• Conception Issues

    From Daryl Stout@1:2320/100 to Nancy Backus on Sun Feb 8 12:56:02 2015
    Nancy...

    Sorry about the one kid thing, if you were hoping to have more.

    Thanks. We did try, very unsuccessfully, for a long time... it just NB>wasn't going to happen, and it turned out that having even the one was a NB>bit of a fluke, or miracle, if you will... :)

    One of my cousins was in a similar situation. She and her husband
    tried for years to conceive a child; but she either miscarried, or
    never conceived. After several years, they adopted a young child...and
    shortly after that, lo and behold, she got pregnant, and now they have 2 kids...the adopted one, and the one conceived naturally, as it were.

    Everyone's system is different, male and female (obviously), and
    ferility issues can happen to both sexes.

    I found out the other day that another individual was in a similar
    situation that I was 35 years ago...we both contracted the chicken pox
    as adults (and not as kids), and the effects were far worse. A childhood disease in an adult will either sterilize them, kill them, or something
    else. I caught it from my brother, who caught it from his first wife's
    kids. He had a relatively mild case by comparison to what I had.

    My case was "the worst that the doctor had ever seen". It put me in
    the hospital for a week, and out of work at the local Burger King
    (across the street from where I was attending to college), and out of
    college for 2 months, by order of the State Health Department. They put
    me in isolation, as they thought I was going into encephalitis...people
    coming to visit me had to put on protective gear, as if I was "radioactive"...well, I guess I could've been considered a "biohazard".

    It was like someone had dropped me in a vat of itching powder...and,
    even the Water Pik pulsating shower massage didn't help. Top to bottom,
    front to back (including the genitals and buttocks), I was COVERED in
    the pox. I had to take the darn slimy oatmeal baths for a week. :P

    Then, after working around nasty solvents like methyl-ehtyl-ketone for
    nearly 20 years, that about sealed the deal with a very low sperm count,
    and I was concerned that it could also lead to deformities. So, I "had
    my wings clipped" before I got married...and as my late wife, Janice,
    noted "they wouldn't spay me, so he volunteered to get neutered". :P

    But, the way the world is nowadays...along with the disobedient and
    insolent nature of so many kids...I'm glad I'll never be able to father
    a child. Indeed, the resident manager at the apartment complex where I
    live said "You are so lucky you don't have kids"...apparently hers are
    "a terror".

    The ONE EXCEPTION I saw to kids behavior is with the Duggar family
    (Jim Bob, and his wife Michelle). They have had at least 19 kids, and
    now have grandchildren. When he goes impotent, or she goes into
    menopause, she is going to be a basket case!! But, from what I've seen,
    all of their children are VERY WELL BEHAVED...and that's more the
    exception than the rule nowadays. They properly discipline their kids,
    and that's probably why the kids are so "good".

    I got my share of spankings growing up, and I don't consider myself mal-adjusted. And, this talk of "you can't spank your kids, as it'll
    ruin their self esteem", is garbage...pure and simple.

    Daryl

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:2320/100 to Daryl Stout on Wed Feb 11 21:23:02 2015
    Quoting Daryl Stout to Nancy Backus on 02-08-15 12:48 <=-

    Sorry about the one kid thing, if you were hoping to have more.
    Thanks. We did try, very unsuccessfully, for a long time... it just
    wasn't going to happen, and it turned out that having even the one
    was a bit of a fluke, or miracle, if you will... :)

    One of my cousins was in a similar situation. She and her husband
    tried for years to conceive a child; but she either miscarried, or
    never conceived. After several years, they adopted a young child...and shortly after that, lo and behold, she got pregnant, and now they have
    2 kids...the adopted one, and the one conceived naturally, as it were.

    We had the first right away, early even... and then no more. But I've
    heard of many instances where after adopting, infertile couples were
    able to have their own natural child after all... my aunt was one of
    those... they adopted their first, and then had two more naturally..

    Everyone's system is different, male and female (obviously), and
    ferility issues can happen to both sexes.

    Very true.

    I found out the other day that another individual was in a similar situation that I was 35 years ago...we both contracted the chicken pox
    as adults (and not as kids), and the effects were far worse. A
    childhood disease in an adult will either sterilize them, kill them, or something else. I caught it from my brother, who caught it from his
    first wife's kids. He had a relatively mild case by comparison to what
    I had.

    Adults do generally have worse cases than children... but many of them
    do recover just fine without lasting effect...

    My case was "the worst that the doctor had ever seen". It put me in
    the hospital for a week, and out of work at the local Burger King
    (across the street from where I was attending to college), and out of college for 2 months, by order of the State Health Department. They
    put me in isolation, as they thought I was going into encephalitis... people coming to visit me had to put on protective gear, as if I was "radioactive"...well, I guess I could've been considered a "biohazard".

    I'd guess that the isolation was a two-pronged thing... both to protect
    you from getting anything else that would complicate things even worse,
    and to protect others from getting infected from you.

    Then, after working around nasty solvents like methyl-ehtyl-ketone
    for nearly 20 years, that about sealed the deal with a very low sperm count, and I was concerned that it could also lead to deformities. So,
    I "had my wings clipped" before I got married...and as my late wife, Janice, noted "they wouldn't spay me, so he volunteered to get
    neutered". :P

    She did have quite the sense of humor, didn't she... :) You might not
    have had any real problems if you'd had kids, but I can see not wanting
    to take that chance, given the circumstances... :)

    But, the way the world is nowadays...along with the disobedient and insolent nature of so many kids...I'm glad I'll never be able to
    father a child. Indeed, the resident manager at the apartment complex where I live said "You are so lucky you don't have kids"...apparently
    hers are "a terror".

    I'd guess she let them get out of hand earlier... Most kids I know well
    are reasonably well-behaved... but then their parents have done what
    they could to make that be the case, from early on... :)

    The ONE EXCEPTION I saw to kids behavior is with the Duggar family
    (Jim Bob, and his wife Michelle). They have had at least 19 kids, and
    now have grandchildren. When he goes impotent, or she goes into
    menopause, she is going to be a basket case!! But, from what I've
    seen, all of their children are VERY WELL BEHAVED...and that's more the exception than the rule nowadays. They properly discipline their kids,
    and that's probably why the kids are so "good".

    Discipline and teaching are important... and learning to take on
    responsibility at a young age... :)

    I got my share of spankings growing up, and I don't consider myself mal-adjusted. And, this talk of "you can't spank your kids, as it'll
    ruin their self esteem", is garbage...pure and simple.

    There is, of course, an often thin line between spanking and abuse...
    and some parents do cross over that... but it's just as abusive and
    neglectful in the long run to allow a child to have his/her own way
    without any discipline... a well-planted swat goes a long way... :)

    ttyl neb

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