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    From Richard Webb@1:2320/100 to All on Sat Oct 6 15:02:02 2012
    Folks,

    Just one question:

    What has this to do with the 10th amendment to the U.S.
    constitution?

    Richard
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  • From Mark Lewis@1:2320/100 to Richard Webb on Sat Oct 6 15:52:02 2012
    constitution?

    i suspect that 261/220 has crosslinked their bases... no telling what zone that is but i'm going to assume Z1 and send a message to that sysop over there about it ;)

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  • From Mark Lewis@1:2320/100 to Richard Webb on Sat Oct 6 17:54:02 2012
    constitution?

    i suspect that 261/220 has crosslinked their bases... no telling
    what zone that is but i'm going to assume Z1 and send a message to
    that sysop over there about it ;)

    Was thinkign about doing that, but wasn't sure where the
    crosslink was.

    i gather that it is at the originating node...

    Hopefully that'll resolve this. That's about the only traffic I
    see here is crosslinked stuff from apparently dovenet.

    yes and those are mostly synchronet systems, IIRC... how the message base areas are configured to so easily allow for crosslinking is something else, though...

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  • From Richard Webb@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sat Oct 6 20:14:02 2012
    HI Mark,

    On Sat 2012-Oct-06 15:44, mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote to Richard Webb:

    What has this to do with the 10th amendment to the U.S.
    constitution?

    i suspect that 261/220 has crosslinked their bases... no telling
    what zone that is but i'm going to assume Z1 and send a message to
    that sysop over there about it ;)

    Was thinkign about doing that, but wasn't sure where the
    crosslink was. Hopefully that'll resolve this. That's
    about the only traffic I see here is crosslinked stuff from
    apparently dovenet.

    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sat Oct 6 20:47:02 2012
    yes and those are mostly synchronet systems, IIRC... how the message base areas are configured to so easily allow for crosslinking is something
    else, though...

    FYI, there's absolutely nothing in a default Synchronet configuration that would come anywhere close to having 10TH_AMD as any kind of data file, or echotag.

    It's obviously operator error.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Richard Webb on Sat Oct 6 20:48:02 2012
    True, and that's waht I'm not aware of, as I've never used
    it. But, it seems to happen a lot with them, and this echo
    seems to be the dumping ground.

    Like you said before, if the *only* messages in this echo are crossposted
    ones, maybe getting rid of the echo altogether would solve the issue as
    well. :)

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  • From Richard Webb@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sat Oct 6 22:05:02 2012
    HI Mark,

    On Sat 2012-Oct-06 17:46, mark lewis (1:3634/12) wrote to Richard Webb:

    Was thinkign about doing that, but wasn't sure where the
    crosslink was.

    i gather that it is at the originating node...

    Would think you're right, from path lines I was went from
    that system to a system in n266, then to 140/1, to Ross, to
    you, to me. That would tell me z1 as well.

    Hopefully that'll resolve this. That's about the only traffic I
    see here is crosslinked stuff from apparently dovenet.

    yes and those are mostly synchronet systems, IIRC... how the message
    base areas are configured to so easily allow for crosslinking is
    something else, though...

    True, and that's waht I'm not aware of, as I've never used
    it. But, it seems to happen a lot with them, and this echo
    seems to be the dumping ground.

    Regards,
    Richard
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  • From Scott Brown@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sat Oct 6 23:18:02 2012
    What has this to do with the 10th amendment to the U.S.
    constitution?

    Nothing at all.. :)

    i suspect that 261/220 has crosslinked their bases... no telling
    what zone that is but i'm going to assume Z1 and send a message to
    that sysop over there about it ;)

    No crosslinked echos here. Just a user posting in the incorrect area. I will try to explain it to him.. :)

    Hopefully that'll resolve this. That's about the only traffic I
    see here is crosslinked stuff from apparently dovenet.

    Dovenet.. ick.. no dovenet here.. (no offence to you sync/dovenet guys and gals)

    yes and those are mostly synchronet systems, IIRC... how the message base areas are configured to so easily allow for crosslinking is something else

    No sync board here either. I think a telnet bbs is insecure enough without all the extra stuff that synchronet adds for hackers to play with.

    Sorry for the original post. I haven't been paying much attention to the board this past summer. I will try to keep my users in line. :)

    Thanks,

    Scott....

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sun Oct 7 00:56:02 2012
    that's what i said, nick... but there have been a lot of similar
    crosslinks in recent history which is why i also mentioned the possible conflict situation...

    What, exactly, are you referring to as "recent history?" The past 10 years?
    Or the past year? The past year I think there's been like 2. So that's not
    that many. Even if they were both Synchronet systems, I'm letting you know
    as a Synchronet sysop that there's nothing remotely close to 10TH_AMD in Synchronet whatsoever. So basically, we're blaming it on new sysops that
    setup Fidonet, and post in the first Fidonet echo on the backbone.

    The fact that it might have been Synchronet systems recently, is because Synchronet is probably one of the most popular BBS packages for new or returning sysops these days, as much as noone wants to admit it.

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  • From Nicholas Boel@1:2320/100 to Mark Lewis on Sun Oct 7 01:15:02 2012
    getting rid of the echo on the cross-posting board, sure... but not in a whole network of folks who still carry it... go ahead and throw the eggs out with the basket, eh?

    Yup! I'd also like to see your 10-20 dead echos, besides robot posts, leave
    the backbone as well. At least you're here to maintain them, though, even though there's nothing to maintain. :(

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  • From Mark Lewis@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Oct 7 01:37:02 2012
    message base areas are configured to so easily allow for
    crosslinking is something else, though...

    FYI, there's absolutely nothing in a default Synchronet
    configuration that would come anywhere close to having 10TH_AMD as
    any kind of data file, or echotag.

    It's obviously operator error.

    that's what i said, nick... but there have been a lot of similar crosslinks in recent history which is why i also mentioned the possible conflict situation...

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  • From Mark Lewis@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Oct 7 01:59:02 2012
    it. But, it seems to happen a lot with them, and this echo
    seems to be the dumping ground.

    Like you said before, if the *only* messages in this echo are
    crossposted ones, maybe getting rid of the echo altogether would
    solve the issue as well. :)

    getting rid of the echo on the cross-posting board, sure... but not in a whole network of folks who still carry it... go ahead and throw the eggs out with the basket, eh?

    )\/(ark


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  • From Richard Webb@1:2320/100 to Nicholas Boel on Sun Oct 7 03:24:02 2012
    HI Nicholas,

    On Sat 2012-Oct-06 20:39, Nicholas Boel (1:154/10.1) wrote to mark lewis:

    yes and those are mostly synchronet systems, IIRC... how the message base areas are configured to so easily allow for crosslinking is something
    else, though...

    FYI, there's absolutely nothing in a default Synchronet
    configuration that would come anywhere close to having 10TH_AMD as
    any kind of data file, or echotag.

    It's obviously operator error.

    I'd be inclined to agree with that assessment. I've seen
    others in this echo from dovenet or whatever it is with
    different FIdonet addresses, but that's what makes me think
    somebody's got soemthing crosslinked, and maybe we finally
    hit upon it. IT's only an occasional thing, but it's been
    about the only consistent traffic in this echo since I
    linked up a few years ago. There's more off topic content
    than on topic here <grin>.

    However, I do have an interest in the stated topic, which is why I remain linked. Obviously whoever founded the echo
    wasn't interested enough though to maintain a listing in the echolist, or look after it. <oh well>

    You might be right, we'll see if communications from Mark
    and I to the suspected system clear it up. IF not,
    delinking might be the option. I'd suggest a further step
    of removing it from the backbone as well if it doesn't.

    Regards,
    Richard
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