• Operating Without An Anti-Virus Program....?

    From maxe@who.cares.com@1:396/4 to All on Mon Oct 29 23:16:42 2018
    From: maxe@who.cares.com

    I've had it with the pricing and constant intrusion of the newer
    AV products. They've become as bad as the old style firewalls that
    were always blocking something or asking questions about every
    keystroke. I'm thinking of not having any of them on my computer.
    I'm also thinking that if something goes south with my box because
    of some malware or other that Acronis True Image will save me by
    allowing me to load a previous healthy image of my C:

    My question is about what are my chances of acquiring a virus or
    some other malware that would lock up my box so that even my Acronis
    Rescue Disk could not load? Yes, I know such bad stuff is most
    probably out there, but what are my chances of getting stuck with
    such a vicious piece of malware? I operate rather safely. I
    haven't had a virus warning for quite a few years from the AV
    programs I've been using.
    --- NewsGate v1.0 gamma 2
    * Origin: News Gate @ Net396 -Huntsville, AL - USA (1:396/4)
  • From Shadow@1:396/4 to All on Tue Oct 30 11:30:53 2018
    From: Shadow <Sh@dow.br>

    On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:16:42 -0500, maxe@who.cares.com wrote:

    I've had it with the pricing and constant intrusion of the newer
    AV products. They've become as bad as the old style firewalls that
    were always blocking something or asking questions about every
    keystroke. I'm thinking of not having any of them on my computer.
    I'm also thinking that if something goes south with my box because
    of some malware or other that Acronis True Image will save me by
    allowing me to load a previous healthy image of my C:

    Yes, it would.

    My question is about what are my chances of acquiring a virus or
    some other malware that would lock up my box so that even my Acronis
    Rescue Disk could not load?

    Minimal, unless it's some government-sponsored designer
    malware built into the hardware. You will be booting a different OS
    (usually Linux) from an independent media, so a rootkit should not be
    a problem.

    Yes, I know such bad stuff is most
    probably out there, but what are my chances of getting stuck with
    such a vicious piece of malware? I operate rather safely. I
    haven't had a virus warning for quite a few years from the AV
    programs I've been using.

    Just scan your system every now and then with a USB or CD
    booted AV rescue disk. Download and burn it on a trusted PC. Pull the
    internet connection before you boot it.
    Practice safe hex. Don't allow javascript for every site, and
    remove Flash and Java from your browser. Don't click on email, Usenet
    etc attachments or unknown executable files without submitting their
    hashes to Virustotal or Jotti.
    Even then a waiting a few days is good, so you won't get a
    zero-day.
    []'s
    --
    Don't be evil - Google 2004
    We have a new policy - Google 2012
    --- NewsGate v1.0 gamma 2
    * Origin: News Gate @ Net396 -Huntsville, AL - USA (1:396/4)
  • From maxe@who.cares.com@1:396/4 to All on Tue Oct 30 12:56:47 2018
    From: maxe@who.cares.com

    On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 19:30:53 -0200, Shadow <Sh@dow.br> wrote:

    On Tue, 30 Oct 2018 10:16:42 -0500, maxe@who.cares.com wrote:

    I've had it with the pricing and constant intrusion of the newer
    AV products. They've become as bad as the old style firewalls that
    were always blocking something or asking questions about every
    keystroke. I'm thinking of not having any of them on my computer.
    I'm also thinking that if something goes south with my box because
    of some malware or other that Acronis True Image will save me by
    allowing me to load a previous healthy image of my C:

    Yes, it would.

    Just in case of a *worst case* scenario I not only keep a True Image
    image on the extra partition TI creates on the C:, I also save a
    copy to an external drive.


    My question is about what are my chances of acquiring a virus or
    some other malware that would lock up my box so that even my Acronis
    Rescue Disk could not load?

    Minimal, unless it's some government-sponsored designer
    malware built into the hardware. You will be booting a different OS
    (usually Linux) from an independent media, so a rootkit should not be
    a problem.

    I have not counted the number of times Acronis True Image has saved
    my machine. It's done it a lot of times. Usually, system crashes
    are a result of my tinkering around with some badly written
    software, or some program that starts a quarrel with something else
    on my machine.

    Yes, I know such bad stuff is most
    probably out there, but what are my chances of getting stuck with
    such a vicious piece of malware? I operate rather safely. I
    haven't had a virus warning for quite a few years from the AV
    programs I've been using.

    Just scan your system every now and then with a USB or CD
    booted AV rescue disk. Download and burn it on a trusted PC. Pull the >internet connection before you boot it.

    I never thought of doing that with an AV Rescue disk. I searched
    and found an interesting page which lists many of those AV Rescue
    disks.

    https://www.techsupportall.com/best-bootable-antivirus-rescue-severely-infected-computer/

    That's a good idea. Thanks!

    Practice safe hex. Don't allow javascript for every site, and
    remove Flash and Java from your browser. Don't click on email, Usenet
    etc attachments or unknown executable files without submitting their
    hashes to Virustotal or Jotti.

    Even then a waiting a few days is good, so you won't get a
    zero-day.
    []'s

    I stopped using Java some years back.

    I use Tor a lot for browsing, but it's a bit of a pain at times
    because many sites won't work properly with Tor.

    I am *very* leery of exe, cmd, bat, etc., etc. I have a list of
    those for my newsreader Agent to kill filter. As for the Web, I am
    going to use VirusTotal if I do download an executable since I won't
    have an AV onboard.

    I did something today that I didn't think I'd do again. I
    downloaded a firewall. It's called PrivateFirewall. I found some
    reviews about it and decided to give it a try. I figured without an
    AV, I do need some extra help keeping my comp clean.

    https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/privatefirewall.html

    I knew damn well I didn't want Comodo or any of the other popular
    freebies which send info outbound to their home, so I searched for
    something else. So far, PrivateFirewall is very unintrusive. I
    have it set to "Train" in regard to the programs on my machine that
    access Usenet and the Web. I also have blocked other programs which
    have no business trying to connect outbound.

    So far, the program is really simple to use - as long as I don't try
    to go beyond my understanding of all that packet, udp and tcp stuff.
    I figure no matter how stunted my use is of its capabilities, I'll
    still be safer with its default settings than not having the program
    at all - unless it becomes a pain in the arse. Then it'll be gone.

    Somehow I think I just might be able to survive without those
    ridiculously overpriced AV programs, plus the spy suites which send
    your online life happenings to their "cloud".

    By the way, I have kept my Windows XP firewall active along with PrivateFirewall. I checked with GRC's ShieldsUP site and passed the
    tests. I'll have to do some searching around to see if I should
    keep the Win XP firewall active or not.

    Thanks for helping.
    --- NewsGate v1.0 gamma 2
    * Origin: News Gate @ Net396 -Huntsville, AL - USA (1:396/4)