• Tumble weed.....

    From Nick Mackechnie@3:772/210 to All on Thu Jun 14 21:38:00 2018
    Hi All,

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Nick.

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  • From Alan Ianson@1:153/757 to Nick Mackechnie on Thu Jun 14 03:50:00 2018
    Re: Tumble weed.....
    By: Nick Mackechnie to All on Thu Jun 14 2018 09:38 pm

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Not much going on.. here in the echo, or here in New Zealand? ;)

    Ttyl :-),
    Al


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  • From Nick Mackechnie@3:772/210 to Alan Ianson on Fri Jun 15 09:33:00 2018
    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Not much going on.. here in the echo, or here in New Zealand? ;)

    Plenty here... like you in Canada, let's keep it quiet, Trump may visit :-)

    Nick

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  • From Phil Kimble@1:128/2 to Nick Mackechnie on Thu Jun 14 21:48:02 2018
    Hi Nick,

    Hi All,

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Same here. Is New Zealand moving into winter now? Such a beautiful spot on te globe.

    Phil

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  • From Paul Hayton@3:770/100 to Nick Mackechnie on Sat Jun 16 11:34:07 2018
    On 06/14/18, Nick Mackechnie pondered and said...

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Well the lower, lower South Island is still intact :)

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Nick Mackechnie on Thu Jun 14 13:42:06 2018
    Hello Nick,

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    It has it's moments. Now and then. :-)


    Jeff

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  • From Nick Mackechnie@3:772/210 to Phil Kimble on Sat Jun 16 12:31:00 2018
    Hi Nick,

    Hi All,

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Same here. Is New Zealand moving into winter now? Such a beautiful spot on
    te
    globe.

    Sure is.. we are a week or so away from the shortest day. Have you visited here? I've been to Vancouver a few times :-)

    Nick

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  • From Nick Mackechnie@3:772/210 to Paul Hayton on Sat Jun 16 12:32:00 2018
    On 06/14/18, Nick Mackechnie pondered and said...

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    Well the lower, lower South Island is still intact :)

    We'll be down your way next weekend for the Rugby Test :-)

    Nick.

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Nick Mackechnie on Sat Jun 16 16:23:30 2018
    Quoting Nick Mackechnie to All on 14-Jun-2018 21:38 <=-

    Hi All,

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    It's a quiet echo... apparently there's less need for support than
    there's been in the past.... or guys are getting it elsewhere... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nick Mackechnie@3:772/210 to Nancy Backus on Sun Jun 17 20:06:00 2018
    It's a quiet echo... apparently there's less need for support than
    there's been in the past.... or guys are getting it elsewhere... :)

    Hiya,

    Maybe ..... I'm not sold :-) The world doesnt seem a whole bunch different
    in the last year, arguably, you could say in some respects it's gone
    backwards.

    Nick

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Nancy Backus on Sun Jun 17 16:09:54 2018
    Hello Nancy,

    Well not alot going on here - Greetings from New Zealand.

    It's a quiet echo... apparently there's less need for support than
    there's been in the past.... or guys are getting it elsewhere... :)

    I would think that the need for support would at least equal if not surpass the
    need for support in the past. On weekends I help facilitate a local men's support group and the group(s) are usually quite full. We have added extra group sessions during the week to help those that need the support.


    Jeff

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Nick Mackechnie on Sat Jun 23 19:52:40 2018
    Quoting Nick Mackechnie to Nancy Backus on 17-Jun-2018 20:06 <=-

    It's a quiet echo... apparently there's less need for support than
    there's been in the past.... or guys are getting it elsewhere... :)

    Maybe ..... I'm not sold :-) The world doesnt seem a whole bunch
    different in the last year, arguably, you could say in some respects
    it's gone backwards.

    To be honest, my best guess really was that support is being (hopefully)
    found elsewhere... I've also noticed that things really haven't changed
    for the better, as well... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Jeff Smith on Sat Jun 23 20:14:12 2018
    Quoting Jeff Smith to Nancy Backus on 17-Jun-2018 16:09 <=-

    It's a quiet echo... apparently there's less need for support than
    there's been in the past.... or guys are getting it elsewhere... :)

    I would think that the need for support would at least equal if not surpass the need for support in the past. On weekends I help
    facilitate a local men's support group and the group(s) are usually
    quite full. We have added extra group sessions during the week to
    help those that need the support.

    Which, as I told Nick, is more what I really expect to be the case...
    it's just much quieter here in the echo than it's been in the past... ;)
    It's good that you can be of help locally... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Nancy Backus on Sun Jun 24 06:27:40 2018
    Hello Nancy,

    Which, as I told Nick, is more what I really expect to be the case...
    it's just much quieter here in the echo than it's been in the past... ;)
    It's good that you can be of help locally... :)

    As I tell the guys in the group. We are not there to offer therapy or to suggest what someone should do. We are there to help support the guys in the decisions that they make to better themselves and move forward.

    I think sometimes it is hard for people to come forward and acknowledge what feelings they might have regarding being a dad and what their situation might actually be. I know from personal experience that guys sometimes are reluctant
    to admit a situation. I know I have felt that way in the past regarding being a
    dad.


    Jeff

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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JEFF SMITH on Tue Jun 26 21:01:00 2018
    Quoting Jeff Smith to Nancy Backus on 06-24-18 06:33 <=-

    Which, as I told Nick, is more what I really expect to be the case...
    it's just much quieter here in the echo than it's been in the past... ;) It's good that you can be of help locally... :)

    As I tell the guys in the group. We are not there to offer therapy or
    to suggest what someone should do. We are there to help support the
    guys in the decisions that they make to better themselves and move forward.

    And that's the whole idea behind a support group... you are there with
    others with a similar situation, so no one needs to feel alone in
    dealing with it all... :)

    I think sometimes it is hard for people to come forward and
    acknowledge what feelings they might have regarding being a dad and
    what their situation might actually be. I know from personal
    experience that guys sometimes are reluctant to admit a situation. I
    know I have felt that way in the past regarding being a dad.

    While women do tend to be more vocal about such things, sometimes it's
    hard for us to open up to the deeper stuff, too, unless we really feel
    safe with the ones around us.... Support is a very good thing... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Jeff Smith@1:282/1031 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jun 27 03:36:32 2018
    Hello Nancy,

    Quoting Jeff Smith to Nancy Backus on 06-24-18 06:33 <=-

    And that's the whole idea behind a support group... you are there with
    others with a similar situation, so no one needs to feel alone in
    dealing with it all... :)

    Agreed. The ability to feel that you are not alone and that one is among others who have a bases of understanding one's feelings.

    I think sometimes it is hard for people to come forward and
    acknowledge what feelings they might have regarding being a dad and
    what their situation might actually be. I know from personal
    experience that guys sometimes are reluctant to admit a situation. I
    know I have felt that way in the past regarding being a dad.

    While women do tend to be more vocal about such things, sometimes it's
    hard for us to open up to the deeper stuff, too, unless we really feel
    safe with the ones around us.... Support is a very good thing... :)

    Safe, security, and trust all play an important part. That is why we have a rule that what is said in group stays in group. The subject of being a dad is not an uncommon topic in group. :-)

    Jeff




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  • From NANCY BACKUS@1:123/140 to JEFF SMITH on Mon Jul 2 14:29:00 2018
    Quoting Jeff Smith to Nancy Backus on 06-27-18 03:42 <=-

    And that's the whole idea behind a support group... you are there with others with a similar situation, so no one needs to feel alone in
    dealing with it all... :)

    Agreed. The ability to feel that you are not alone and that one is
    among others who have a bases of understanding one's feelings.

    Exactly.

    I think sometimes it is hard for people to come forward and
    acknowledge what feelings they might have regarding being a dad and
    what their situation might actually be. I know from personal
    experience that guys sometimes are reluctant to admit a situation. I
    know I have felt that way in the past regarding being a dad.
    While women do tend to be more vocal about such things, sometimes it's
    hard for us to open up to the deeper stuff, too, unless we really feel
    safe with the ones around us.... Support is a very good thing... :)

    Safe, security, and trust all play an important part. That is why we
    have a rule that what is said in group stays in group. The subject of being a dad is not an uncommon topic in group. :-)

    Quite understandable... :) Lots bound up in being a parent, whether as
    part of a couple, on one's own as a single, or having to parent mostly
    at a distance.... :) And lots of support needed to carry it off... :)

    ttyl neb

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