Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 24-Jul-2015 13:15 <=-

Re: Shinies and not-so shiny was: shinies and sickies

I'm sorta testing a theory... that something might be thinking that
some replies are dupes, despite the different dates and all...
possibly in response to the opposite problem in A_L, where messages
come back as dupes with only the time-date changed... all very
weird... ;) So I'm changing the subject lines for all of them now...

I've been wondering about that a little bit myself, lately. I'm
glad you've decided to get the initiative to test it out. :) Let's
see what happens.

So far, so good... I think...

I was always a very fast reader, so I'd get through a book in a day or
so, often less... Books got to be a little less of a shiny when my eyes
started giving me problems... sigh... ;)

Me too. I just lost the ability to do it for pleasure in college.
It's slowly coming back, but not as quickly as I'd like. Maybe I need
to sever myself from the electronic teat here a little bit, as well.

Probably wouldn't hurt... ;) I never stopped reading for pleasure, but
I just can't read for as long or as fast... especially when my eyes get tired...

True... one starts to see that some things just aren't really as shiny
as they appear, when necessities by necessity trump them... <G> Like
my son discovering that he could spend the same amount of money on
snacky foods for a day or real food for two weeks... and the money in
hand had to last him until the next small paycheck, in two weeks... ;)
He called me from college to report that fact, and his very wise
decision to go with the real food... ;) That was a couple of decades
ago now, but the lesson seems to have stuck, mostly... ;)

A good example. I'm looking very much forward to [hopefully] seeing
ones like that from my own little man here. He's already showed some remarkable discretion in being able to decide when it's a good idea to splurge on the junk food or save and get something a few notches
higher. I didn't really expect to see that at 8.

He's had a bit more in-your-face experience on learning that than my son
had at that age, I'd guess... :)

Guess so. ;) Hopefully it won't be too bad, and you'll be able to
just find areas that she could edit some to make them better... And if
you're really lucky, it'll be good, and you'll be able to tell her so. :)

I'm hoping so. I finally got through the first 10 pages early last night. I'm going to try to make a goal of getting through at least 20 pages a night until I'm done. So far the writing is pretty friggin' good. Reminds me a little bit of Peter Straub.

Sounds promising... :)

Hopefully it will all work out properly in the end... maybe even
already... Sounds like someone isn't particularly meticulous with
keeping accounts....

Yeah... Well the paperwork is coming to us separately now, so I'm
not going to be losing money like that again.

That sounds better. :)

Not just buddhist... :) Material things aren't permanent just by their
nature...

Well Buddhism is just a philosophy for desribing the world and how
to be the best person you can be throughout that. It's not a religion. One might say, though, that all is Buddhism, just as all is Physics,
and start a great religious war that way. ;)

One can start a religous war over just about anything... ;) And there
are a lot of different thought systems to (try to) explain the
universe... ;)

ttyl neb

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Re: Re: Shinies and not-so shiny
By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Thu Jul 30 2015 21:39:24

Probably wouldn't hurt... ;) I never stopped reading for pleasure, but
I just can't read for as long or as fast... especially when my eyes get tired...

Yeah to be honest I completely forgot about working on trying to get into that habit again after the first night. Which sucks, because I've got a few library books here, that manuscript from my mom, and a few others on a queue that I can't dissuade my roommate from putting together for me.

He's had a bit more in-your-face experience on learning that than my son had at that age, I'd guess... :)

He's had a lot of it. The kid is ahead of his time, but I think we all know some of the losses that all too often accompany that.

20 pages a night until I'm done. So far the writing is pretty
friggin' good. Reminds me a little bit of Peter Straub.

Sounds promising... :)

It was that first night. Then the manuscript disappeared into the disorganization here. I'm gonna try to get another shot at it tonight after I finish up this email and make sure that it's laying out somewhere where I can see it before I crash out tonight. ;)

Yeah... Well the paperwork is coming to us separately now, so I'm
not going to be losing money like that again.

That sounds better. :)

Burn me once, shame on you, burn me twice, shame on me... Basically what my tattoo about relationships says, though its third clause makes the pyre optional.

One can start a religous war over just about anything... ;) And there
are a lot of different thought systems to (try to) explain the
universe... ;)

It's a damn shame people can't just find the ones that help them to be the best, most peaceful and accepting people that they can, and stop giving a crap about the systems that are working for each other. ;) My own belief system is
that a lot of those systems are used for manipulation too much for that to be possible, but a man can dream. Soooo much wasted on warfare that we could feed
the world HOW many times over?

-D
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Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 04-Aug-2015 16:31 <=-

Probably wouldn't hurt... ;) I never stopped reading for pleasure,
but I just can't read for as long or as fast... especially when my
eyes get tired...

Yeah to be honest I completely forgot about working on trying to get
into that habit again after the first night. Which sucks, because I've got a few library books here, that manuscript from my mom, and a few others on a queue that I can't dissuade my roommate from putting
together for me.

Sounds like it's time to get reading again... :) At least a little...
to nibble away at the pile... :)

He's had a bit more in-your-face experience on learning that than my
son had at that age, I'd guess... :)

He's had a lot of it. The kid is ahead of his time, but I think we
all know some of the losses that all too often accompany that.

He'll be ok... :) He's in a position now to be able to learn the more
normal things that might have gone by the wayside before... :)

20 pages a night until I'm done. So far the writing is pretty
friggin' good. Reminds me a little bit of Peter Straub.

Sounds promising... :)

It was that first night. Then the manuscript disappeared into the disorganization here. I'm gonna try to get another shot at it tonight after I finish up this email and make sure that it's laying out
somewhere where I can see it before I crash out tonight. ;)

And did that work...? ;) Sounds like a worthy project, and not too
likely to be a disappointment... :)

One can start a religous war over just about anything... ;) And
there are a lot of different thought systems to (try to) explain
the universe... ;)

It's a damn shame people can't just find the ones that help them to
be the best, most peaceful and accepting people that they can, and stop giving a crap about the systems that are working for each other. ;)
My own belief system is that a lot of those systems are used for manipulation too much for that to be possible, but a man can dream. Soooo much wasted on warfare that we could feed the world HOW many
times over?

It's a fallen world... not what it should be.... nor how originally God intended it to be...

ttyl neb

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Re: Shinies and not-so shiny
By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Thu Aug 06 2015 18:06:04

Sounds like it's time to get reading again... :) At least a little...
to nibble away at the pile... :)

It definitely is. I've got another book waiting for me at the library again now, too. I'm getting ready to do some in just a little bit here. :)

He'll be ok... :) He's in a position now to be able to learn the more normal things that might have gone by the wayside before... :)

Absolutely. He may've been exposed to a bit more than I would like him to have been, but he's wicked smart because of it. In a lot of ways I wish that would've gotten some of the experience that he has already; would've saved me world of hurt. Though, of course, there will be blindspots I missed that will broadside both him and myself. I don't think parenting comes without that, usually. Tell me if I'm wrong, though; I'd love to be able to do a perfect job.

And did that work...? ;) Sounds like a worthy project, and not too likely to be a disappointment... :)

Wait wut. Was that about the reading?

One can start a religous war over just about anything... ;) And
there are a lot of different thought systems to (try to) explain
the universe... ;)

It's a fallen world... not what it should be.... nor how originally God intended it to be...

Wait a second... Is that some tongue in cheek there? ;)

-D
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Nancy,

It's a fallen world... not what it should be.... nor how originally God NB>intended it to be...

And, sadly, it's getting worse every day.

Daryl

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Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 15-Aug-2015 19:10 <=-

Sounds like it's time to get reading again... :) At least a little...
to nibble away at the pile... :)

It definitely is. I've got another book waiting for me at the
library again now, too. I'm getting ready to do some in just a little bit here. :)

Good for you. :)

He'll be ok... :) He's in a position now to be able to learn the more
normal things that might have gone by the wayside before... :)

Absolutely. He may've been exposed to a bit more than I would like
him to have been, but he's wicked smart because of it. In a lot of
ways I wish that I would've gotten some of the experience that he has already; would've saved me a world of hurt. Though, of course, there will be blindspots I missed that will broadside both him and myself. I don't think parenting comes without that, usually. Tell me if I'm
wrong, though; I'd love to be able to do a perfect job.

Always blindspots one misses... hopefully they don't broadside... ;)
You'll not do a perfect job, no one can, but you'll probably do a quite passable one.. :) It's the most any of us can hope for... and no
matter how close to perfect a job one does, it's still no guarantee that
the kid turns out as we hope... but sometimes they turn out far better
than we hope, too... :)

And did that work...? ;) Sounds like a worthy project, and not too
likely to be a disappointment... :)

Wait wut. Was that about the reading?

I think that was about reading your mom's manuscript... :)

One can start a religous war over just about anything... ;) And
there are a lot of different thought systems to (try to) explain
the universe... ;)

It's a fallen world... not what it should be.... nor how originally God
intended it to be...

Wait a second... Is that some tongue in cheek there? ;)

Not really... just the way I keep things in perspective... the first
bit, though, is a bit tongue in cheek, sorta... :)

ttyl neb

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Re: Shinies and not-so shiny
By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Sat Aug 29 2015 19:28:36

Always blindspots one misses... hopefully they don't broadside... ;) You'll not do a perfect job, no one can, but you'll probably do a quite passable one.. :) It's the most any of us can hope for... and no
matter how close to perfect a job one does, it's still no guarantee that the kid turns out as we hope... but sometimes they turn out far better than we hope, too... :)

No way I'm gonna be perfect. ;) Seriously, though, I think I'm pretty good at seeing some of the areas where I dont do perfect. I'm always trying to do little bit better, so I can at least say I'm improving. Not that I wouldn't benefit from more feedback on what I'm not necessarily doing right at any one time, of course. It's always helpful to get those blindspots pointed out. How
else is one better to improve the issues that don't come in to focus with only one's self?

I think that was about reading your mom's manuscript... :)

Oh yeah. That is on my 'next to read' pile at the very top, still. The problem that I've found with my current arrangements is that I've only got the 1 room to work with here (the living room, even). There is a chair to sit at for the computer and a couch which I use as a bed, alternating, with a futon, so that neither I nor my son get too bad of back issues from it. The chair is an office chair, and not really the best for reading. So, if I try to go over to the couch and read, I inevitably get drowsy due to my habituation of that point being for sleep primarily. I even have that with movies now, if I try to
watch them over there. It's horribly inconvenient. I should take advantage of
a few of the days that are still decent before it starts the constant winter downpour here and try to get outside to a park to go through it or something, probably.

Not really... just the way I keep things in perspective... the first
bit, though, is a bit tongue in cheek, sorta... :)

Oh I'm sorry. That was remarkably callous of me. I must've read that part with a lower-case 'g'. My apologies if my misunderstanding caused any offense.
I'm used to a circle of friends where the closest people to straight-up christianity are people who go to a non-denominational church in order to help the spiritual and moral lessons, but don't really believe in 'God' (capital G).
Being former cult kid and a secular Buddhist, I miss and cause offense now and then. I certainly don't believe that we're anywhere near to the Earth being stewarded to our full human potential (if we were all one with our Buddha- selves), either. ;)
Best wishes and moar soon, of course. :)

-D
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Quoting Damon A. Getsman to Nancy Backus on 28-Sep-2015 16:45 <=-

By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Sat Aug 29 2015 19:28:36

No way I'm gonna be perfect. ;) Seriously, though, I think I'm
pretty good at seeing some of the areas where I dont do perfect. I'm always trying to do a little bit better, so I can at least say I'm improving. Not that I wouldn't benefit from more feedback on what I'm not necessarily doing right at any one time, of course. It's always helpful to get those blindspots pointed out. How else is one better to improve the issues that don't come in to focus with only one's self?

Quite so. :) Best we can do is try our best, and try to improve where
we find deficiencies, whether we find them ourselves or have them
pointed out to us.... :)

I think that was about reading your mom's manuscript... :)

Oh yeah. That is on my 'next to read' pile at the very top, still.

As long as you get to it before she starts asking for feedback.... <G>

The problem that I've found with my current arrangements is that I've only got the 1 room to work with here (the living room, even). There
is a chair to sit at for the computer and a couch which I use as a bed, alternating, with a futon, so that neither I nor my son get too bad of back issues from it. The chair is an office chair, and not really the best for reading. So, if I try to go over to the couch and read, I inevitably get drowsy due to my habituation of that point being for
sleep primarily. I even have that with movies now, if I try to watch them over there. It's horribly inconvenient.

Sigh... Probably no room to get a beanbag chair in there, for reading
and movie watching... ;)

I should take advantage of a few of the days that are still decent
before it starts the constant winter downpour here and try to get
outside to a park to go through it or something, probably.

Now that's an idea.... or maybe go to the library...??

Not really... just the way I keep things in perspective... the first
bit, though, is a bit tongue in cheek, sorta... :)

Oh I'm sorry. That was remarkably callous of me. I must've read
that part with a lower-case 'g'. My apologies if my misunderstanding caused any offense.

No offense taken... I don't expect everyone to have the same perspective
as mine, but I also don't mind sharing my perspective... :)

I'm used to a circle of friends where the closest people to
straight-up christianity are people who go to a non-denominational
church in order to help the spiritual and moral lessons, but don't
really believe in 'God' (capital G). Being former cult kid and a
secular Buddhist, I miss and cause offense now and then.

As long as you don't take offense at my being open with my faith, we
should be fine... :)

I certainly don't believe that we're anywhere near to the Earth being stewarded to our full human potential (if we were all one with our Buddha- selves), either. ;)

Yup... we don't even always do all that we are capable of even in our
not fully realized state.... with or without God... :)

ttyl neb

... The abnormal fear of giants is Fee-fie-fo-bia

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Re: Re: Shinies and not-so shiny
By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Thu Oct 01 2015 19:06:26

Quite so. :) Best we can do is try our best, and try to improve where
we find deficiencies, whether we find them ourselves or have them
pointed out to us.... :)

That is, actually, the basal requirement in my standards when I'm considering anybody for a relationship more than just casual passing friends. I really don't care where exactly a person is at as far as they're trying to get to some
place better, as a person. Well, there are certainly some people trying to better themselves that are in places where I wouldn't go with a ten foot pole, but I'm sure you catch my gist. ;)

As long as you get to it before she starts asking for feedback.... <G>

Oh that happened well over a year ago, when I was still back in Minot, actually. I don't think she's going to ask for it again. I'm getting my feet wet in getting outside to take care of things I can't do in the apartment now, at least, so I should be hitting that very soon. Just as soon as I'm caught up
with my paper journaling, I suspect.

Sigh... Probably no room to get a beanbag chair in there, for reading
and movie watching... ;)

Funny you should mention that... My son had a bright pink one that he absolutely loved for the longest time.. We just had to get rid of it because one of the cats decided that it was too valuable of property to pass up. There
actually is enough space for something like that, though. It just requires cleaning the bedding off of the futon and folding that up. I hadn't really thought about that, it's a good idea. I'll see if I can't come up with something or maybe find out how much a cheap beanbag may run. I'm thinking more for reading, but I do have some movies that I need to catch up on along with my son, too. Utilizing the space in that way brings a bunch of new potential to the situation.

Now that's an idea.... or maybe go to the library...??

Well I've got to go return some books from my son's account within 3 days here, so that will be happening soon. The coffee shop idea worked very nicely for me today, though. There's a place that I can walk to less than 4 blocks away and I really like the atmosphere there. I suspect I'll be spending more time in that place soon.

No offense taken... I don't expect everyone to have the same perspective as mine, but I also don't mind sharing my perspective... :)

Ditto that. :)

As long as you don't take offense at my being open with my faith, we should be fine... :)

I enjoy discussion on all kinds of topics, and some of the ones that people consider taboo can be some of the most interesting, when it's undertaken with understanding, curiosity, and consideration. Usually I have spotted the ones that it's not safe to engage in discussion with on such topics quite a ways away. You seem safe to me. :)

Yup... we don't even always do all that we are capable of even in our
not fully realized state.... with or without God... :)

Got that right.
Moar soon. :)

-D
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Re: Re: Shinies and not-so shiny
By: Nancy Backus to Damon A. Getsman on Sat Oct 17 2015 18:53:52

Ah, so when you get a chance to finally read it completely, and then a chance to actually talk to her about it, she can be pleasantly surprised that you actually followed through on it... ;)

That is the plan, yes. :)

Should help break the deadlock of not being able to do stuff... ;)

There's also a deadlock of intertial horror from the amount of crap in such small space here, too, though. Still working on that [more internal] block at this point.

Good... That's a good thing to have found... should help on more than
one level... :)

Absolutely. I'm looking forward to heading there tomorrow. :)

Then we should get along fine.. :) I may not be totally "safe", but I
do try to be gentle in disagreement... ;)

Safeword time! *laugh*

-D
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