• Re: TV with IPV6

    From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Fri Jul 28 00:34:00 2017
    On 07-28-17 00:21, Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
    spoke to Dale Shipp about TV with IPV6 <=-

    My TV set connects to my FIOS box and is assigned a *local* net IP address. It is only when it goes out over the internet that it gets a
    non local address, be that IPv4 or IPv6 -- depending on what the FIOS
    box is capable of. Ditto for all of the computers on my local net.

    MVDV> To access an IPv6 only server from a device everything in
    MVDV> the chain must support IPv6 or be IP version agnostic. The
    MVDV> modem, the router, the switches and the device itself. If
    MVDV> your TV does not support IPv6 it can not play content from
    MVDV> an IPv6 only server.

    I guess I will have to just not get it, but thanks for trying to
    explain. My TV set does stream content from the internet, but it is
    connected through the modem interface box. It only has a local IP
    address (192.168.1.151). The box knows its MAC address and UUID, so it
    handles the translation from the outside world to the TV. It works, and
    that is all I care about. It would seem to me that what matters is
    whether or not the interface box can do IPv6 if needed?

    Dale Shipp
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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dale Shipp on Fri Jul 28 14:07:54 2017
    Hello Dale,

    On Friday July 28 2017 00:34, you wrote to me:

    MVDV>> To access an IPv6 only server from a device everything in
    MVDV>> the chain must support IPv6 or be IP version agnostic. The
    MVDV>> modem, the router, the switches and the device itself. If
    MVDV>> your TV does not support IPv6 it can not play content from
    MVDV>> an IPv6 only server.

    I guess I will have to just not get it, but thanks for trying to
    explain.

    You obviously need some basic knowledge for understanding. There is plenty to be found on the InterNet and teaching is not my strong point, so instead of trying to explain it myself, I will provide some pointers. This is a good one for starters:

    https://www.tutorialspoint.com/ipv6/index.htm

    Or if you prefer video:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR8ve5tTWAA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUmhZOnz_qc

    My TV set does stream content from the internet, but it is
    connected through the modem interface box. It only has a local IP
    address (192.168.1.151). The box knows its MAC address and UUID, so it handles the translation from the outside world to the TV.

    That translation is called NAT or NAPT, but that works only for IPv4. A local IPv5 address is translated back and forth to the one and only global IPv4 address that is assigned to you and shared by oll your devices om your LAN.

    It works, and that is all I care about.

    It works... for now. But it is not ready for the (near) future.

    It would seem to me that what matters is whether or not the interface
    box can do IPv6 if needed?

    There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 into IPv4. As I said for IPv6 support the end device must support IPv6.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to All on Sat Jul 29 00:46:22 2017
    MvdV> There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 into IPv4. As I said for IPv6
    MvdV> support the end device must support IPv6.

    MvdV> Cheers, Michiel

    What Michiel is saying is that we're all screwed. All those
    stuck in the IPv4 world will be left behind. Which is to say
    most (if not all) Americans.

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Sat Jul 29 08:50:50 2017
    On 29/07/2017 8:46 AM, Lee Lofaso -> All wrote:
    MvdV>> There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 into IPv4. As I
    said for IPv6
    MvdV>> support the end device must support IPv6.

    MvdV>> Cheers, Michiel

    What Michiel is saying is that we're all screwed. All those
    stuck in the IPv4 world will be left behind. Which is to say
    most (if not all) Americans.

    As long as there is IP4 your stuff will still work.

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your LAN will
    still work using NAT ...


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Sat Jul 29 14:13:48 2017
    Hello David,

    What Michiel is saying is that we're all screwed. All those
    stuck in the IPv4 world will be left behind. Which is to say
    most (if not all) Americans.

    As long as there is IP4 your stuff will still work.

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your LAN will still work using NAT ...

    I am batting 0/10 on this IPv6 ready stuff. Ditto with
    most others in the USA. Why? Because most people here do
    not give a rat's cocktail about techie stuff. All they
    want is their stuff to work.

    Why won't my TV set work? Try plugging it in.

    Remember, these are the same folks who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    --Lee

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sat Jul 29 15:22:04 2017
    Hello David,

    On Saturday July 29 2017 08:50, you wrote to Lee Lofaso:

    What Michiel is saying is that we're all screwed. All those
    stuck in the IPv4 world will be left behind. Which is to say
    most (if not all) Americans.

    As long as there is IP4 your stuff will still work.

    If you only have IPv4 parts of the InterNet will be unaccessable to you. That inaccessable part will grow.

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your
    LAN will still work using NAT ...

    No. There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 to IPv4.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Sun Jul 30 06:46:38 2017
    On 29/07/2017 10:13 PM, Lee Lofaso -> David Drummond wrote:

    As long as there is IP4 your stuff will still work.

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your LAN
    will still work using NAT ...

    I am batting 0/10 on this IPv6 ready stuff. Ditto with
    most others in the USA. Why? Because most people here do
    not give a rat's cocktail about techie stuff. All they
    want is their stuff to work.

    Why won't my TV set work? Try plugging it in.

    Remember, these are the same folks who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    One does not have to understand how something works to be able to use it. How many of us actually understand the inner workings of our computers yet we appear to be using them to communicate.


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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 30 06:48:34 2017
    On 29/07/2017 11:22 PM, Michiel van der Vlist -> David Drummond wrote:

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your
    LAN will still work using NAT ...

    MvdV> No. There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 to IPv4.

    No IPv6/IPv4 NAT?

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 30 06:51:42 2017
    On 29/07/2017 11:22 PM, Michiel van der Vlist -> David Drummond wrote:

    As long as there is IP4 your stuff will still work.

    MvdV> If you only have IPv4 parts of the InterNet will be unaccessable to you.
    MvdV> That inaccessable part will grow.

    My ISP doesn't appear to be offering IPv6 with the fixed wireless I am using.

    I'm not getting any "unavailable do to IP incompatibility" messages yet.

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to David Drummond on Sun Jul 30 07:58:00 2017
    David Drummond wrote to Michiel van der Vlist <=-

    I'm not getting any "unavailable do to IP incompatibility" messages
    yet.

    Most of the time, it will be more subtle like "Host not found", because any IPv6 only parts of the Internet will simply act as if they're not there to IPv4 only hosts. However, I suspect there is very little that's not on IPv4, but there is quite a lot that is on dual stack IPv4/IPv6, like all of the major social media websites (Facebook, Google, etc), and a large number of major players.

    For me, IPv6 is already having some advantages, like being able to have multiple systems online using the same ports without having to jump through hoops (I'm using a VPN to tunnel in extra IPv4 addresses, IPv6 is straight in native).


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sun Jul 30 00:10:58 2017
    Hello David,

    On Sunday July 30 2017 06:48, you wrote to me:

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff
    on your LAN will still work using NAT ...

    MvdV>> No. There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 to IPv4.

    No IPv6/IPv4 NAT?

    No. Not for the general case. There is no way to make a unique 1:1 match between a set of 2^32 members and a set of 2^128 members.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sun Jul 30 00:16:14 2017
    Hello David,

    On Sunday July 30 2017 06:51, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> If you only have IPv4 parts of the InterNet will be
    MvdV>> unaccessable to you. That inaccessable part will grow.

    My ISP doesn't appear to be offering IPv6 with the fixed wireless I am using.

    I'm not getting any "unavailable do to IP incompatibility" messages
    yet.

    You won't see anything like that. Try to ping atlas.vlist.eu. You probably will
    get e response like "host name does not exist".

    atlas.vlist.eu is IPv6 only.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 30 13:50:16 2017
    On 30/07/2017 8:16 AM, Michiel van der Vlist -> David Drummond wrote:

    I'm not getting any "unavailable do to IP incompatibility" messages
    yet.

    MvdV> You won't see anything like that. Try to ping atlas.vlist.eu. You
    MvdV> probably will get e response like "host name does not exist".

    MvdV> atlas.vlist.eu is IPv6 only.

    I am sure that there are IPv6 only systems out there - but are they publicly accessible systems that I might want to access? As I have aged my curiosity "just for the sake of it" has waned.

    There are many (non-IP) things in this world that I have no access to - am I any worse off?


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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 30 15:48:00 2017
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to David Drummond <=-

    You won't see anything like that. Try to ping atlas.vlist.eu. You probably will get e response like "host name does not exist".

    atlas.vlist.eu is IPv6 only.

    Correct, though you'll notice I had to use ping -4 to get that result, because I have native IPv6. :)

    C:\Offline>ping atlas.vlist.eu

    Pinging atlas.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8] with 32 bytes

    f data:
    Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8: time=348ms
    Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8: time=347ms
    Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8: time=346ms
    Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8: time=347ms

    Ping statistics for 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8:
    Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
    Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
    Minimum = 346ms, Maximum = 348ms, Average = 347ms

    C:\Offline>ping -4 atlas.vlist.eu
    Ping request could not find host atlas.vlist.eu. Please check the name and try

    gain.


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/10.1 to David Drummond on Sun Jul 30 09:35:12 2017
    David Drummond wrote:

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your
    LAN will still work using NAT ...

    MvdV> No. There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 to IPv4.

    No IPv6/IPv4 NAT?

    No NAT, but if you have an ipv6 capable device (router, linux/windows computer...), you can run a proxy (squid, privoxy...) in it. Then you can access the ipv6 world from your ipv4 devices.

    Or maybe your ISP already has a proxy service which can do that for you? :)

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to David Drummond on Sun Jul 30 09:29:42 2017
    Hello David,

    On Sunday July 30 2017 13:50, you wrote to me:

    MvdV>> atlas.vlist.eu is IPv6 only.

    I am sure that there are IPv6 only systems out there - but are they publicly accessible systems that I might want to access?

    All I can say is that without IPv6 part of the Internet is inaccessable to you and that part will grow.

    As I have aged my curiosity "just for the sake of it" has waned.

    Pity...

    There are many (non-IP) things in this world that I have no access to
    - am I any worse off?

    You are the only one that can answer that question.


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tommi Koivula on Sun Jul 30 09:42:32 2017
    Hello Tommi,

    On Sunday July 30 2017 09:35, you wrote to David Drummond:

    MvdV> No. There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 to IPv4.

    No IPv6/IPv4 NAT?

    No NAT, but if you have an ipv6 capable device (router, linux/windows computer...), you can run a proxy (squid, privoxy...) in it. Then you
    can access the ipv6 world from your ipv4 devices.

    That only works for a limited number of application. http for example. The internet is bigger than http...


    Cheers, Michiel

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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Tony Langdon on Sun Jul 30 09:55:22 2017
    Hello Tony,

    On Sunday July 30 2017 15:48, you wrote to me:

    atlas.vlist.eu is IPv6 only.

    Correct, though you'll notice I had to use ping -4 to get that result, because I have native IPv6. :)

    Of course.

    C:\Offline>> ping atlas.vlist.eu

    For the uninitiated: atlas.vlist.eu is my Ripe Atlas probe.

    https://atlas.ripe.net

    It is a little box, connected to my LAN. You can't ping it from outside via IPv4. The only thing on my LAN that can be pinged from outside is the WAN side of my router. With IPv6 things are different. Every device on the LAN has a unique global IPv6 address. I have configured the firewall of my LAN to pass ping requests. And so devices on my LAN are individiually pingable over IPv6.

    It is comparable to a Private Automatic Branch Exchange with Direct Dial In.

    Pinging atlas.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8] with
    32 bytes

    f data:
    Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8: time=348ms

    So there you go, it answers. ;-)

    C:\Offline>> ping -4 atlas.vlist.eu
    Ping request could not find host atlas.vlist.eu. Please check the name
    and try gain.

    Yep, no A record for atlas.vlist.eu.


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  • From Tommi Koivula@2:221/10.1 to Michiel van der Vlist on Sun Jul 30 11:50:08 2017
    XPost: ipv6

    Michiel van der Vlist wrote:

    MvdV> No. There is no easy general way to translate IPv6 to IPv4.

    No IPv6/IPv4 NAT?

    No NAT, but if you have an ipv6 capable device (router, linux/windows computer...), you can run a proxy (squid, privoxy...) in it. Then you can access the ipv6 world from your ipv4 devices.

    That only works for a limited number of application. http for example.

    You should take a look at squid. It can do much more than http. Binkp, for example, as you know. :)

    The internet is bigger than http...

    For the most people the internet is only http. :D

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  • From Tony Langdon@3:633/410 to Michiel van der Vlist on Mon Jul 31 09:02:00 2017
    Michiel van der Vlist wrote to Tony Langdon <=-

    C:\Offline>> ping atlas.vlist.eu

    For the uninitiated: atlas.vlist.eu is my Ripe Atlas probe.

    https://atlas.ripe.net

    Interesting, just reading up on this, looks like quite a useful project.

    It is a little box, connected to my LAN. You can't ping it from outside via IPv4. The only thing on my LAN that can be pinged from outside is
    the WAN side of my router. With IPv6 things are different. Every device on the LAN has a unique global IPv6 address. I have configured the firewall of my LAN to pass ping requests. And so devices on my LAN are individiually pingable over IPv6.

    I think only those devices I open to the outside world are pinagable on IPv6, the rest are well locked down by the firewall.

    It is comparable to a Private Automatic Branch Exchange with Direct
    Dial In.

    Pinging atlas.vlist.eu [2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8] with
    32 bytes

    f data:
    Reply from 2001:1c02:1100:d700:6666:b3ff:fec4:fef8: time=348ms

    So there you go, it answers. ;-)

    C:\Offline>> ping -4 atlas.vlist.eu
    Ping request could not find host atlas.vlist.eu. Please check the name
    and try gain.

    Yep, no A record for atlas.vlist.eu.

    Yep, one day we'll see this sort of thing rapidly increase. My domains show this less, because there's a number of A records that point to either my router or one of the tunneled IPv4s for various purposes, while the AAAA records are more likely to point to individual hosts.


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Wed Aug 2 00:09:34 2017
    Hello David,

    As long as there is IP4 your stuff will still work.

    Even then, surely, as long as your router does IPv6 your stuff on your
    LAN
    will still work using NAT ...

    I am batting 0/10 on this IPv6 ready stuff. Ditto with
    most others in the USA. Why? Because most people here do
    not give a rat's cocktail about techie stuff. All they
    want is their stuff to work.

    Why won't my TV set work? Try plugging it in.

    Remember, these are the same folks who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    One does not have to understand how something works to be able to use it.

    All we need are paper ballots to cast a vote. But our leaders
    have dictated we use electronic voting machines. Which nobody has
    a clue as to how they work. Or if the vote is accurate.

    How many of us actually understand the inner workings of our computers yet we appear to be using them to communicate.

    Faith. You gotta have faith. At this time of year, all Saints
    fans do. At least for a few short weeks.

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Mon Aug 7 13:45:30 2017
    On 2/08/2017 8:09 AM, Lee Lofaso -> David Drummond wrote:

    Remember, these are the same folks who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    One does not have to understand how something works to be able to use it.

    All we need are paper ballots to cast a vote. But our leaders
    have dictated we use electronic voting machines. Which nobody has
    a clue as to how they work. Or if the vote is accurate.

    Don't vote - it just encourages the bastards!


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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:203/2 to David Drummond on Fri Aug 11 02:09:36 2017
    Hello David,

    Remember, these are the same folks who voted for Donald J. Trump.

    One does not have to understand how something works to be able DD>>to
    use it.

    All we need are paper ballots to cast a vote. But our leaders
    have dictated we use electronic voting machines. Which nobody has
    a clue as to how they work. Or if the vote is accurate.

    Don't vote - it just encourages the bastards!

    Half the Republican voters in this country want the next presidential
    election to be delayed until Donald Trump can fix it so that no more
    illegal votes can be counted. I mean, that was embarrassing last year.
    Trump got 8 million more votes than Clinton, but the news media showed
    Clinton as having received almost 3 million votes more than Trump.
    All those fake voters being allowed to have their ballots counted for
    Hillary and then the FBI director refusing to put her in jail ...

    --Lee

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  • From David Drummond@3:640/305 to Lee Lofaso on Fri Aug 11 16:55:16 2017
    On 11/08/2017 10:09 AM, Lee Lofaso -> David Drummond wrote:

    Don't vote - it just encourages the bastards!

    Half the Republican voters in this country want the next presidential election to be delayed until Donald Trump can fix it so that no more illegal votes can be counted. I mean, that was embarrassing last year. Trump got 8 million more votes than Clinton, but the news media showed Clinton as having received almost 3 million votes more than Trump.
    All those fake voters being allowed to have their ballots counted for Hillary and then the FBI director refusing to put her in jail ...

    I find it interesting that "illegal votes" are always cast for the "other side", never for "my side"...

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  • From Lee Lofaso@2:221/360 to David Drummond on Sat Aug 12 02:46:46 2017
    Hello David,

    Don't vote - it just encourages the bastards!

    Half the Republican voters in this country want the next presidential
    election to be delayed until Donald Trump can fix it so that no more
    illegal votes can be counted. I mean, that was embarrassing last year.
    Trump got 8 million more votes than Clinton, but the news media showed
    Clinton as having received almost 3 million votes more than Trump.
    All those fake voters being allowed to have their ballots counted for
    Hillary and then the FBI director refusing to put her in jail ...

    I find it interesting that "illegal votes" are always cast for the "other side", never for "my side"...

    And then there were the crowds on inauguration day. The largest
    in history. Or smallest. Depending on who was doing the counting.

    --Lee

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  • From Dale Shipp@1:261/1466 to Michiel Van Der Vlist on Thu Jul 27 01:04:00 2017
    On 07-26-17 12:46, Michiel Van Der Vlist <=-
    spoke to Bj”rn Felten about FidoNews 34:30 [02/08]: G <=-


    MVDV> Do any of the three do IPv6?

    I do not understand much about IPv6 versus IPv4 other than the fact that
    IPv4 is running (has run) out of available IP addresses and that IPv6
    greatly expands the number of possible IP addresses.

    That said, I wonder why you care that your TV does or does not have IPv6 ability?

    My TV set connects to my FIOS box and is assigned a *local* net IP
    address. It is only when it goes out over the internet that it gets a
    non local address, be that IPv4 or IPv6 -- depending on what the FIOS
    box is capable of. Ditto for all of the computers on my local net.

    Dale Shipp
    fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
    (1:261/1466)


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  • From Michiel van der Vlist@2:280/5555 to Dale Shipp on Fri Jul 28 00:21:32 2017
    Hello Dale,

    On Thursday July 27 2017 01:04, you wrote to me:

    MVDV>> Do any of the three do IPv6?

    I do not understand much about IPv6 versus IPv4 other than the fact
    that IPv4 is running (has run) out of available IP addresses and that
    IPv6 greatly expands the number of possible IP addresses.

    The pool of IPv4 adresses has been depleted five years ago for al intents and purposes. IPv6 solves that problem, but it does more. The address soace is large enough to assign every interface a unique address, doing away with NAT. The way the internet was originally designed. Greatly simplyfiyng network architexture.

    That said, I wonder why you care that your TV does or does not have
    IPv6 ability?

    Because we live in the 17th year of the 21st century. A networked device that that has an IPv4 only interface is like a car with no side mirror at the passenger side. It will get you from A to B and it may even still be legal in somes countries but it isn't state of the art.

    If I buy a TV in 2017, I expect 2017 state of the art technology. And for the most part it is. But not the "connected" part. To acces a steam from an IPv6 only server, one needs IPv6.

    My TV set connects to my FIOS box and is assigned a *local* net IP address. It is only when it goes out over the internet that it gets a
    non local address, be that IPv4 or IPv6 -- depending on what the FIOS
    box is capable of. Ditto for all of the computers on my local net.

    To access an IPv6 only server from a device everything in the chain must support IPv6 or be IP version agnostic. The modem, the router, the switches and
    the device itself. If your TV does not support IPv6 it can not play content from an IPv6 only server.


    Cheers, Michiel

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