Hello andrew,

Is it possible to build timed in linux?

I download the artware directory from github but I can't find a makefile or configure script.

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Hello Alan!

26 Feb 18 03:43, Alan Ianson wrote to andrew clarke:

Is it possible to build timed in linux?

I download the artware directory from github but I can't find a
makefile or
configure script.

Don't know what you downloaded, the svn repo linked here contains a makefile: <https://www.ozzmosis.com/timed/>


Regards,
Gerrit

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Re: Timed in linux
By: Gerrit Kuehn to Alan Ianson on Mon Feb 26 2018 06:57 pm

Don't know what you downloaded, the svn repo linked here contains a makefile: <https://www.ozzmosis.com/timed/>

That is a good version too of all the artware stuff but I don't think it supports the Jam message base. It might with smapi (I think that's it) but I have not tried that version in some time.

The one I downloaded is a new version from github that supports Jam and also comes in with a windows nt version. I think that's a first and will work much better on modern OSs.

Ttyl :-),
Al


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On Mon 2018-02-26 03:43, Alan Ianson (1:153/757) wrote to andrew clarke:

Is it possible to build timed in linux?

I download the artware directory from github but I can't find a
makefile or configure script.

There is a Linux/BSD port on my SVN repository. It's based on work done by Oliver Grimm and only supports Squish and *.MSG, and unlike the GitHub branch it can't be used to build the DOS, OS/2 or Windows versions.

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub branch so there will be a single codebase.

At this stage the ARTWARE MSGAPI (with JAM & Hudson support) builds cleanly on both 32-bit & 64-bit Linux but hasn't really been tested.

cd api/unix
make

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Hello andrew!

01 Mar 18 07:50, andrew clarke wrote to Alan Ianson:

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub branch
so there will be a single codebase.

Great! Please let me know if there is anything worth testing on *BSD.


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 2018 Mar 02 19:57:24, you wrote to andrew clarke:

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub branch
so there will be a single codebase.

Great! Please let me know if there is anything worth testing on *BSD.

why does everyone keep leaving the "M" off of BSDM? -=B-)

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Hello mark!

02 Mar 18 21:32, mark lewis wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

Great! Please let me know if there is anything worth testing on *BSD.

why does everyone keep leaving the "M" off of BSDM? -=B-)

Maybe it is just your mind thinking there was something a-miss? ;)


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 2018 Mar 03 10:08:48, you wrote to me:

Great! Please let me know if there is anything worth testing on *BSD.

why does everyone keep leaving the "M" off of BSDM? -=B-)

Maybe it is just your mind thinking there was something a-miss? ;)

true... it is also possible that i'm aware of the masochistic nature of running
a *BSD(M) system and trying to compile or use other software that works great on *NIXes (eg: SBBS) ;)

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Hello mark!

03 Mar 18 10:25, mark lewis wrote to Gerrit Kuehn:

true... it is also possible that i'm aware of the masochistic nature
of running a *BSD(M) system and trying to compile or use other
software that works great on *NIXes (eg: SBBS) ;)

While I must admit that being able to compile your own set of software comes with great satisfaction somestimes (although I don't know anything about sbbs),
I do this less these days compared to one or two decades ago. Binary distribution has grown more popular even in the *BSD world. OTOH, setting up my
own build cluster is still on the to-do list...


Regards,
Gerrit

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Hello Andrew!

On 01.03.18 at 07:50, andrew clarke wrote to Alan Ianson:

On Mon 2018-02-26 03:43, Alan Ianson (1:153/757) wrote to andrew clarke:

Is it possible to build timed in linux?

I download the artware directory from github but I can't find a
makefile or configure script.

There is a Linux/BSD port on my SVN repository. It's based on work done
by Oliver Grimm and only supports Squish and *.MSG, and unlike the GitHub branch it can't be used to build the DOS, OS/2 or Windows versions.

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub branch so there will be a single codebase.

At this stage the ARTWARE MSGAPI (with JAM & Hudson support) builds cleanly on both 32-bit & 64-bit Linux but hasn't really been tested.

cd api/unix
make

Any further progress on this?
I'd love a Linux version :-)

Regards,
Martin

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06 Nov 18 09:28, you wrote to me:

Is it possible to build timed in linux?

I download the artware directory from github but I can't find a
makefile or configure script.

There is a Linux/BSD port on my SVN repository. It's based on work
done by Oliver Grimm and only supports Squish and *.MSG, and unlike
the GitHub branch it can't be used to build the DOS, OS/2 or
Windows versions.

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub
branch so there will be a single codebase.

At this stage the ARTWARE MSGAPI (with JAM & Hudson support) builds
cleanly on both 32-bit & 64-bit Linux but hasn't really been
tested.

cd api/unix
make

Any further progress on this?
I'd love a Linux version :-)

I've not had much time to look at it lately, sorry.

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On Tue 2018-11-06 09:28, Martin Foster (2:250/1.1) wrote to andrew clarke:

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub branch so
there will be a single codebase.

At this stage the ARTWARE MSGAPI (with JAM & Hudson support) builds
cleanly on both 32-bit & 64-bit Linux but hasn't really been tested.

cd api/unix
make

Any further progress on this?
I'd love a Linux version :-)

Progress!

I finally have the Linux & FreeBSD ports working from the same code as the DOS,
OS/2 & Windows versions.

Build with:

git clone https://github.com/zoomosis/artware
cd artware/api/unix
make
cd ../../timed/unix
make

Run with:

../timedunx

timedunx looks for timed.cfg in the current directory.

Or you can run it with:

../timedunx -c$HOME/.timed

Which will look for timed.cfg in the $HOME/.timed/ directory.

Beware that it's quite experimental at this stage, but I'm using it to type this message. :-)

Regards
Andrew

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On 2019 May 08 02:11:24, you wrote to Martin Foster:

I'm in the process of merging the SVN patches into the GitHub branch
so there will be a single codebase.

i found this git repo after i found the svn repo... after a quick bout with

In file included from ../1stchar.c:1:0:
/usr/include/stdio.h:27:10: fatal error: bits/libc-header-start.h: No such file
or directory
#include <bits/libc-header-start.h>
^~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
compilation terminated.

i installed libc6-dev-i386

sudo aptitude install libc6-dev-i386

and make worked for api/unix... so i tried to build netmgr for unix but there's
no unix sundirectory or makefile :(

i really want/need netmgr so i can manage some netmails that come through here that are misaddressed or otherwise need to be bounced... that's really all i'm after right now...


[aside]
when i compiled the code from svn, i was looking at the documentation for netmgr... it mentioned that a nodelist compiler was included that would create a GIGO nodelist index... when make finished, i didn't find anything like that... there was only a netmgr binary and i didn't see any source code that indicated that it would compile a nodelist index for netmgr to use...

the BBS i'm running now (synchronet) does not use FTN nodelists like my old FD/RA/FE setup did... no version 7, GIGO, or similar nodelist... i do have a nodelist for the BinkIT.js mailer to use so i need a way to build a nodelist index for netmgr to be able to look up nodes in the nodelist, too...

i'm only interested in handling netmail in *.msg format so i don't need JAM, SQUish, or Hudson support... sbbs doesn't support any of them anyway... [/aside]

i went to the above git repo because i wasn't sure if the svn build of netmgr would work properly since it was 64bit... not sure which way to go or what to do now...

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29 May 19 09:42, you wrote to me:

sudo aptitude install libc6-dev-i386

and make worked for api/unix... so i tried to build netmgr for unix
but there's no unix sundirectory or makefile :(

So far I've only done GvE's MSGAPI & timEd for the GitHub code.

I have no time to look at NetMgr, or WIMM.

i really want/need netmgr so i can manage some netmails that come
through here that are misaddressed or otherwise need to be bounced... that's really all i'm after right now...

The SVN version of NetMgr builds in Linux. It uses XMSGAPI for *.msg.

Though I've only run it a handful of times so it could be quite buggy.

[aside]
when i compiled the code from svn, i was looking at the documentation
for netmgr... it mentioned that a nodelist compiler was included that would create a GIGO nodelist index... when make finished, i didn't find anything like that... there was only a netmgr binary and i didn't see
any source code that indicated that it would compile a nodelist index
for netmgr to use...

I wasn't aware of that.

Evidently there is gigonode.zip in the original net100.zip archive from 1996. It includes source code for DOS & OS/2.

I'll import it into the SVN & Github repo when I get a chance.

i went to the above git repo because i wasn't sure if the svn build of netmgr would work properly since it was 64bit... not sure which way to
go or what to do now...

I can't help you much if it breaks, but you can try it.

The Husky Project has lxtrack which they describe as a NetMgr replacement. It may work well but I've never used it.

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30 May 19 05:24, I wrote to you:

The Husky Project has lxtrack which they describe as a NetMgr
replacement. It may work well but I've never used it.

Actually forget about Lxtrack. It doesn't build and the README in the Husky Github repo says it's no longer supported (since 2005).

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Hi! mark,

On 29 May 19 09:42, you wrote to andrew clarke:

i really want/need netmgr so i can manage some netmails that come
through here that are misaddressed or otherwise need to be bounced... that's really all i'm after right now...

I used to think so too, and waited for over a year for any fixes to test. The latest update came as a smack to my patience.

In its place, and for the last three days, RNtrack now runs here. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

... We'll have fun fun fun till the sysop takes the Echo away.
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On 2019 May 30 08:51:44, you wrote to me:

i really want/need netmgr so i can manage some netmails that come
through here that are misaddressed or otherwise need to be bounced...
that's really all i'm after right now...

I used to think so too, and waited for over a year for any fixes to
test. The latest update came as a smack to my patience.

i've been dragging my feet heavily because i haven't felt like switching sbbs to using a script instead of the direct calls it currently does... i've only currently got two netmails that need bouncing if i follow fidonet policy properly... i could just delete them and the tosser would stop whining about them... well, not whining but pointing out that they cannot be imported because
they are addressed to users that do not exist in my new setup... only have 17 compared to the 1000+ plus in the old setup...

In its place, and for the last three days, RNtrack now runs here. :)

i'll see if i can find the code so i can compile it... just in case i cannot, can you point me in the right direction?

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Hi! mark,

On 29 May 19 19:27, you wrote to me:

In its place, and for the last three days, RNtrack now runs here.
:)

(BTW, I'm in a similar situation. Fucking FMail doesn't do JAM netmails. Guess where all my historical netmails are. Hence, I need an inbound .msg manager.)

i'll see if i can find the code so i can compile it... just in case i cannot, can you point me in the right direction?

Sourceforge. I did try compiling two versions but it kept failing on g++ ... I
don't know if this older Xubuntu has it, and don't particularly care. On checking RNtrack's "files" on Sourceforge, I found a precompiled that works: v1.32. It's FREQable from here as rntrack-1_32-lnx.tar.bz2 if you can/want.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi Paul,

On 2019-05-30 12:31:50, you wrote to mark lewis:

... FMail doesn't do JAM netmails. Guess where all my historical
netmails are.

If you just want to access them, just configure the area in your Golded config.
That has got nothing to do with FMail! ;)

You can even move them to the .msg netmail area with Golded if you like... ;)


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi! Wilfred,

On 30 May 19 12:06, you wrote to me:

You can even move them to the .msg netmail area with Golded if you
like... ;)

I've been precisely doing that tedious task manually multiple times a day, for the last 11-12 months. Enough is enough, already. ;)

Thank you for taking the time for your reply, BTW.

Cheers,
Paul.

... I wasn't there; I didn't do it; you can't prove it.
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Hi Paul,

On 2019-05-30 20:09:44, you wrote to me:

You can even move them to the .msg netmail area with Golded if you
like... ;)

I've been precisely doing that tedious task manually multiple times a day, for the last 11-12 months. Enough is enough, already. ;)

You probably mean the other way around? (From .msg netmail to JAM)
And you get that many netmails? ;)

Thank you for taking the time for your reply, BTW.

As opposed to working on FMail? ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi! Wilfred,

On 30 May 19 12:59, you wrote to me:

You can even move them to the .msg netmail area with Golded if

I've been precisely doing that tedious task manually multiple

You probably mean the other way around? (From .msg netmail to JAM)
And you get that many netmails? ;)

Yes, I did mean that. There is one 'bot mail from Z3C daily, ACKing my region segment. I may get one or two others during the day. If they're not cleared, the CFRoute log clags up. But with RNtrack now keeping the primary area clean,
it's all hunky-dory.

Thank you for taking the time for your reply, BTW.

As opposed to working on FMail? ;)

Oh, no problem. I have a Mystic config half-ish done (old version), put on hold as both my UPS boxes decided to die over the last six months. (First replacement is due this weekend.) First phase of re-organisation starts next week; this node's binkD/FMail/etc configs are converted to a VirtualBox system,
on my other host system.

This is gonna be a busy winter for me. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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30 May 19 08:51, you wrote to mark lewis:

In its place, and for the last three days, RNtrack now runs here. :)

I'd heard of RNtrack years ago but forgot it existed. Thanks. :)

I did an SVN checkout and with some source code changes I got it to build and run in FreeBSD:

30.05.2019 23:11:21 --- RNtrack 1.36/FBSD started.
30.05.2019 23:11:21 Create new msg in /home/fidonet/msg/zmail/
30.05.2019 23:11:21 Create new msg in /home/fidonet/msg/zmail/
30.05.2019 23:11:21 Create new msg in /home/fidonet/msg/zmail/
30.05.2019 23:11:21 Create new msg in /home/fidonet/msg/zmail/
30.05.2019 23:11:21 --- RNtrack 1.36/FBSD stopped.

I have no real need for it at the moment but I suspect Mark Lewis will appreciate it - if he can get it to build on his system.

Judging from problems I encountered building it in FreeBSD it may also need patches to build it on a modern Linux distro.

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On 2019 May 30 12:31:50, you wrote to me:

i'll see if i can find the code so i can compile it... just in case i
cannot, can you point me in the right direction?

Sourceforge.

yeah, i cloned the repo from there...

I did try compiling two versions but it kept failing on g++ ...

gcc --version

$ gcc --version
gcc (Ubuntu 7.4.0-1ubuntu1~18.04) 7.4.0
Copyright (C) 2017 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.


mine fails when bison tries to compile the documentation... i wrote the maintainer and asked about it... i haven't checked my email today, though...

$ bison --version
bison (GNU Bison) 3.0.4
Written by Robert Corbett and Richard Stallman.

Copyright (C) 2015 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.


i've had to spend the morning with the remaining three baby Toulouse Goose babies from this year's hatching... they were naturally hatched... momma abandoned them when they got stuck in the blue kiddie pool for a few hours and couldn't get out due to the water level being lower than they can currently jump to get over the edge when exiting... i got them out but she and the others
didn't come to them so now i have another job on my hands... first thing was figuring out how to crack/grind raw corn and get them to start eating it... crushing the corn between two bricks is a tiring job... i found an old blender that works much better... another task is to find green plant material they will eat since i have to keep them in a cage and take them out to it... water is no problem, they take to that like geese...

I don't know if this older Xubuntu has it,

cat /etc/issue

$ cat /etc/issue
Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l

and don't particularly care. On checking RNtrack's "files" on
Sourceforge, I found a precompiled that works: v1.32. It's FREQable
from here as rntrack-1_32-lnx.tar.bz2 if you can/want.

i might try that... i don't know if it'll run on my ubuntu server 18.04 LTS installation, though...

)\/(ark

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Hi Paul,

On 2019-05-30 23:01:16, you wrote to me:

Oh, no problem. I have a Mystic config half-ish done (old version),
put on hold as both my UPS boxes decided to die over the last six
months. (First replacement is due this weekend.) First phase of re-organisation starts next week; this node's binkD/FMail/etc configs
are converted to a VirtualBox system, on my other host system.

This is gonna be a busy winter for me. :)

Keep us posted of the developments... ;)

Bye, Wilfred.

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Hello mark!

30 May 19 12:21, mark lewis wrote to Paul Quinn:

mine fails when bison tries to compile the documentation... i wrote
the maintainer and asked about it... i haven't checked my email
today, though...

I fail to find a ticket from you on sourceforge. Is your problem with bison or flex? Could you post the error you get here? Do you have an easy way to try a previous version of flex/bison?


Regards,
Gerrit

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On 2019 May 30 20:35:56, you wrote to me:

mine fails when bison tries to compile the documentation... i wrote
the maintainer and asked about it... i haven't checked my email
today, though...

I fail to find a ticket from you on sourceforge.

i haven't posted one... the information available on SF says to contact the current maintainer, Michael Dukelsky, which i have done... i didn't feel like joining another mailing list and i haven't looked to see if RU.RNTRACK is available at any of my feeds... i don't really care to join it/them for just one or two problems... i may later on, though, once i get into configuring it but it looks to configure very similar to netmgr... i'm not sure what one would
do with the perl scripting support but it might come in handy at some point... for now, bouncing these few netmails is all i'm after ;)

Is your problem with bison or flex?

bison... i don't have flex installed that i know of... i also don't know if bison calls flex or not...

Could you post the error you get here?

the error was about " ={" and " = {" and said the "=" was unexpected...

i took a chance and hacked all the above to just "{" (removed those equals signs) and bison completed... there were also four or five FILEBOX* lines that needed a ";" added before the ending "}"... the build now completes and i've sent a diff to Michael to use if needed/desired... said diff/patch file is 1494
lines long and i can make it available to you/others if needed...

Do you have an easy way to try a previous version of flex/bison?

not that i know of... the system is maintained by aptitude and i'm loath to go forcing things around... especially since it is my BBS production machine and one of the stars for the NAB...

)\/(ark

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Hi! andrew,

On 30 May 19 23:13, you wrote to me:

30.05.2019 23:11:21 --- RNtrack 1.36/FBSD stopped.

Kewl.

I have no real need for it at the moment but I suspect Mark Lewis will appreciate it - if he can get it to build on his system.

Yeah, I saw that in the binkD echo.

Judging from problems I encountered building it in FreeBSD it may also need patches to build it on a modern Linux distro.

Ah. This is the work of wizards that Z2C warns of. I too don't meddle in such
things.

Cheers,
Paul.

... Never take life seriously. Nobody gets out alive anyway!
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Hi! mark,

On 30 May 19 12:21, you wrote to me:

I did try compiling two versions but it kept failing on g++ ...

gcc --version

Uh, huh.

mine fails when bison tries to compile the documentation...

Ooh, I hate it when that happens.

i've had to spend the morning with the remaining three baby Toulouse
Goose babies from this year's hatching...

Oh, poor birdies. They are such angels.

I don't know if this older Xubuntu has it,

Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l

Ubuntu 14.04.6 LTS \n \l

FREQable from here as rntrack-1_32-lnx.tar.bz2 if you can/want.

i might try that... i don't know if it'll run on my ubuntu server
18.04 LTS installation, though...

No wuckin' forries.

Cheers,
Paul.

... ///\oo/\\\ There are no more bugs. ///\oo/\\\ ///\oo/\\\
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Hi! Wilfred,

On 30 May 19 18:53, you wrote to me:

This is gonna be a busy winter for me. :)

Keep us posted of the developments... ;)

I could send you the website URL for my locale, for up-to-the-half-hour weather
reoprts, if you would prefer. ;)

Cheers,
Paul.

... I used to be a cynic, but I don't believe in that crap any more.
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On 2019 May 31 09:31:30, you wrote to me:

I did try compiling two versions but it kept failing on g++ ...

gcc --version

Uh, huh.

i was asking you what your's is ;)

but seeing your etc/issue below, i know what it is unless you manually danced around and updated to a different version... i'm running 14.04.6 on this point workstation... it is using

gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) 4.8.4
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

mine fails when bison tries to compile the documentation...

Ooh, I hate it when that happens.

my bad... it wasn't the documentation... it was trying to create the cfg.cpp and .hpp files (i think)... i finally hacked at it enough to get it to compile properly... basically converting many " = {" and " ={" to "{" and adding four (IIRC) missing ";"...

i've had to spend the morning with the remaining three baby Toulouse
Goose babies from this year's hatching...

Oh, poor birdies. They are such angels.

one of them definitely is now... it was quite worn out and lethargic when i got
them out of the pool... it just sat down on the ground instead of trying to run
around like the other two... it flew from this realm some 6 hours or so later... it was the calmest of them and didn't seem to mind being held... it ate some fresh ground corn "flour" and drank some water but just stayed in one place... i hate losing any critters...

I don't know if this older Xubuntu has it,

Ubuntu 18.04.2 LTS \n \l

Ubuntu 14.04.6 LTS \n \l

yep, same as this workstation...

FREQable from here as rntrack-1_32-lnx.tar.bz2 if you can/want.

i might try that... i don't know if it'll run on my ubuntu server
18.04 LTS installation, though...

No wuckin' forries.

:snort: hahahahaha! i haven't found it yet, though... ahh! dummy me! i was looking at the latest 1.36 which only has a precompiled winwhatever flavor available... i'll have to look and see if i can figure out the changes between 1.32 and 1.36...

[time passes]

doesn't look like much changed... a few (3 if i counted correctly) bugs fixed and some script/makefile changes but that's all... hummm...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
... She could host a new cooking show: "Cooking with too much cheese".
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Hi! mark,

On 30 May 19 20:49, you wrote to me:

I did try compiling two versions but it kept failing on g++ ...

gcc --version

Uh, huh.

i was asking you what your's is ;)

I was freezing, under a very big blanket. It's hard to 'catch the wave' in these conditions... no grok, too cold.

gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) 4.8.4
Copyright (C) 2013 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There
is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A
PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

Looks familiar...

gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) 4.8.4 ...etc...etc.

The installer (errors) kept calling it g++ ...mmm, which it probably is but I don't wanna play with these things. I have a much damaged forehead from key dents.

my bad... it wasn't the documentation... it was trying to create the cfg.cpp and .hpp files (i think)... i finally hacked at it enough to
get it to compile properly... basically converting many " = {" and "
={" to "{" and adding four (IIRC) missing ";"...

Oh, stop it! ...the nightmares...

i hate losing any critters...

Same here. She was probably the youngest. They tend to be a little weaker.

figure out the changes between 1.32 and 1.36...
[time passes]
doesn't look like much changed... a few (3 if i counted correctly)
bugs fixed and some script/makefile changes but that's all... hummm...

I figured as much when I triggered the 1.32 download, without looking.

Cheers,
Paul.

... And then there was the day when my electric nose hair trimmer shorted out. --- GoldED+/LNX 1.1.5-b20130515
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On 2019 May 31 12:40:48, you wrote to me:

I did try compiling two versions but it kept failing on g++ ...

gcc --version

Uh, huh.

i was asking you what your's is ;)

I was freezing, under a very big blanket. It's hard to 'catch the
wave' in these conditions... no grok, too cold.

i know that feeling... and the opposite... it was 102F (38.9C) here yesterday...

gcc (Ubuntu 4.8.4-2ubuntu1~14.04.4) 4.8.4 ...etc...etc.

The installer (errors) kept calling it g++ ...mmm, which it probably
is but I don't wanna play with these things. I have a much damaged forehead from key dents.

ewww... i never had that problem...

my bad... it wasn't the documentation... it was trying to create the
cfg.cpp and .hpp files (i think)... i finally hacked at it enough to
get it to compile properly... basically converting many " = {" and "
={" to "{" and adding four (IIRC) missing ";"...

Oh, stop it! ...the nightmares...

search and replace worked a treat... i was just hoping that there were not any valid uses of that form... i might have gotten lucky... time to buy a lottery ticket??

i hate losing any critters...

Same here. She was probably the youngest. They tend to be a little weaker.

might have been...

figure out the changes between 1.32 and 1.36...
[time passes]
doesn't look like much changed... a few (3 if i counted correctly)
bugs fixed and some script/makefile changes but that's all... hummm...

I figured as much when I triggered the 1.32 download, without looking.

they are/were definite bugs... i'm curious to see what michael comes up with based on my report... it could be simply newer compiler requirements with stricter rules and newer standards being used...

eg: i ran into problems when flightgear implemented some new C++11 type code...
compiling FG on 14.04 was a trick but they fixed it up and we're still good to go even though 14.04 is now out of support... i've got to bite the bullet and cross my fingers and run the distupgrade thing... first i need to get another 1TB HD to clone to in case things go sideways... i'm more worried about messing
up my virtual machine hosting capability... especially after i've just gotten my 64bit VMs to run again with the recent 14.04 stuff... i was having to force boot to an older kernel for them to run properly...

)\/(ark

Always Mount a Scratch Monkey
Do you manage your own servers? If you are not running an IDS/IPS yer doin' it wrong...
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30 May 19 20:49, you wrote to Paul Quinn:

mine fails when bison tries to compile the documentation...

Ooh, I hate it when that happens.

my bad... it wasn't the documentation... it was trying to create the cfg.cpp and .hpp files (i think)... i finally hacked at it enough to get it to compile properly... basically converting many " = {" and " ={" to "{" and adding four (IIRC) missing ";"...

Another option was to comment out that part of the Makefile.

Since cfg.cpp already exists in the SVN tree, so there's probably no need to recreate it with bison.

Curiously the FreeBSD makefile doesn't actually run bison. That's probably an error on the author's part, though I don't have bison installed anyway. (It's not part of the FreeBSD base.)

Build instructions for RNTrack on Linux:

$ svn co https://svn.code.sf.net/p/ftrack-as/code/trunk ftrack-as-code
$ mv ftrack-as-code rntrack
$ cd rntrack/MakeFiles/linux
$ nano Makefile

[...]

$ svn diff
Index: Makefile ===================================================================
-+- Makefile (revision 174)
+++ Makefile (working copy)
@@ -84,8 +84,8 @@
%.o: $(SRCDIR)%.cpp
$(CC) $(CFLAGS) $(CDEFS) $(COPT) -c $<

-$(SRCDIR)cfg.cpp: $(SRCDIR)cfg.y
- bison -l -d $< -o $(SRCDIR)cfg.cpp
+#$(SRCDIR)cfg.cpp: $(SRCDIR)cfg.y
+# bison -l -d $< -o $(SRCDIR)cfg.cpp

smapi:
make -C $(SRCDIR)smapi -f makefile.lnx

$ make

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