Re: Good Pointers
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Mon Jan 19 2026 10:16 am

Except that messages are imported or sorted by "written date".

Of course I meant to write "messages are *not* imported or sorted by written date"

FWIW, sbbsecho seems to do a lot better job keeping messages in such an order where, when read in the order posted, a discussion can be followed vs. some other tossers/tosser-shims I have used in the past.

I'm not sure why that would be. Maybe other tossers don't unpack bundes in the day-of-week order? I seem to recall that much older versions of SBBSecho didn't .

I rarely notice ftn messages read in sequence seeming out of order here. Usenet groups are about the only place I might notice it, and I suspect
that is something that happens before sbbsecho gets hold of the messages.

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Re: Good Pointers
By: Digital Man to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 19 2026 01:45 pm

FWIW, sbbsecho seems to do a lot better job keeping messages in such an order where, when read in the order posted, a discussion can be followed vs. some other tossers/tosser-shims I have used in the past.

I'm not sure why that would be. Maybe other tossers don't unpack bundes in the day-of-week order? I seem to recall that much older versions of SBBSecho didn't .

Continuing ... (hit Ctrl-Z prematurely), looking now at SBBSecho, I see that it always start unpacking bundles from Sunday, then Monday, etc. It make more sense to start unpacking bundles starting with the *next* day of week to always unpack them in order. This matters most when there's multiple bundles from multiple days received all at once, which isn't a common occurrence, but possible.
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Re: Good Pointers
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sun Jan 18 2026 19:19:50

Except that messages are imported or sorted by "written date".

If that were the case, then I shouldn't be seeing msgs. from 2020. This seems to be a contradiction to...

Message pointers determine what message you'll see in a new-scan based
on their *import* date/time, not the date/time they were supposedly
written (which is the date/time shown in the message header to users).

In any case how they're imported is irrelevent from a users' perspective. It's how it can be manipulated once there that's important.

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Re: Good Pointers
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Tue Jan 20 2026 12:28 pm

In any case how they're imported is irrelevent from a users'
perspective. It's how it can be manipulated once there that's
important.

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Re: Good Pointers
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Tue Jan 20 2026 12:28 pm

Re: Good Pointers
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Sun Jan 18 2026 19:19:50

Except that messages are imported or sorted by "written date".

If that were the case, then I shouldn't be seeing msgs. from 2020. This seems to be a contradiction to...

Right, that was a typo: I left out the word "not". It's a bad habit.
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