• Communism according to Greg

    From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Miller on Sat Jul 29 14:13:54 2017
    Hello Mike,

    This has to be one of the longest message in history of this echo, or
    maybe close to it, You probably are like most men, longer is better.
    I will cut through the fluff.

    You're the one who brought up the "longer is better" thing, so you seem rather pre-occupied with it. It's not something I think of as there are
    far
    more important matters to be concerned about.

    Also, I noticed the "fluff" you cut out were valid points and questions, specifically about Trump's incoherent, rambling speech to the Boy Scouts
    of
    America. I was a Cub Scout as a kid, and chose not to move on to the Boy Scouts when I got older, but I have many friends and family members who did, and some who still are involved with the organization. Even the conservative ones are apalled at Trump's campaign-style speech to a group of children.

    Look on the bright side. 45,000 Boy Scouts earned a new
    Boy Scout merit badge - TOLERATING AN IDIOT PRESIDENT.

    Merry Christmas in July.

    [..]

    When people use this against us what then, freedom of religion and so
    on. common sense must override and rule the day when the innocent is
    being slaughtered, based on religion. All terrorists are not Muslim,
    but most terrorists are Muslim.

    most terroists in the world are, at this time in history, Muslim.

    Most terrorists in the world are, at this time in history, white
    far-right extremists. Many of them Christian, born and raised in
    the good ol' US of A.

    this is true.

    The vast majority of Muslims, those in this country and around
    the world, are non-violent peaceful people. Think it out. There
    are some 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. Of those Muslims, less
    than 150,000 are terrorists or affiliated with terror groups. Of
    those terrorists, the vast majority of them live outside of the
    USA.

    However more mass attacks on Americans have come from non-muslim, American-born citizens over the last 20 years, by a pretty wide margin.

    White, far-right extremists. Such as Timothy McVeigh, David Koresh,
    The Unabomber ...

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Miller on Mon Jul 31 18:57:38 2017
    On 07/28/17, Mike Miller said the following...

    Hello Gregory!

    27 Jul 17 19:51, you wrote to me:

    On 07/27/17, Mike Miller said the following...

    This has to be one of the longest message in history of this echo, or maybe close to it, You probably are like most men, longer is better. I will cut through the fluff.

    You're the one who brought up the "longer is better" thing, so you seem rather pre-occupied with it. It's not something I think of as there are far more important matters to be concerned about.

    Also, I noticed the "fluff" you cut out were valid points and questions, specifically about Trump's incoherent, rambling speech to the Boy Scouts of America. I was a Cub Scout as a kid, and chose not to move on to the Boy Scouts when I got older, but I have many friends and family members who did, and some who still are involved with the organization. Even the conservative ones are apalled at Trump's campaign-style speech to a
    group of children.

    I too was a Cub Scout and went on with BSA reached the level of Star. I was even selected by my piers to be tapped out for the Order of the Arrow.



    *SNORT* Instead of Trump being talked about in the USA once a
    week when his TV show was on, He's being talked about EVERY DAY,
    ALL OVER THE WORLD. For a man that reportedly can't pay attention
    to an intelligence briefing unless his name is frequently
    mentioned, that has to be an ego boost. Hell, he has even said
    in speeches and tweeted about how many people are talking about
    him on a daily basis.

    Yes I remember him saying something about at the one of the Rally's that I attended and I do recall him saying this at other rally's as well, you misunderstand this for blustering and arrogance it is neither, he was talking about the movement and the effect that he had of the thousands who were in attendance, My wife and I were just 2 of 17000 in Albany, NY. I knows how to fire up a crowd and he unlike mos is keeping most of his campaign promises, and no I am not worried wit the word most because its only been 6 mo and a number of days, he is not even warmed up yet. Infact he has done more in this short amount of time than Obama has done in 8 years, never once have I ever heard Trump apologize for America, and that is one thing that I will not hear in his next 7 1/2 years as President. America has its swagger back.

    As said previously, he is an amazing salesman. He has most definitely
    not done more in 6 months than Obama did in 8 years.

    When have you ever heard Trump apologize for America, or America's place in
    the world, guess what you won't.

    I can recall numerous times when Obama did that, or when he also said that if someone worked hard and built a business, that it was not the individual that was not responsible for that, it was Government that did that.
    Obama was a divider in chief, putting races against each other.
    Again you will never catch Trump doing this.


    Well, I
    take that back, he's golfed a hell of a lot more. As of July 5, MM> Obama golfed 8 days, Trump golfed 19. Also, you managed to cut out the MM>
    "fluff" where I have first-hand information from citizens of other MM> countries on how they, and their fellow citizens feel about America MM>
    under Trump. (hint: it's not good) MM> MM>



    Wonderful! Although this figure is based on the number of people
    caught trying to cross the southern border. There are plenty of
    ways to get into the country other than over the US/Mexican
    border. the FAKE NEWS website Politifact rated Trump's statement
    as True, however, so I'm conflicted on if I should believe it or
    not.

    You missed the point with what the fact states, you need to pay attention to the words. The fact Illegal Immigration is down 67% so no it does not mean that they were caught, it means that 67% are not attempting to come here.

    It means 67% fewer were caught attempting to come here. That is the
    fact. I will admit it is a fairly reliable way of measurement, however,
    at least for those crossing the southern border.

    Finally, such a "Travel Ban" goes against everything our country
    stands for. only cowards are afraid of terrorists. You're not a
    coward, are you?

    Call it a public service, if these bad people come here and threaten me or my family, they will find out real quick the true meaning of courage. It has nothing to do with cowardice, it is called smart and the right thing to do. It is amazing to that people do not understand and can not seem to wrap your head around this fact that these people people cutting off heads and other terrorists do not care of your political affiliation or even if you affiliated with any party, they will slaughter you just as well if you are an American citizen.

    Hear Disease threatens you far more than terroists. What are you doing about that? or drunk drivers? or cancer? or choking on food? or being
    shot by a police officer? Or drowning? or falling off something?
    Diabetes, Alzheimers, Strokes, Poisoning, fire, car accidents, "accidental" gunshots, animal attacks, sharp object accidents, or even just walking? All of those have a much higher chance of killing you
    than a foreign-born terrorist.
    Right these are all preventable. So is keeping people out the country who
    want to do us harm.

    MM>
    You have a better chance of being struck and killed by lightning, an asteroid, or even dying from a shark attack than from a refugee
    terrorist, or illegal immigrant terrorist, as well!

    Only the lottery has worse odds than all of the above.


    Cutting funding for Sanctuary Cities. MM>
    Dick move. MM> MM>

    Tell Kate Steinle's family or the other families who lost loved ones, that this was a dick move.

    You're holding up a single death by a stray bullet that was fired by an illegal immigrant? when there are over 30,000 people killed in our
    country by guns every year by citizens? Sounds like you're cherry
    picking data, I should start calling you Timmy.

    There is a difference between accidents & over 4000 murders committed by gang bangers killing each other in the streets of Chicago all while Obama was President The people that I am talking are the innocent who killed by people who are not suppose to be here in the first place.

    No it's not one just one death, but what if it was, why should her death made out to be sounding insignificant? She was shot in the back walking down the pier with her father, by a illegal immigrant who was deported 5 times.

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  • From Bj”rn Felten@2:203/2 to Gregory Deyss on Sun Jul 23 01:49:28 2017
    You play this Communism thing, like it's a sweet sounding violin, when
    it's
    freakin communism, not good, not free, not freedom of choice.

    And you, Sir, obviously have no idea about what communism really is. You've been brainwashed from day one with the warped US definition that gave you McCarthyism, Korean war, Vietnam war and then all the military expenditures that's now totally broken the US economy -- just wait and see.

    You really should have picked the red pill, mate. Oh wait, I guess you haven't even seen The Matrix...?



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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Bj”rn Felten on Sun Jul 23 12:27:12 2017
    On 07/23/17, Bj”rn Felten said the following...

    You play this Communism thing, like it's a sweet sounding violin, whe
    it's
    freakin communism, not good, not free, not freedom of choice.

    And you, Sir, obviously have no idea about what communism really is. You've been brainwashed from day one with the warped US definition that gave you McCarthyism, Korean war, Vietnam war and then all the military expenditures that's now totally broken the US economy -- just wait and see.

    Let's check the facts under communism, can you own property wither it is physical property or even intellectual property or other type of property?

    The US economy is much better under Trump than it ever was under Obama, that
    is the effects when the President puts America First.

    BF> BF> You really should have picked the red pill, mate.
    Oh wait, I guess you BF> haven't even seen The Matrix...?

    Of course I have seen the Matrix, I own all 3 movies on blu-ray
    I find it interesting that you bring up the matrix, perhaps you have not seen the twenty thousand dollar winner of the Infowars contest. It was the Matrix Trump as Neo "The One" and Smith playing the parts of CNN.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Gregory Deyss on Mon Jul 24 13:24:02 2017
    Hi, Gregory Deyss!
    I read your message from 23.07.2017 11:27

    GD> Let's check the facts under communism, can you own property
    GD> wither it is physical property or even intellectual property or
    GD> other type of property?

    IMHO, it is not correct to speak about Communism in the USSR. The USSR
    was a country which _tried_ to go in the direction of Communism. During
    its history the USSR approached differently towards the private
    property, like it has been in China. The difference is in the direction towards isolation. The USSR went to isolation and dictatorship, China
    goes from it.

    Bye, Gregory!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to alexander koryagin on Mon Jul 24 18:55:50 2017
    On 07/24/17, alexander koryagin said the following...

    IMHO, it is not correct to speak about Communism in the USSR. The USSR was a country which _tried_ to go in the direction of Communism. During its history the USSR approached differently towards the private
    property, like it has been in China. The difference is in the direction towards isolation. The USSR went to isolation and dictatorship, China goes from it.

    You commented but you did not answer my question, call it what you will USSR
    or Russia, the facts remain the same.

    So again can you own property, granted everyone knows what China is.
    Communist for sure... but what of Russia?

    To be honest with you Alexander, I have more freedoms then you do, but
    those freedoms do not make me better then you. The comments that were made previously about capitalism not being a good thing, and there were some comments that were made about the U.S. going down hill, basically they were not nice comments or remotely true, so I was defending my country and I guess in a small way President Trump and every other hard working American who loves the his or her country. The U.S. finally has a President who wants to Make
    America Great Again, instead of the former President who wanted to implode it from within.

    I have no beef with you per say but when I hear that communism and other
    things are existing that cause suppression and then I read in here how wonderful it is and even calling it better than our system, well, I will
    stand up.

    Biggest opposition of Putin's United Russia (center right party) is Communist party.

    No one is kicking down their doors, no one is jailing their politicians, no
    one is shutting down their newspapers and publications, no one is preventing their speakers from speaking.

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  • From alexander koryagin@2:5020/2140.2 to Gregory Deyss on Tue Jul 25 22:36:18 2017
    Hi, Gregory Deyss!
    I read your message from 24.07.2017 17:55

    ak>> IMHO, it is not correct to speak about Communism in the USSR. The
    ak>> USSR was a country which _tried_ to go in the direction of
    ak>> Communism. During its history the USSR approached differently
    ak>> towards the private property, like it has been in China. The
    ak>> difference is in the direction towards isolation. The USSR went to
    ak>> isolation and dictatorship, China goes from it.

    GD> You commented but you did not answer my question, call it what you
    GD> will USSR or Russia, the facts remain the same.

    Anyway it was not Communism or you use this word incorrectly.

    GD> So again can you own property, granted everyone knows what China
    GD> is. Communist for sure... but what of Russia?

    I said that there were different periods in the USSR. Before Gorbachev
    if a person bought or built a house, car etc -- it was called a personal property. Plants and factories were part of state economy. After
    perestroika in the USSR there appeared some private plants and legal millionaires.

    The difference between new capitalistic Russia and present day China is
    the different way of a private sector creation. China just created the
    ground for private economy thriving, while new Russian guys preferred ransacked everything that was working. New Russians got their fortunes
    for nothing, without hard work. They should have built new economy, new plants, but they instead enjoyed dividing something that never worked effectively. ;-) That was the reason of the new Russian economy
    collapse. Well, I distracted, however.

    <skipped>

    GD> I have no beef with you per say but when I hear that communism and
    GD> other things are existing that cause suppression and then I read in
    GD> here how wonderful it is and even calling it better than our
    GD> system, well, I will stand up.

    GD> Biggest opposition of Putin's United Russia (center right party) is
    GD> Communist party.

    At least you see that Communism itself is not a clear identification
    mark for dictatorship and unfreedom.
    The US Martin Luther King, Jr.'s democracy, is very young. Everything
    can happen. In the US freedom has been significantly curtailed during
    last decades.

    Bye, Gregory!
    Alexander Koryagin
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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Miller on Wed Jul 26 19:09:00 2017
    On 07/25/17, Mike Miller said the following...

    Trump is an amazing salesman, Trump cares about no one but himself. The only things he wants to make great are his legacy and his bank accounts.

    If Donald J. Trump were as self-centered as you have indicated then this multi-billionare would of not run for President of the United States. He has stated many times he has a wonderful life, but he had to run because he saw how things were going down hill and in the wrong direction. He wanted to gave back to a country that has provided him with so much, so this has never been about him or any personal financial gain ex: he is not collecting any salary for being the President, nor is he receiving any social security, clearly he does not need it.

    Neither seem to be going well for him, and in the process he's making our country the laughingstock of the modern world.

    Says who, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, if you are watching FAKE NEWS, it is no wonder you feel this way, if your not watching these, what is your basis in your belief that he is making our country a laughing stock.

    Maybe you have not seen or are paying attention to the U.S. Stock Market, it is soaring, in-fact the the stock market has gained 2 trillion in wealth
    since Trump was elected. The S&P broke 20 trillion for the first time in it's history.

    Illegal immigration is down 67% since the President's Inauguration.

    Travel Bans for individuals from a select number of countries embroiled in terrorist atrocities.

    Cutting funding for Sanctuary Cities.

    Exiting the U.S. from the TPP.

    There are many more things, so you sir are lost, if the rest of the world is laughing at us, it is because of people like you who believe in Fake News. Don't worry though... this will not deter the President from putting America First.

    We have bombed more innocent civilians than ever before, though! Does
    that make us great?

    To date the Trump Administration has had two incidents of dropping bombs,
    once case was launching tomahawk missiles to take out a air field of a
    madman, gassing his own people. -ex talk about innocent civilians.
    The other time was dropping the MOAB (Mother of all bombs) to crush these cockroaches also known as terrorists.

    We are shipping unskilled labor jobs overseas faster than before too!
    I have not heard of this but what would be the point of keeping UNSKILLED labors.

    Oh! Also, our president insists that the free press is "the enemy" and
    you should only believe the things he says or tweets. This is also "great", right?

    The media has been in the bag for Hillary Clinton since, day 1.
    This so called Russian collusion story is a scapegoat for Hillary running a horribly run campaign and to explain how the pollsters could be so incredibly wrong. The real Russian Collusion story will be coming out very soon, and its not Trump but Clinton. Don't believe me, stay tuned.

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to Mike Miller on Thu Jul 27 20:23:46 2017
    Hello Mike,

    Trump is an amazing salesman, Trump cares about no one but
    himself. The only things he wants to make great are his legacy
    and his bank accounts.

    If Donald J. Trump were as self-centered as you have indicated then
    this multi-billionare would of not run for President of the United
    States. He has stated many times he has a wonderful life, but he had
    to run because he saw how things were going down hill and in the wrong
    direction. He wanted to gave back to a country that has provided him
    with so much, so this has never been about him or any personal
    financial gain ex: he is not collecting any salary for being the
    President, nor is he receiving any social security, clearly he
    does not need it.

    *SNORT* Instead of Trump being talked about in the USA once a week when
    his
    TV show was on, He's being talked about EVERY DAY, ALL OVER THE WORLD.

    Instead of FDR being talked about in the USA once a week when his
    radio show was on, he was talked about EVERY DAY, ALL OVER THE WORLD.
    Even after his untimely death in April 1945, he is still talked about
    today.

    For a man that reportedly can't pay attention to an intelligence briefing unless his name is frequently mentioned, that has to be an ego boost. Hell, he has even said in speeches and tweeted about how many people are talking about him on a daily basis.

    FDR understood how to use the medium of radio to his advantage.
    Reagan understood how to use the medium of television to his advantage.
    Trump understands how to use the medium of twitter to his advantage.

    Neither seem to be going well for him, and in the process he's
    making our country the laughingstock of the modern world.

    Says who, ABC, CBS, CNN, NBC, MSNBC, if you are watching FAKE NEWS, it
    is no wonder you feel this way, if your not watching these, what is
    your basis in your belief that he is making our country a laughing
    stock.

    I work for an international company. We have employees based in 14
    different
    countries, and contract employees in at least 4-5 others. I've talked politics with many of them, and they all believe (and they say the general consensus is) that our president is a joke. (For the record, the vast majority of the countries are in Europe and Asia)

    Trump is a businessman. I would say "was", but he claims he can
    be both president and businessman at the same time. Not sure what
    he has to sell as a politician, other than snake oil, or even if
    he can find anybody (other than himself) to buy his product. But
    hey. Time will tell.

    Maybe you have not seen or are paying attention to the U.S. Stock
    Market, it is soaring, in-fact the the stock market has gained 2
    trillion in wealth since Trump was elected. The S&P broke 20 trillion
    for the first time in it's history.

    Are you prepared to admit that the stock market did amazing under
    President
    Obama? because the S&P 500 rose 231% between March 6, 2009, and January
    19,
    2017.

    What goes up, will come down. But it is still going up. And up.
    And up. Better buy now, while you still can. Trump's policies will
    guarantee the rich get richer, and the poor get poorer. That is how
    to make America great again.

    Illegal immigration is down 67% since the President's Inauguration.

    Wonderful! Although this figure is based on the number of people caught trying to cross the southern border.

    Mexican immigration officials are doing a heckuva job!

    There are plenty of ways to get into the country other than over the US/Mexican border.

    Most people prefer to fly rather than to walk. I mean, the desert
    is a very hot place. And besides, you get free drinks when taking
    a ride by airplane.

    the FAKE NEWS website Politifact rated Trump's statement as True,

    Trump never lies. He is just expedient with the truth.
    Remember that, and you will never be falsely accused of
    spreading fake news.

    however, so I'm conflicted on if I should believe it or not.

    Trump believes every word he says. And tweets.

    Travel Bans for individuals from a select number of countries
    embroiled in terrorist atrocities.

    The countries you mention:
    Iran
    Libya
    Somalia
    Sudan
    Syria
    Yemen

    All predominantly Muslim countries.

    The countries Islamic terrorists were born in that attacked the United States since 9/11:
    United States: 7
    Russia: 1
    Kyrgyzstan: 1
    Egypt: 1
    Kuwait: 1
    Pakistan: 1

    There are many more terrorists who have attacked the United States
    since 9/11 - not all of them Muslim. But there certainly is a pattern
    showing Muslim violence against non-Muslims.

    The 9/11 hijackers countries of origin:
    Egypt: 1
    Lebanon: 1
    Saudi Arabia: 15
    United Arab Emirates: 2

    All of the terrorists were Muslim.

    Just for fun, out of those countries listed, here is a list of countries that Trump has/had business dealings with:
    United States (duh)
    Russia
    Egypt
    Saudi Arabia
    United Arab Emirates

    Trump has/had business dealings with many other countries as well.

    The "Travel Ban" countries come from a list a GOP congresswoman attached
    as
    a rider to an appropriations bill in 2015. Obama signed the bill.

    So why are you complaining about what Trump wants to do?

    Finally, such a "Travel Ban" goes against everything our country stands
    for.
    only cowards are afraid of terrorists. You're not a coward, are you?

    The president took an oath to defend the the Constitution, and
    this country, from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Your
    problem with this is?

    Cutting funding for Sanctuary Cities.

    Dick move.

    Unconstitutional, so it is an empty threat.

    Exiting the U.S. from the TPP.

    I'm actually OK with this!

    Doesn't bother me. But it will make things more expensive for
    consumers.

    It does not, however, "Make America Great Again", nor even come close to making up for the stupid things he has done in the last 6 months.

    Not to worry. He's just getting started.

    There are many more things, so you sir are lost, if the rest of the
    world is laughing at us, it is because of people like you who believe
    in Fake News. Don't worry though... this will not deter the President
    from putting America First.

    You have yet to demonstrat he puts America First, and not Trump first.

    Trump is the president. Not you. Not me. Not anybody else.
    He is teaching the world a lesson. A lesson about respect.
    For too long, the world has expected the US to give, give, give
    without ever getting anything back. Now the world is finding
    out their free ride is over. They are going to have to start
    paying their own way. Such as paying for their own defense
    rather than getting the US to buy/provide everything for them.

    If he really put America first, his Cabinet and staff would be full of intelligent people that are experts in the fields they were hired for.

    Former NSA Chief and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has
    high regards for Secretary of State Tillerson. Sorry to hear
    of your disappointment in his capabilities.

    Not family members and billionaires that are completely out of touch with the people their agency is set up to help.

    Jimmy Carter had his brother. And you are complaining about
    Trump's daughter? At least she is better looking, and doesn't
    guzzle beer.

    We have bombed more innocent civilians than ever before, though!
    Does that make us great?

    To date the Trump Administration has had two incidents of dropping
    bombs, once case was launching tomahawk missiles to take out a air
    field of a madman, gassing his own people. -ex talk about innocent
    civilians. The other time was dropping the MOAB (Mother of all bombs)
    to crush these cockroaches also known as terrorists.

    And civilians. so many civilians. so many children...

    Collateral damage. Happens in war. But now there is peace.
    Sort of. With Russia on our side, and Putin as Trump's very
    best friend.

    We are shipping unskilled labor jobs overseas faster than before
    too!
    I have not heard of this but what would be the point of keeping
    UNSKILLED labors.

    You can't be this dumb, can you? UNSKILLED labor, is the kind of labor
    that
    picks your crops, manufactures the clothes you wear, makes those TV
    dinners
    and snack-foods you like so much. UNSKILLED labor works in paper mills, foundries, steel mills, COAL MINES, etc. pretty much any manufacturing industry depends upon UNSKILLED LABOR.

    That's why Trump wants to build a wall. With Mexico paying for it.
    Once that is done, Americans will have real jobs. No more fake jobs
    at fast food joints, but real jobs doing jobs their parents and
    grandparents did for ages.

    Oh! Also, our president insists that the free press is "the
    enemy" and you should only believe the things he says or tweets.
    This is also "great", right?

    The media has been in the bag for Hillary Clinton since, day 1.
    This so called Russian collusion story is a scapegoat for Hillary
    running a horribly run campaign and to explain how the pollsters GD>could
    be so incredibly wrong. The real Russian Collusion story will be
    coming out very soon, and its not Trump but Clinton. Don't believe GD>me,
    stay tuned.

    We are not talking about Hillary Clinton. The election is over. Clinton lost.

    She ran a very poor campaign. Especially the last two weeks.
    But even then, she still managed to get almost 3 million more
    popular votes than her nearest opponent. Although that was
    mainly due to flakes in California.

    If we're going to Make America Great Again, we certainly can't do it by attacking THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

    Why not?

    Trump doesn't know what he's doing, instead of surrounding himself with people that could educate him quickly, he surrounded himself with his billionaire buddies and family members. When he gets confused, he runs off to play golf (Mr. "I'm not going to have time for golf!"). If he feels down, he goes and does a campaign-style speech to whoever will listen to him.

    Trump has played golf more often than any president before him.
    And there is good reason for him doing so. Decisions are best made
    when he is at peace, away from the maddening crowd. Where he can
    truly concentrate on what is important, rather than having to deal
    with what is not.

    Did you see the crap he rambnled to the Boy Scouts of America over the weekend? DESPICABLE! What the hell is wrong with him?!

    Only a Boy Scout would understand.

    I was honestly ready to give Trump a chance, but the minute Sean Spicer took the podium on January 21, 2017 to chastize the press for reporting accurate information on crowd sizes, I knew it was over.

    Sean Spicer was hired to present the administration's point of view.
    And he did it so well, for the brief time he was there. Now it is up
    to the new gal in town to do what he was hired to do. I wish her all
    the luck in the world. She will need it.

    He lives in a fantasy world, propped up by hangers-on and yes-men.

    Being president is a tough job. But somebody has to do it.

    I honestly have no idea if he believes the lies he tells or not, but he's doing nothing but making our country look bad.

    Every president has to believe in himself, in what he is doing.
    Otherwise, why do it? We hired him to do a job. If we are
    satisfied with his performance, we will keep him. If not, we
    will put in somebody else. That is the way it works. Or
    supposed to.

    --Lee

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  • From Gregory Deyss@1:267/150 to Mike Miller on Thu Jul 27 19:51:08 2017
    On 07/27/17, Mike Miller said the following...

    This has to be one of the longest message in history of this echo, or maybe close to it, You probably are like most men, longer is better. I will cut through the fluff.


    Trump is an amazing salesman, Trump cares about no one but
    himself. The only things he wants to make great are his legacy
    and his bank accounts.

    If Donald J. Trump were as self-centered as you have indicated then this multi-billionare would of not run for President of the United States. He has stated many times he has a wonderful life, but he had to run because he saw how things were going down hill and in the wron direction. He wanted to gave back to a country that has provided him with so much, so this has never been about him or any personal financial gain ex: he is not collecting any salary for being the President, nor is he receiving any social security, clearly he
    does not need it.

    *SNORT* Instead of Trump being talked about in the USA once a week when his TV show was on, He's being talked about EVERY DAY, ALL OVER THE
    WORLD. For a man that reportedly can't pay attention to an intelligence briefing unless his name is frequently mentioned, that has to be an ego boost. Hell, he has even said in speeches and tweeted about how many people are talking about him on a daily basis.

    Yes I remember him saying something about at the one of the Rally's that I attended and I do recall him saying this at other rally's as well, you misunderstand this for blustering and arrogance it is neither, he was talking about the movement and the effect that he had of the thousands who were in attendance, My wife and I were just 2 of 17000 in Albany, NY. I knows how to fire up a crowd and he unlike most is keeping most of his campaign promises, and no I am not worried with the word most because its only been 6 mo and a number of days, he is not even warmed up yet. Infact he has done more in this short amount of time than Obama has done in 8 years, never once have I ever heard Trump apologize for America, and that is one thing that I will not hear in his next 7 1/2 years as President. America has its swagger back.

    Wonderful! Although this figure is based on the number of people caught trying to cross the southern border. There are plenty of ways to get
    into the country other than over the US/Mexican border. the FAKE NEWS website Politifact rated Trump's statement as True, however, so I'm conflicted on if I should believe it or not.

    You missed the point with what the fact states, you need to pay attention to the words. The fact Illegal Immigration is down 67% so no it does not mean that they were caught, it means that 67% are not attempting to come here.

    Finally, such a "Travel Ban" goes against everything our country stands for. only cowards are afraid of terrorists. You're not a coward, are you?

    Call it a public service, if these bad people come here and threaten me or my family, they will find out real quick the true meaning of courage.
    It has nothing to do with cowardice, it is called smart and the right thing
    to do. It is amazing to that people do not understand and can not seem to
    wrap your head around this fact that these people people cutting off heads
    and other terrorists do not care of your political affiliation or even if you affiliated with any party, they will slaughter you just as well if you are an American citizen.

    Cutting funding for Sanctuary Cities. MM>
    Dick move. MM> MM>

    Tell Kate Steinle's family or the other families who lost loved ones, that
    this was a dick move.

    You have yet to demonstrat he puts America First,

    I don't have too he won, I am not going to point out what you are unable to comprehend.

    To date the Trump Administration has had two incidents of dropping bombs, once case was launching tomahawk missiles to take out a air field of a madman, gassing his own people. -ex talk about innocent civilians. The other time was dropping the MOAB (Mother of all bombs) to crush these cockroaches also known as terrorists.
    And civilians. so many civilians. so many children...

    Riddle me this what are children doing at a Military air strip. Do you even know that a that a tomahawk is guided by GPS.

    You can't be this dumb, can you? UNSKILLED labor, is the kind of labor that picks your crops, manufactures the clothes you wear, makes those TV dinners and snack-foods you like so much. UNSKILLED labor works in
    paper mills, foundries, steel mills, COAL MINES, etc. pretty much any manufacturing industry depends upon UNSKILLED LABOR.

    I would not classify any of these jobs as unskilled. But I did hear the
    farmers are worried now they will actually have to consider to pay people a decent wage to work.

    We are not talking about Hillary Clinton. The election is over.
    Clinton lost. If we're going to Make America Great Again, we certainly can't do it by attacking THE FIRST AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!

    When people use this against us what then, freedom of religion and so on. common sense must override and rule the day when the innocent is being slaughtered, based on religion.
    All terrorists are not Muslim, but most terrorists are Muslim.

    I was honestly ready to give Trump a chance, but the minute Sean Spicer took the podium on January 21, 2017 to chastize the press for reporting accurate information on crowd sizes,

    That business of crowd size was a sham, its called being pissed off that he won, ok he won but the crowd size was not as big as Obama's in at sad attempt to discredit the man even on the first day.
    This is also known as the origin where the fake news began.
    The fact that you can not see that means, that no chance was given.

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