• Re: Explorer filename sorting problem - NoStrCmpLogical already presen

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    Subject: Re: Explorer filename sorting problem - NoStrCmpLogical already present
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    On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:58:23 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
    Hello All,

    My file explorer seems to have trouble sorting filenames in an intuitive
    way. Just look at the below (listing generated using "dir /one 60.*", but the same order appears in Explorer)

    60.00.00.32.dds
    60.00.00.32.msh
    60.00.00.32.nif
    60.00.32.32.dds
    60.00.-32.32.dds
    60.00.32.32.msh
    60.00.-32.32.msh
    60.00.32.32.nif
    60.00.-32.32.nif

    I would expect the "60.00.-30.*" entries to come first, followed by the "60.00.00.*" and "60.00.32.*" groups.

    Some time ago (years probably :-) ) I've added the NoStrCmpLogical setting, and thought that it was fixed. But apperantly no such luck.

    Does anyone know what is going on here -- or better yet, how to fix it ?

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    NoStrCmpLogical is a policy setting for (Windows) Explorer only.
    CMD is never affected and will always use binary compare for sorting.

    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827>
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    Subject: Re: Explorer filename sorting problem - NoStrCmpLogical already present
    Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:35:50 +0200
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    JJ,

    NoStrCmpLogical is a policy setting for (Windows) Explorer only.

    Than is doubly remarkable that *both* show the same list ....

    CMD is never affected and will always use binary compare for sorting.

    Please, don't do that. You can see for yourself that it doesn't appear to
    do so. :-(

    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827>

    That page seems to have become outdated, as I was met with the (in)famous
    "Try searching for what you need. This page doesn't exist." error message.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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    JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> schreef in berichtnieuws 1f6vwnr37eok9.1jaqewr69jsjg$.dlg@40tude.net...
    On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:58:23 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
    Hello All,

    My file explorer seems to have trouble sorting filenames in an intuitive way. Just look at the below (listing generated using "dir /one 60.*",
    but
    the same order appears in Explorer)

    60.00.00.32.dds
    60.00.00.32.msh
    60.00.00.32.nif
    60.00.32.32.dds
    60.00.-32.32.dds
    60.00.32.32.msh
    60.00.-32.32.msh
    60.00.32.32.nif
    60.00.-32.32.nif

    I would expect the "60.00.-30.*" entries to come first, followed by the "60.00.00.*" and "60.00.32.*" groups.

    Some time ago (years probably :-) ) I've added the NoStrCmpLogical
    setting,
    and thought that it was fixed. But apperantly no such luck.

    Does anyone know what is going on here -- or better yet, how to fix it ?

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    NoStrCmpLogical is a policy setting for (Windows) Explorer only.
    CMD is never affected and will always use binary compare for sorting.

    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827>

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    Subject: Re: Explorer filename sorting problem - NoStrCmpLogical already present
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    On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:35:50 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
    JJ,

    NoStrCmpLogical is a policy setting for (Windows) Explorer only.

    Than is doubly remarkable that *both* show the same list ....

    CMD is never affected and will always use binary compare for sorting.

    Please, don't do that. You can see for yourself that it doesn't appear to
    do so. :-(

    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827>

    That page seems to have become outdated, as I was met with the (in)famous "Try searching for what you need. This page doesn't exist." error message.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

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    JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> schreef in berichtnieuws 1f6vwnr37eok9.1jaqewr69jsjg$.dlg@40tude.net...
    On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:58:23 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
    Hello All,

    My file explorer seems to have trouble sorting filenames in an intuitive >>> way. Just look at the below (listing generated using "dir /one 60.*",
    but
    the same order appears in Explorer)

    60.00.00.32.dds
    60.00.00.32.msh
    60.00.00.32.nif
    60.00.32.32.dds
    60.00.-32.32.dds
    60.00.32.32.msh
    60.00.-32.32.msh
    60.00.32.32.nif
    60.00.-32.32.nif

    I would expect the "60.00.-30.*" entries to come first, followed by the
    "60.00.00.*" and "60.00.32.*" groups.

    Some time ago (years probably :-) ) I've added the NoStrCmpLogical
    setting,
    and thought that it was fixed. But apperantly no such luck.

    Does anyone know what is going on here -- or better yet, how to fix it ? >>>
    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    See the cached page from Google using below Google search query:

    cache:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827

    Or use web archive.
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    Subject: Re: Explorer filename sorting problem - NoStrCmpLogical already present
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    JJ,

    See the cached page from Google using below Google search query:

    cache:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827

    Thanks, I can see the page now. Alas, it only describes the usage of NoStrCmpLogical, which I have already applied.

    Disabeling the setting and re-enabeling it (on both HKCU and HKLM brances)
    does not seem to change anything on that folder.

    And a funny thing is that it seems to do the same on the second column as it does (as shown) on the third column. Almost as if it starts to sort on extension first, only than on the filename. But that shows not to be the
    case, as the first column is sorted in order (have more than just those 60.* files). Rather odd.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser


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    JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> schreef in berichtnieuws 114gd4iaipkfp.ba50up4m8pmp.dlg@40tude.net...
    On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 10:35:50 +0200, R.Wieser wrote:
    JJ,

    NoStrCmpLogical is a policy setting for (Windows) Explorer only.

    Than is doubly remarkable that *both* show the same list ....

    CMD is never affected and will always use binary compare for sorting.

    Please, don't do that. You can see for yourself that it doesn't appear
    to
    do so. :-(

    <https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827>

    That page seems to have become outdated, as I was met with the
    (in)famous
    "Try searching for what you need. This page doesn't exist." error
    message.

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    -- Origional message:
    JJ <jj4public@vfemail.net> schreef in berichtnieuws 1f6vwnr37eok9.1jaqewr69jsjg$.dlg@40tude.net...
    On Sat, 26 Mar 2016 19:58:23 +0100, R.Wieser wrote:
    Hello All,

    My file explorer seems to have trouble sorting filenames in an
    intuitive
    way. Just look at the below (listing generated using "dir /one 60.*",
    but
    the same order appears in Explorer)

    60.00.00.32.dds
    60.00.00.32.msh
    60.00.00.32.nif
    60.00.32.32.dds
    60.00.-32.32.dds
    60.00.32.32.msh
    60.00.-32.32.msh
    60.00.32.32.nif
    60.00.-32.32.nif

    I would expect the "60.00.-30.*" entries to come first, followed by
    the
    "60.00.00.*" and "60.00.32.*" groups.

    Some time ago (years probably :-) ) I've added the NoStrCmpLogical
    setting,
    and thought that it was fixed. But apperantly no such luck.

    Does anyone know what is going on here -- or better yet, how to fix it
    ?

    Regards,
    Rudy Wieser

    See the cached page from Google using below Google search query:

    cache:https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/319827

    Or use web archive.

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