were spot-on correct with troubleshooting 101. Start simple and work up from there. And if you cannot fix it, you either figure it out until its fixed, or you find someone else that can... there is no such thing as a no-fix scenario.

Thats what they never really teach in tech classes as far as I can tell. They teach all the theory and components and thats fine but they do not teach you how to deal with being thrown into the lion's den. Stuff like inheriting a total freaking mess from the previous IT manager or the foundations of a network not designed correctly or all the software licensing poorly accounted for... or my favourite, major investments in process-systems and equipment obsolete with no software patches available and its not financially feasable to rip everything out.

Now they also tend not to teach how to use those types of problems to your advantage when it comes to HR or negotiating a raise or whatever to make
fixing things actually rewarding career-wise... taking negatives and making them into positives in the end.

Nick

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