• Mesh-like topology for BBS network

    From Tristan B. Kildaire@1:19/25 to A on Wed Nov 16 07:57:10 2016
    I was thinking of setting up a BBS network but in a decentralized way by using a mesh topology between the hubs where hub A exchanges with both hub B and C and C exchanges with B and A and B exchanges with C and A. If you see what I mean. Contrary to what is done with BBS hubs like FidoNet where there is a hierarchical topology where hub C speaks to hub B which in turn speaks to hub A (main hub) -- If I am correct.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tristan B. Kildaire on Wed Nov 16 10:06:24 2016

    16 Nov 16 07:57, you wrote to A:

    I was thinking of setting up a BBS network but in a decentralized way
    by using a mesh topology between the hubs where hub A exchanges with
    both hub B and C and C exchanges with B and A and B exchanges with C
    and A. If you see what I mean. Contrary to what is done with BBS hubs
    like FidoNet where there is a hierarchical topology where hub C speaks
    to hub B which in turn speaks to hub A (main hub) -- If I am correct.

    most distribution is/was to and from a mesh... specifically a three hub mesh...
    at one time there was another distribution system that had more than three hubs
    meshed... all of them were intermeshed and they fed second level hubs which then fed leaf nodes and third level hubs... this other distribution system was also connected to the three hub mesh by a common system... that common system caught all the dupes... then there was a third distribution system that came along... i don't recall its structure but it was also linked to the other two by that same common system...

    one of the other things that has happened in fidonet is that some folks decided
    to go intermeshed between nodes and there is no real hubs... that's all fine and good as it has finally been realized that anyone can get a connection from anywhere they can set up an agreement... unfortunately it also blows moderator control away where moderators cannot call for feed cuts to disconnect unruly systems... anyway, not all of those systems are fully meshed... the only real goal is for one to have more than one link for an echo...

    FWIW: your description is known as a fully connected polygon... you can see examples at the following link...

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_graph#Examples

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  • From Tristan B. Kildaire@1:19/25 to mark lewis on Wed Nov 16 23:00:54 2016
    Awesome. So there are no hubs today but the nodes themselves can sync with each other?

    That diagram was cool BTW.


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  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Tristan B. Kildaire on Fri Nov 18 17:16:54 2016

    16 Nov 16 23:00, you wrote to me:

    Awesome. So there are no hubs today but the nodes themselves can sync
    with each other?

    no, there are still distribution systems that use fully connected polygons... the NAB (aka North American Backbone) is one of those... the "fidoweb" is not... then there are some networks that prefer a hierarchy format with one central hub or a tree format where connections go up and down the tree...

    That diagram was cool BTW.

    you can easily see how many connections are needed for each increase in added systems... take a 5 hub distribution system... there's 4 connections per hub with 10 connections in total... at 12 hubs, there's 11 connections for each one
    which gives us 66 total connections... the main question is how redundant is redundant ;)

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  • From Robert Wolfe@1:116/18 to Tristan B. Kildaire on Fri Dec 2 07:10:50 2016
    I was thinking of setting up a BBS network but in a decentralized way by usi

    a mesh topology between the hubs where hub A exchanges with both hub B and C

    and C exchanges with B and A and B exchanges with C and A. If you see what I

    mean. Contrary to what is done with BBS hubs like FidoNet where there is a hierarchical topology where hub C speaks to hub B which in turn speaks to hu

    (main hub) -- If I am correct.

    AFAICT, you are wanting to re-invent FidoNet the way it is today :)

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