• SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious

    From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to All on Mon Aug 23 15:02:00 2021
    While looking at the weather report for my area on weather.com, I saw an ad for this SignalTech wifi booster with some text saying internet providers don't want you buying one. I was curious if it was some kind of special device or not, so I decided to click on the link. This is from SignalTech's web site:

    https://signaltechbooster.com/info-21.php

    Basically what it says is that internet providers throttle your router to make your internet speed become slower over time so you'll upgrade your internet package. This already sounded suspicious to me, because I haven't had this happen to me (though I tend to buy my own router and use 3rd-party router firmware, such as DD-WRT or Tomato). I suppose it could theoretically happen with an ISP-provided router, but even then it seems sketchy and I haven't heard of this happening to other people.

    Next, it says that this SignalTech wifi booster "overrides what the internet provider does with your router and boosts your internet to every corner of your house". This sounds highly suspicious to me. If the internet provider is throttling your router speeds, I don't really see how a wifi device like this would be able to override what the ISP is doing to your router. Also, this is a wifi repeater; what about ethernet speed?

    And to top it off, that page has a section that says "How does this device work?" and it explains what bandwidth is, but it doesn't actually explain how this device supposedly overrides any bandwidth throttling from your internet provider.

    It all sounds bogus..

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Tue Aug 24 01:59:32 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:02 pm

    While looking at the weather report for my area on weather.com, I saw an ad for this SignalTech wifi booster with some text saying internet providers don't want you buying one. I was curious if it was some kind of special device or not, so I decided to click on the link. This is from SignalTech's

    so there are morons that click those links.

    https://signaltechbooster.com/info-21.php

    oh good now you're advertising for them.

    how this device supposedly overrides any bandwidth throttling from your internet provider.

    It all sounds bogus..

    boy, ya think?!

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Nightfox on Tue Aug 24 02:57:03 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:02 pm

    While looking at the weather report for my area on weather.com, I saw an ad this SignalTech wifi booster with some text saying internet providers don't want you buying one. I was curious if it was some kind of special device or not, so I decided to click on the link. This is from SignalTech's web site:

    https://signaltechbooster.com/info-21.php

    Basically what it says is that internet providers throttle your router to ma your internet speed become slower over time so you'll upgrade your internet package. This already sounded suspicious to me, because I haven't had this happen to me (though I tend to buy my own router and use 3rd-party router firmware, such as DD-WRT or Tomato). I suppose it could theoretically happe with an ISP-provided router, but even then it seems sketchy and I haven't he of this happening to other people.

    Next, it says that this SignalTech wifi booster "overrides what the internet provider does with your router and boosts your internet to every corner of y house". This sounds highly suspicious to me. If the internet provider is throttling your router speeds, I don't really see how a wifi device like thi would be able to override what the ISP is doing to your router. Also, this a wifi repeater; what about ethernet speed?

    And to top it off, that page has a section that says "How does this device work?" and it explains what bandwidth is, but it doesn't actually explain ho this device supposedly overrides any bandwidth throttling from your internet provider.

    It all sounds bogus..

    Nightfox


    It reminds me of those devices that use faraway infrared rays to clean your laundry, which they used to advertise in Mexican TV Shops.

    If the ISP wanted to throttle your Internet connection for any reason, they would do it on their end and not from the router you have in your premises. ISPs are fully aware power users deploy their own routers.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Arelor on Tue Aug 24 03:46:59 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Arelor to Nightfox on Tue Aug 24 2021 02:57 am


    If the ISP wanted to throttle your Internet connection for any reason, they would do it on their end and not from the router you have in your premises. ISPs are fully aware power users deploy their own routers.


    i dunno bout dat.
    i had a friend who was a cable installer and they got ahold of an illegally modified cable modem/router combo. it pretty much gave you the fastest speed possible.
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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Arelor on Tue Aug 24 09:27:00 2021
    Hello Arelor;

    Arelor wrote to Nightfox <=-

    If the ISP wanted to throttle your Internet connection for any reason, they would do it on their end and not from the router you have in your premises. ISPs are fully aware power users deploy their own routers.

    That's not always the case. Having worked at several ISPs you'd be surprised
    at how many rely on the CPE (Customer Premise Equipment... aka: router) to
    do some of the rate (speed) shaping for them. This is why some of the ISPs insist you purchase your router through them OR a similar router in which they've already had a backdoor manufactured for them to use to adjust your speed and other settings.

    While it may not always be the case, it is with some. It sounds to me like
    this one particular manufacturer is betting the farm per sale that every ISP does this.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Brian Rogers on Tue Aug 24 13:44:09 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster -
    By: Brian Rogers to Arelor on Tue Aug 24 2021 09:27 am

    If the ISP wanted to throttle your Internet connection for any
    reason, they would do it on their end and not from the router you
    have in your premises. ISPs are fully aware power users deploy their
    own routers.

    That's not always the case. Having worked at several ISPs you'd be surprised at how many rely on the CPE (Customer Premise Equipment... aka: router) to do some of the rate (speed) shaping for them. This is why some of the ISPs insist you purchase your router through them OR a similar router in which they've already had a backdoor manufactured for them to use to adjust your speed and other settings.

    I was with an ISP that gave you a router, and they said they could perform diagnostics with it. But we could also use our own router. That ISP has since been acquired by another company, and it seems they're okay with customers having their own router. I have my own router I bought and flashed DD-WRT firmware on it, and it's working fine.

    While it may not always be the case, it is with some. It sounds to me like this one particular manufacturer is betting the farm per sale that every ISP does this.

    Even if an ISP throttles speed via the customer's router, I don't see how a wifi repeater could override that and give you full internet speed.

    Nightfox

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  • From JonathanMcKey@VERT/THEMIDNI to Nightfox on Tue Aug 24 14:46:53 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:02 pm

    While looking at the weather report for my area on weather.com, I saw an ad this SignalTech wifi booster with some text saying internet providers don't want you buying one. I was curious if it was some kind of special device or not, so I decided to click on the link. This is from SignalTech's web site:

    https://signaltechbooster.com/info-21.php

    Basically what it says is that internet providers throttle your router to ma your internet speed become slower over time so you'll upgrade your internet package. This already sounded suspicious to me, because I haven't had this happen to me (though I tend to buy my own router and use 3rd-party router firmware, such as DD-WRT or Tomato). I suppose it could theoretically happe with an ISP-provided router, but even then it seems sketchy and I haven't he of this happening to other people.

    Next, it says that this SignalTech wifi booster "overrides what the internet provider does with your router and boosts your internet to every corner of y house". This sounds highly suspicious to me. If the internet provider is throttling your router speeds, I don't really see how a wifi device like thi would be able to override what the ISP is doing to your router. Also, this a wifi repeater; what about ethernet speed?

    And to top it off, that page has a section that says "How does this device work?" and it explains what bandwidth is, but it doesn't actually explain ho this device supposedly overrides any bandwidth throttling from your internet provider.

    It all sounds bogus..

    Nightfox

    While it is true that ISP's do throttle your internet speeed, no Wi-Fi booster will actually override it as it isn't the router that slows it down, it's the modem that slows it down, which you cannot change to your own as that is what the ISP uses to activate your internet and connect your devices to, including your router. There is simply no way to stop the throttling of your internet speed.
    So, it pretty much is bogus, all it does is extend the range of your Wi-Fi and that's it.

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  • From JonathanMcKey@VERT/THEMIDNI to All on Tue Aug 24 14:49:29 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:02 pm

    Hey, my first message using SyncTERM and it worked!

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Tue Aug 24 20:05:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    I was with an ISP that gave you a router, and they said they could
    perform diagnostics with it. But we could also use our own router.
    That ISP has since been acquired by another company, and it seems
    they're okay with customers having their own router. I have my own
    router I bought and flashed DD-WRT firmware on it, and it's working
    fine.

    Our ISP now, communistcast, supplies a router by insistance. They throttle bandwidth by the router. You may buy a linksys or motorola comcast modified router but it must maintain the backdoor for them to adjust it to your account settings/bandwidth. Also note that many of the stock menus are deleted by design specs of comcast. A tech friend of mine at Cisco confirmed this for me.

    Even if an ISP throttles speed via the customer's router, I don't see
    how a wifi repeater could override that and give you full internet
    speed.

    You're absolutely correct. Perhaps lan speeds may improve but not lan->wan. When it comes to bandwidth, you're only as fast as your weakest link.


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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Brian Rogers on Wed Aug 25 10:23:33 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster -
    By: Brian Rogers to Nightfox on Tue Aug 24 2021 08:05 pm

    Our ISP now, communistcast, supplies a router by insistance. They throttle bandwidth by the router. You may buy a linksys or motorola comcast modified router but it must maintain the backdoor for them to adjust it to your account settings/bandwidth. Also note that many of the stock menus are deleted by design specs of comcast. A tech friend of mine at Cisco confirmed this for me.

    Interesting.. I had Comcast internet years ago and I was able to use my own router with it.

    Nightfox

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Wed Aug 25 21:58:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

    Nightfox wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Interesting.. I had Comcast internet years ago and I was able to use
    my own router with it.

    I figured out a way to do it. I have to put the CPE into bridge mode and then feed the lan port to a wifi router which I run DD-WRT on. If I don't ssh and vpn clients will time out after 5 minutes of in activity just using the communistcast CPE. It shouldn't act like this but it's by NBC's design!

    Yes you -may- use your own router in conjunction with theirs but you -must-
    use their device to directly interface with their dmarc.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Wed Aug 25 07:21:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to Nightfox <=-

    Our ISP now, communistcast, supplies a router by insistance. They
    throttle bandwidth by the router. You may buy a linksys or motorola comcast modified router but it must maintain the backdoor for them to adjust it to your account settings/bandwidth.

    Around here, they're barely able to keep up with advertised speeds. They do keep selling their "intelligent" features of xFi, but there's no way in hell
    I want them in my network.

    I'd rather bridge and have my own router in place.

    I've been having stability problems with my internal network and the wifi drops, as well as being slower than I expected. I suspected the newer
    version of DD-WRT that I'd installed on my router.

    Linksys has a neat trick on their WRT routers - it has two separate system images, and if it fails to boot 3 times, it switches to the other image. No more bricked routers.

    I booted back onto the factory firmware and noticed the following:

    DD-WRT:
    Wired: 475 mbps
    Wifi: 17 mbps

    Factory:
    Wired: 200 mbps
    Wifi: 80 mbps

    I think I'll stick with the factory firmware for now, but am in the market
    for new routers. My Linksys was free with a referral program from them and
    my Netgear Nighthawk was $5 at Goodwill. It's about time for a change. :)




    Also note that many of
    the stock menus are deleted by design specs of comcast. A tech friend
    of mine at Cisco confirmed this for me.

    Even if an ISP throttles speed via the customer's router, I don't see
    how a wifi repeater could override that and give you full internet
    speed.

    You're absolutely correct. Perhaps lan speeds may improve but not
    lan->wan. When it comes to bandwidth, you're only as fast as your weakest
    ink.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Aug 26 20:26:00 2021
    Hello poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    Around here, they're barely able to keep up with advertised speeds.
    They do keep selling their "intelligent" features of xFi, but there's
    no way in hell I want them in my network.

    Me either. I've caught them making changes we specifically told them NOT to
    do, such as turn on the wifi port for their security system - which we do NOT use. This makes our CCast router quite insecure having it on w/o a password.
    I can't afford this.

    I've been having stability problems with my internal network and the
    wifi drops, as well as being slower than I expected. I suspected the
    newer version of DD-WRT that I'd installed on my router.

    Comparing Linksys to others however, I've found their wifi support to be
    very weak in general, no matter the firmware.

    Linksys has a neat trick on their WRT routers - it has two separate
    system images, and if it fails to boot 3 times, it switches to the
    other image. No more bricked routers.

    Sort of like Dorothy's slippers? tap 3 times to leave Oz for another land <G>

    I booted back onto the factory firmware and noticed the following:

    DD-WRT:
    Wired: 475 mbps
    Wifi: 17 mbps

    Factory:
    Wired: 200 mbps
    Wifi: 80 mbps

    I think I'll stick with the factory firmware for now, but am in the
    market for new routers. My Linksys was free with a referral program
    from them and my Netgear Nighthawk was $5 at Goodwill. It's about time for a change. :)

    You seem to lose a LOT no matter which you're using here. LAN wise, you
    should get the full bandwidth based on your type of 802.11. Even 80Mbps seems low depending on your type of wifi. Also your wired is cut by more than
    50%! I'm running CAT6 to a T-link extender and I'm getting exactly what
    I should be getting from it.
    Wired: 600Mbps
    Wifi: 65Mbps

    My wifi is faring a tad better than the 54Mpbs it should be getting. The wired side is spot on. We used Linksys for a good 20 years, different models, but
    got away from it with this upgrade and went for a NetGear 6400 when we changed last year. It's holding up pretty good all things considered. One thing I know it doesn't care for is my instance of xmpp. I have to take that offline if I reboot the router for some reason. Otherwise it's been doing its job nicely.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to JonathanMcKey on Sat Aug 28 17:07:00 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster -
    By: JonathanMcKey to All on Tue Aug 24 2021 02:49 pm

    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:02 pm

    Hey, my first message using SyncTERM and it worked!

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  • From plt@VERT/SBBSVA to Moondog on Sun Aug 29 01:23:00 2021
    Moondog wrote to JonathanMcKey <=-

    Re: SignalTech wifi booster -
    By: JonathanMcKey to All on Tue Aug 24 2021 02:49 pm

    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: Nightfox to All on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:02 pm

    Hey, my first message using SyncTERM and it worked!

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Fri Aug 27 07:03:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    My wifi is faring a tad better than the 54Mpbs it should be getting.
    The wired side is spot on. We used Linksys for a good 20 years,
    different models, but got away from it with this upgrade and went for a NetGear 6400 when we changed last year.

    A Netgear 6400 is my $5 Goodwill access point in my current setup. I may switch places with it this weekend and make it the gateway router to compare speeds with the Linksys.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Aug 30 19:19:00 2021
    Hey poindexter;

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    A Netgear 6400 is my $5 Goodwill access point in my current setup. I
    may switch places with it this weekend and make it the gateway router
    to compare speeds with the Linksys.

    If it's a version 2, you can load dd-wrt in it.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Brian Rogers on Tue Aug 31 08:04:00 2021
    Brian Rogers wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Brian Rogers <=-

    A Netgear 6400 is my $5 Goodwill access point in my current setup. I
    may switch places with it this weekend and make it the gateway router
    to compare speeds with the Linksys.

    If it's a version 2, you can load dd-wrt in it.

    It's already running DD-WRT. I'm a big fan.


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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to poindexter FORTRAN on Wed Sep 1 21:31:00 2021
    Hey poindexter;

    It's already running DD-WRT. I'm a big fan.

    Nice, as am I. It gives you menu items the default OS fails to give you.

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  • From marymitch@VERT to Nightfox on Wed Sep 8 00:10:07 2021
    Well, that's probably true. Several of my friends noticed the significant change in their speed during the last months without any reason. The weather was ok, they paid for everything too, so the problem was pretty mysterious for them. It seems that providers want us to pay more for their services. But do they have any right to slow down the internet manually? I don't think so. So maybe it's better to use VPN or proxies in this case? I've found at https://bestvpnprovider.co/vyprvpn-review/ a review about a good VPN that can be a solution to this problem. At least, I guess so.

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to marymitch on Wed Sep 8 08:46:09 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: marymitch to Nightfox on Wed Sep 08 2021 12:10 am

    Well, that's probably true. Several of my friends noticed the significant

    It would be good to quote what you're replying to. What's probably true?

    services. But do they have any right to slow down the internet manually? I don't think so. So maybe it's better to use VPN or proxies in this case? I've found at https://bestvpnprovider.co/vyprvpn-review/ a review about a good VPN that can be a solution to this problem. At least, I guess so.

    Using a VPN won't increase your internet speed. If your internet speed is being limited by your ISP or is limited by your router, something like a VPN isn't going to help.

    If anything, a VPN slows you down a bit, because with a VPN, your internet traffic gets routed through additional servers.

    Nightfox

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to marymitch on Thu Sep 9 08:50:32 2021
    Re: SignalTech wifi booster - Sounds suspicious
    By: marymitch to Nightfox on Wed Sep 08 2021 12:10 am

    Well, that's probably true. Several of my friends noticed the significant change in their speed during the last months without any reason. The weather was ok, they paid for everything too, so the problem was pretty mysterious for them. It seems that providers want us to pay more for their services. But do they have any right to slow down the internet manually? I don't think so. So maybe it's better to use VPN or proxies in this case? I've found at https://bestvpnprovider.co/vyprvpn-review/ a review about a good VPN that can be a solution to this problem. At least, I guess so.


    can you please quote
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  • From Greenlfc@VERT/BEERS20 to Nightfox on Thu Sep 9 06:31:00 2021
    On 08 Sep 2021, Nightfox said the following...
    Using a VPN won't increase your internet speed. If your internet speed
    is being limited by your ISP or is limited by your router, something
    like a VPN isn't going to help.

    If anything, a VPN slows you down a bit, because with a VPN, your
    internet traffic gets routed through additional servers.


    That's generally true, although the exception would be if your ISP is throttling certain types of traffic. By tunnelling over the VPN, your ISP can't see where your tunnelled traffic is going, and thus cannot shape it.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Nightfox on Thu Sep 9 10:32:00 2021
    Hey Nightfox;

    Nightfox wrote to marymitch <=-

    Using a VPN won't increase your internet speed. If your internet speed
    is being limited by your ISP or is limited by your router, something
    like a VPN isn't going to help.

    Your fastest speed is as fast as the slowest link in the chain. If your edge connection to your ISP is only 128Kb then that's going to be your fastest speed. You're not going to gain a thing by changing routers as you mentioned.

    If anything, a VPN slows you down a bit, because with a VPN, your
    internet traffic gets routed through additional servers.

    Also some (not all) VPNs have a slightly lower MTU (maximum transmission unit) which may slow users down as well. Good call.

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  • From Brian Rogers@VERT/CARNAGE to Greenlfc on Thu Sep 9 14:07:00 2021
    Hello Greenlfc;

    Greenlfc wrote to Nightfox <=-

    That's generally true, although the exception would be if your ISP is throttling certain types of traffic. By tunnelling over the VPN, your
    ISP can't see where your tunnelled traffic is going, and thus cannot
    shape it.

    If it was the policy of most ISPs to rate shape based off of types of traffic that'd be one thing but most do so across the spectrum at the MAC address level at the edge which would still bag any VPN or tunneled traffic. If this were true I'd be getting 10 Gig through one of my tunnels.

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