Hello Janis,

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

I see that they are created using a script by:

"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

I ask because BinkD chokes on the latest BINKD.TXT file that I grabbed from filegate earlier. Seems there are many, many, many entries such as:

Node 1:11/331 ftn.emergencyscene.net
-
Node 1:11/340 binkp.echo-base-bbs.com
-
Node 1:120/0 ftn.rocasa.com;95.154.237.85 -
Node 1:120/229 xblade.mooo.com -
Node 1:120/301 bbs.legionhq.net:60178 - Node 1:120/302 mojo.synchro.net ;bbs.mojosworld.net -

BinkD here chokes on the lines containing just a "-". I cleaned up the first 1000 or lines. But if I run BinkD I get:

03:40 [21818] /home/bbs/sbbs/binkd/binkd.nl: line 1027: error in configuration files
03:40 [21818] -: unknown keyword

Jeff

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Hi Jeff,

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

I see that they are created using a script by:

"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

Hmm... where do you see that in the list? There is a problem, I agree, but I don't see nodelister.pl in the list.

I ask because BinkD chokes on the latest BINKD.TXT file that I grabbed from filegate earlier. Seems there are many, many, many entries such as:

Node 1:11/331 ftn.emergencyscene.net
-
Node 1:11/340 binkp.echo-base-bbs.com
-
Node 1:120/0 ftn.rocasa.com;95.154.237.85 -
Node 1:120/229 xblade.mooo.com -
Node 1:120/301 bbs.legionhq.net:60178 - Node 1:120/302 mojo.synchro.net ;bbs.mojosworld.net -

BinkD here chokes on the lines containing just a "-". I cleaned up the first 1000 or lines. But if I run BinkD I get:

03:40 [21818] /home/bbs/sbbs/binkd/binkd.nl: line 1027: error in configuration
files
03:40 [21818] -: unknown keyword

I see CRLF at the end of the domain field in a lot of the entries, and yes, that would cause problems.

Jame Clay creates the list but he hadn't been able to make a new list in a long
time because he was moving to more permanent location. I believe that is resolved now. I'll contact him and ask him to get out a new version.

Take care,
Janis

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On 2017 Jan 06 04:02:18, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

IIRC, RJ Clay has been doing them...

I see that they are created using a script by:

"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

that's an old copy of the script... jame had to recover some stuff and apparently hasn't recovered the v1.3 of the script... i run it here and create my own mybinkd.txt files...

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Hello Janis,

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?
I see that they are created using a script by:
"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

Hmm... where do you see that in the list? There is a problem, I agree, but I don't see nodelister.pl in the list.

I grabbed that from the header of the current BINKD.TXT file

I ask because BinkD chokes on the latest BINKD.TXT file that I grabbed from >> filegate earlier. Seems there are many, many, many entries such as:
Node 1:11/331 ftn.emergencyscene.net
-
Node 1:11/340 binkp.echo-base-bbs.com
-
Node 1:120/0 ftn.rocasa.com;95.154.237.85 -
Node 1:120/229 xblade.mooo.com -
Node 1:120/301 bbs.legionhq.net:60178 - Node 1:120/302 mojo.synchro.net >> ;bbs.mojosworld.net -
BinkD here chokes on the lines containing just a "-". I cleaned up the first >> 1000 or lines. But if I run BinkD I get:
03:40 [21818] /home/bbs/sbbs/binkd/binkd.nl: line 1027: error in configuratio >> files
03:40 [21818] -: unknown keyword

I see CRLF at the end of the domain field in a lot of the entries, and yes, that would cause problems.

That's what I saw also. Taking them out fixes the problem as far as BinkD seems
to be concerned.

Jame Clay creates the list but he hadn't been able to make a new list in a lon
time because he was moving to more permanent location. I believe that is resolved now. I'll contact him and ask him to get out a new version.

Thanks. In the BINKD.TXT file I didn't see (Unless I missed it) him listed as the person generating the list.

I did a little searching for the nodelister.pl file to see if I could acquire it and generate my own BINKD.TXT nodelist. <g>


Jeff



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Hi Jeff,

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)? >>> I see that they are created using a script by:
"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

Hmm... where do you see that in the list? There is a problem, I agree, but I >> don't see nodelister.pl in the list.

I grabbed that from the header of the current BINKD.TXT file

Ok..

I ask because BinkD chokes on the latest BINKD.TXT file that I grabbed from >>> filegate earlier. Seems there are many, many, many entries such as:
Node 1:11/331 ftn.emergencyscene.net
-
Node 1:11/340 binkp.echo-base-bbs.com
-
Node 1:120/0 ftn.rocasa.com;95.154.237.85 -
Node 1:120/229 xblade.mooo.com -
Node 1:120/301 bbs.legionhq.net:60178 - Node 1:120/302 mojo.synchro.net >>> ;bbs.mojosworld.net -
BinkD here chokes on the lines containing just a "-". I cleaned up the first >>> 1000 or lines. But if I run BinkD I get:
03:40 [21818] /home/bbs/sbbs/binkd/binkd.nl: line 1027: error in configurati >>> files
03:40 [21818] -: unknown keyword

I see CRLF at the end of the domain field in a lot of the entries, and yes, >> that would cause problems.

That's what I saw also. Taking them out fixes the problem as far as BinkD seem
to be concerned.

Jame Clay creates the list but he hadn't been able to make a new list in a lo >> time because he was moving to more permanent location. I believe that is
resolved now. I'll contact him and ask him to get out a new version.

Thanks. In the BINKD.TXT file I didn't see (Unless I missed it) him listed as the person generating the list.

It is in filegate.zxx, where file coords are listed, Jame's entry is under I-Nodelist FDN's file echo, I-BINKD.

I did a little searching for the nodelister.pl file to see if I could acquire it and generate my own BINKD.TXT nodelist. <g>

Hopefully, I'll hear back from Jame about this so we don't all have to do that :)

Take care,
Janis

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Hello Mark,

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

IIRC, RJ Clay has been doing them...

I see that they are created using a script by:
"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

that's an old copy of the script... jame had to recover some stuff and
apparently hasn't recovered the v1.3 of the script... i run it here and create
my own mybinkd.txt files...

Do you by chance know of a source for the most recent version of that script??
<g> I wouldn't mind having the ability to make my own should the need arise.


Jeff

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Hello Mark,

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

IIRC, RJ Clay has been doing them...

I see that they are created using a script by:
"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

that's an old copy of the script... jame had to recover some stuff and >>apparently hasn't recovered the v1.3 of the script... i run it here and creat >> my own mybinkd.txt files...

Do you by chance know of a source for the most recent version of that script?? <g> I wouldn't mind having the ability to make my own should
the need arise.

Umm... Nevermind. <g> I found the v1.3 of the script and have already generated
the nodelist files for both Fidonet and Fsxnet without any errors.


Jeff




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Umm... Nevermind. <g> I found the v1.3 of the script and have already generated the nodelist files for both Fidonet and Fsxnet without any errors.

Would/could you plz send me a copy of v1.3? (Email in sig or BinkP crash to 393/68 will work)


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Hello Ben,

Would/could you plz send me a copy of v1.3? (Email in sig or BinkP crash to 393/68 will work)

On it's way via email. Enjoy.



Jeff




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On 2017 Jan 06 17:30:56, you wrote to me:

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

IIRC, RJ Clay has been doing them...

I see that they are created using a script by: "Created by
binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002 # Copyright (c)
2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

that's an old copy of the script... jame had to recover some stuff and
apparently hasn't recovered the v1.3 of the script... i run it here and
create my own mybinkd.txt files...

Do you by chance know of a source for the most recent version of that script?? <g> I wouldn't mind having the ability to make my own should
the need arise.

1.3 is the most recent... jerry isn't in fidonet any more and this is all we have... the script /should/ already be in the I-BINKD area since at least 2007... perhaps it should be hatched with the replace verb so that all connected systems will get it and those that didn't get it the first time around will get it this time around??

if you are in more than one FTN network, you'll run it for each other FTN nodelist with its own output file names... then include them like the others...

eg:
perl binkd_nodelistupdater.pl %ftn/nodelist.%DOY %ftn/fidonet.bink %ftn/fidonet.except
perl binkd_nodelistupdater.pl %ftn/agoranet.%DOY %ftn/agoranet.bink %ftn/agoranet.except
perl binkd_nodelistupdater.pl %ftn/dbnet.%DOY %ftn/dbnet.bink %ftn/dbnet.except perl binkd_nodelistupdater.pl %ftn/gatornet.%DOY %ftn/gatornet.bink %ftn/gatornet.except


in binkd.conf

#defnode * -nr
include ftn/fidonet.bink
include ftn/agoranet.bink
include ftn/dbnet.bink
include ftn/gatornet.bink
include myconnections.cfg


http://www.wpusa.dynip.com/files2/FDIST/I-BINKD/BNLPL13.ZIP

BNLPL13.ZIP 4812 24-Apr-2007 =================================================
binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.3
binkd nodelist tool converts St. Louis
Nodelist to Binkd.txt format. Perl Script
14-Apr-2007

Copyright (c) 2007 by Jerry Schwartz and Write
by Night

see also PHP port GPL license



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Hey, I grabbed that from you today, thanks :)

BNLPL13.ZIP 4812 24-Apr-2007 =================================================
binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.3
binkd nodelist tool converts St. Louis
Nodelist to Binkd.txt format. Perl Script
14-Apr-2007
Copyright (c) 2007 by Jerry Schwartz and Write
by Night
see also PHP port GPL license

Take care,
Janis

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On 2017 Jan 07 22:12:16, you wrote to me:

Hey, I grabbed that from you today, thanks :)

:)

FWIW: i believe there should also be something similar for the other weird nodelist formats... I-ARGUS is the other one, right? IIRC, jerry did scripts for both but i've never used the argus one and don't have a copy of it handy...

BNLPL13.ZIP 4812 24-Apr-2007
=================================================
binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.3
binkd nodelist tool converts St. Louis
Nodelist to Binkd.txt format. Perl Script
14-Apr-2007
Copyright (c) 2007 by Jerry Schwartz and Write
by Night
see also PHP port GPL license

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Hi Mark,

Hey, I grabbed that from you today, thanks :)

:)

I was glad you mentioned it, and to find it again... IIRC, I lost a good number
of files around then, and that was one of them...

FWIW: i believe there should also be something similar for the other weird nodelist formats... I-ARGUS is the other one, right? IIRC, jerry did scripts
for both but i've never used the argus one and don't have a copy of it handy..

I'm not sure, but I think Scott Little, Z3C, uses his own script... in any event, he still generates the files each week in the I-ARGUS area.

Take care,
Janis

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On 2017 Jan 08 11:10:46, you wrote to me:

Hey, I grabbed that from you today, thanks :)

:)

I was glad you mentioned it, and to find it again... IIRC, I lost a
good number of files around then, and that was one of them...

i'm sure others were happy, too... i'd say to rehatch it again with the REPLACE
so that it gets distributed to everyone carrying the I-BINK FDN... then there are more copies out and about in case i loose mine ;)

you should also get a copy off to jame! i'm sure he'll be appreciative :lol:

FWIW: i believe there should also be something similar for the other
weird nodelist formats... I-ARGUS is the other one, right? IIRC,
jerry did scripts for both but i've never used the argus one and
don't have a copy of it handy..

I'm not sure, but I think Scott Little, Z3C, uses his own script... in
any event, he still generates the files each week in the I-ARGUS area.

oh... i didn't know and hadn't looked... it would be good for that one to also be distributed if it isn't already...

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Hi Mark,

Hey, I grabbed that from you today, thanks :)

:)

I was glad you mentioned it, and to find it again... IIRC, I lost a
good number of files around then, and that was one of them...

i'm sure others were happy, too... i'd say to rehatch it again with the REPLAC
so that it gets distributed to everyone carrying the I-BINK FDN... then there are more copies out and about in case i loose mine ;)

Hehe.. understand.

you should also get a copy off to jame! i'm sure he'll be appreciative :lol:

Yes, I'll do that. Thanks for mentioning it.

FWIW: i believe there should also be something similar for the other
weird nodelist formats... I-ARGUS is the other one, right? IIRC,
jerry did scripts for both but i've never used the argus one and
don't have a copy of it handy..

I'm not sure, but I think Scott Little, Z3C, uses his own script... in
any event, he still generates the files each week in the I-ARGUS area.

oh... i didn't know and hadn't looked... it would be good for that one to also
be distributed if it isn't already...

I'll see if Scott wants to do that.

Take care,
Janis

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On 2017 Jan 06 04:02:18, you wrote to Janis Kracht:

Who has the responsibility of generating the binkd.txt/binkd.nl file(s)?

IIRC, RJ Clay has been doing them...

I see that they are created using a script by:
"Created by binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night"

that's an old copy of the script... jame had to recover some stuff and
apparently hasn't recovered the v1.3 of the script...

At the time I was setting my system back up, that was only version I could find... I recalled that I had been running something newer but didn't have it.

I have it now, of course (thanks!), but still have to do it manually...




Jame





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Do you by chance know of a source for the most recent version of that
script?? <g> I wouldn't mind having the ability to make my own should
the need arise.

1.3 is the most recent... jerry isn't in fidonet any more and this is all we have...

I've had a thought about redoing such a utility using some Perl modules (especially one that can be used to read through a nodelist file) but haven't had the time to work on it.

the script /should/ already be in the I-BINKD area since at least
2007...

Is that how it was originally distributed?

perhaps it should be hatched with the replace verb so that all
connected systems will get it and those that didn't get it the first time around will get it this time around??

Perhaps something I could look into doing...





Jame


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I was glad you mentioned it, and to find it again... IIRC, I lost a
good number of files around then, and that was one of them...

you should also get a copy off to jame! i'm sure he'll be appreciative :lol:

I do, indeed!




Jame

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Hi Jame,

1.3 is the most recent... jerry isn't in fidonet any more and this is all we >> have...

I've had a thought about redoing such a utility using some Perl modules (especially one that can be used to read through a nodelist file) but haven't had the time to work on it.

the script /should/ already be in the I-BINKD area since at least
2007...

Is that how it was originally distributed?

Not that I can find here. I have records going back to 1995 of all files ever hatched by the filebone, and later called the Filegate, and there is no record of BNLPL13.ZIP having been released.

perhaps it should be hatched with the replace verb so that all
connected systems will get it and those that didn't get it the first time
around will get it this time around??

Perhaps something I could look into doing...

That would be great.

Take care,
Janis

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On 2017 Jan 17 11:11:14, you wrote to Rj Clay:

the script /should/ already be in the I-BINKD area since at least
2007...

Is that how it was originally distributed?

Not that I can find here. I have records going back to 1995 of all
files ever hatched by the filebone, and later called the Filegate, and there is no record of BNLPL13.ZIP having been released.

since the script is copyrighted 2002, i must have picked it up from somewhere and placed it there on my system... sorry about the misinformation... still think it a good idea to distribute it so there's more places to grab it from when it goes into hiding ;)

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Hi Mark,

the script /should/ already be in the I-BINKD area since at least
2007...

Is that how it was originally distributed?

Not that I can find here. I have records going back to 1995 of all
files ever hatched by the filebone, and later called the Filegate, and
there is no record of BNLPL13.ZIP having been released.

since the script is copyrighted 2002, i must have picked it up from somewhere

and placed it there on my system... sorry about the misinformation... still think it a good idea to distribute it so there's more places to grab it from when it goes into hiding ;)

It's ok, it's confusing, and yes, it's a good idea to get BNLPL13.ZIP out with replace. :)

BNLPL13.ZIP that I downloaded from your system carries this copyright:

# @(#) binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.3 - 14 April 2007
# @(#) Copyright (c) 2002, 2003, 2007 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night $version = "binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.3 - 14 April 2007";
$copyright_notice = "Copyright (c) 2002, 2003, 2007 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night";

As I mentioned in a later message (hope you saw that one), the file I have had here in the PERLfdn's PERLSCR (perl scripts) carries this copyright:

# @(#) binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002
# @(#) Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night
$version = "binkd_nodelister.pl version 1.0 - 26 November 2002"; $copyright_notice = "Copyright (c) 2002 by Jerry Schwartz and Write by Night";

So the one on your system is the later version. I sent that later one (BNLPL13.ZIP) to Jame, so he does have the later one that he can hatch out.

I'll leave it to Jame as to where the best place is to hatch the later version since we _did_ have a file echo, I-Nodelist/I-UTIL but that I-UTIL file echo has been removed from the filegate.zxx file (no files in years). Perlfdn's PERLSCR is still listed however.

Take care,
Janis

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On 2017 Jan 17 15:51:58, you wrote to me:

I'll leave it to Jame as to where the best place is to hatch the later version since we _did_ have a file echo, I-Nodelist/I-UTIL but that
I-UTIL file echo has been removed from the filegate.zxx file (no files
in years). Perlfdn's PERLSCR is still listed however.

personally speaking, either one is fine by me but i think it is a good idea to distribute the script with the data file it creates... others might not carry PERLSCR but they do carry I-BINKD so it seems that it would be better off in I_BINKD... but as you say, it is jame's choice one way or the other ;)

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Umm... Nevermind. <g> I found the v1.3 of the script and have already genera the nodelist files for both Fidonet and Fsxnet without any errors.

Would you be so kind to send the FSXnet one over to me (nd fidonet
would be appreciated) I've been gunshy with the binkd.txt. I haven't
used the file for a while.

Allen
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Hello Allen!

Umm... Nevermind. <g> I found the v1.3 of the script and have
already genera the nodelist files for both Fidonet and Fsxnet
without any errors.

Would you be so kind to send the FSXnet one over to me (nd fidonet
would be appreciated) I've been gunshy with the binkd.txt. I haven't
used the file for a while.

Yup. I will send them over in awhile. Remodeling (Sheetrocking) the laundry room at the moment. <g>


Jeff


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Yup. I will send them over in awhile. Remodeling (Sheetrocking) the laundry room at the moment. <g>

Yikes... that's hard work. NO worries the latest binkd.txt thing is
working ... better yet tech me how to run a perl script in windows and
how to roll my own and I'll never bother you for them again.

Thanks

Allen
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Hello Allen,

Yup. I will send them over in awhile. Remodeling (Sheetrocking) the laundry >> room at the moment. <g>

Yikes... that's hard work. NO worries the latest binkd.txt thing is
working ... better yet tech me how to run a perl script in windows and
how to roll my own and I'll never bother you for them again.

I sent a file (nlist.zip) via netmail to you at 1:2320/100. The file includes a
readme text file. Let me know if you have any questions.

Jeff



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