• Re: Breaking News

    From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Sat Aug 28 17:25:00 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: HusTler to Arelor on Mon Aug 23 2021 08:09 am

    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Mon Aug 23 2021 03:59 am

    This is why the number of laws is always increasing and never decreasin

    I suspect it is also an attempt at artificially inflating the economy. have too many people on unemployment you may create a lot of laws that generate the need for extra accounting in firms and families, so they n hire more accountants and lawyers.

    If too many people are unemployed more of them may want to use guns. ;-)

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sat Aug 28 17:36:00 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Mon Aug 23 2021 05:05 pm

    The other day I heard there were over 20,000 gun laws at the state level. Instead fo creating new laws, I would advise they look at the exsiting law that are not working towards making people safe rather than create new law that hurt legal gun owners.

    Yes, but apparently it is easier for legislature critters to pass new laws rather than determine whether or not some law they already passed actually works. :(

    The Second exists as part of our given right to
    defend ourselves, and that's where it hurts me to hear folks who only beli it was there because the founding fathers liked shooting squirrels or punching holes in targets.

    Just because someone points out hunting doesn't mean that is the only
    reason they believe in 2A. Jumping on them for mention hunting is just as short-sighted as those who think 2A is out-dated.


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    To be clear, I don't jump on the hunting crowd. The few I do debate with are those who do not believe there's any other reason why someone should own firearms. I remind them the last time the US considered strict legislation toward everything except a few simple hunting rifles and shotguns, they were following the success the Germans were having in the 1930's. When
    registration become confiscation, a single shot goose gun is just as menacing to the eyes of an oppressor.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to MOONDOG on Sun Aug 29 09:46:00 2021
    To be clear, I don't jump on the hunting crowd. The few I do debate with are those who do not believe there's any other reason why someone should own firearms. I remind them the last time the US considered strict legislation toward everything except a few simple hunting rifles and shotguns, they were following the success the Germans were having in the 1930's. When registration become confiscation, a single shot goose gun is just as menacing to the eyes of an oppressor.

    All of that is true. IIRC, the Brits cannot own much that isn't considered
    a hunting arm. When I hear someone who is not 2A going on about how we shouldn't have guns that carry X or more bullets, I think of the Brits and believe I would rather have what we have than that.

    Once upon a time I might have trusted our government to leave us alone if
    all we had were hunting rifles but that time has passed.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Dumas Walker on Sun Sep 5 16:16:00 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Dumas Walker to MOONDOG on Sun Aug 29 2021 09:46 am

    To be clear, I don't jump on the hunting crowd. The few I do debate with those who do not believe there's any other reason why someone should own firearms. I remind them the last time the US considered strict legislatio toward everything except a few simple hunting rifles and shotguns, they we following the success the Germans were having in the 1930's. When registration become confiscation, a single shot goose gun is just as menac to the eyes of an oppressor.

    All of that is true. IIRC, the Brits cannot own much that isn't considered a hunting arm. When I hear someone who is not 2A going on about how we shouldn't have guns that carry X or more bullets, I think of the Brits and believe I would rather have what we have than that.

    Once upon a time I might have trusted our government to leave us alone if all we had were hunting rifles but that time has passed.


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    In the grand scheme of things the difference between a hunting rifle and an assault rifle is the not in the firearm itself, but the intentions of the person aiming and pulling the trigger.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Moondog on Fri Sep 17 09:12:00 2021
    All of that is true. IIRC, the Brits cannot own much that isn't considered a hunting arm. When I hear someone who is not 2A going on about how we shouldn't have guns that carry X or more bullets, I think of the Brits and believe I would rather have what we have than that.

    In the grand scheme of things the difference between a hunting rifle
    and an assault rifle is the not in the firearm itself, but the
    intentions of the person aiming and pulling the trigger.

    Indeed. As you may have heard, lacking a gun, someone went on a stabbing rampage in NZ. They are now apparently looking into banning the sale of assault knives.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 17 18:03:11 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Dumas Walker to Moondog on Fri Sep 17 2021 09:12 am

    All of that is true. IIRC, the Brits cannot own much that isn't consider a hunting arm. When I hear someone who is not 2A going on about how we shouldn't have guns that carry X or more bullets, I think of the Brits an believe I would rather have what we have than that.

    In the grand scheme of things the difference between a hunting rifle and an assault rifle is the not in the firearm itself, but the intentions of the person aiming and pulling the trigger.

    Indeed. As you may have heard, lacking a gun, someone went on a stabbing rampage in NZ. They are now apparently looking into banning the sale of assault knives.



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    Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely different from stone stones.

    I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 09:55:00 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 17 2021 06:03 pm

    Re: Re: Breaking News

    Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely differe from stone stones.

    I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet.

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    I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior, however I feel eventually we can teach others that blaming knives, sticks or other items for the acts committed by the person using them is ridiculous. Some of the most effective martial arts based on unarmed fighting originated because knives and other items were banned.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Sat Sep 18 14:01:38 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 2021 09:55 am

    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Fri Sep 17 2021 06:03 pm

    Re: Re: Breaking News

    Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely differe from stone stone

    I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet

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    I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior, however I feel
    eventually we can teach others that blaming knives, sticks or other items for the acts committed
    the person using them is ridiculous. Some of the most effective martial arts based on unarmed
    fighting originated because knives and other items were banned.


    There is a film in which some authoritarian regime tries to elimitate violent behavior with drugs
    and mind control techniques. Most of the population dies and the rest turns into violent psycopaths
    who start killing everybody.

    My experience is that you never convince people. The way to push change in the eyes of the public
    is to bring people into minoritary hobbies (such as target shooting or knife collection) until
    there is enough people in it, with stakes in it, that it becomes resistent to political tampering.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sat Sep 18 09:26:00 2021
    Wait until they bring forth a ban against assault stones. Completely different
    from stone stones.

    I am sure criminals are scared because they have not started about banning assault sticks yet.

    Or assault minivans and SUVs.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sat Sep 18 21:30:00 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Sat Sep 18 2021 02:01 pm

    Re: Re: Breaking News


    There is a film in which some authoritarian regime tries to elimitate violen and mind control techniques. Most of the population dies and the rest turns who start killing everybody.

    My experience is that you never convince people. The way to push change in t is to bring people into minoritary hobbies (such as target shooting or knife there is enough people in it, with stakes in it, that it becomes resistent t

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    Any change in culture that is effective takes time and is done subtly. Just as many other nations have been whittling away at their citizen's rights to
    own firearms, they've been doing it in such a way that people who do legally own and use firearms are viewed as being deviants.

    The US has a gun culture, and instead of trying to hide it, safety and responsibility through safety courses and shooting sports are ways to reverse the stigma that guns only have one evil reason to exist.

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  • From Jazzy J@VERT/JAYSCAFE to Moondog on Sat Dec 11 10:02:00 2021

    I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent
    behavior,

    Personal responsibility.

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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to Jazzy J on Mon Dec 13 17:23:58 2021
    Re: Breaking News
    By: Jazzy J to Moondog on Sat Dec 11 2021 10:02:00

    I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior,

    Personal responsibility.

    Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

    SYS64738

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Sys64738 on Tue Dec 14 15:56:00 2021
    Re: Breaking News
    By: Sys64738 to Jazzy J on Mon Dec 13 2021 05:23 pm

    Re: Breaking News
    By: Jazzy J to Moondog on Sat Dec 11 2021 10:02:00

    I don't know what it would take to eliminate the roots of violent behavior,

    Personal responsibility.

    Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

    SYS64738

    Sounds good, but even most of us who follow the same book do not agree what each page says.

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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to Moondog on Wed Dec 15 08:03:50 2021
    Re: Breaking News
    By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Tue Dec 14 2021 15:56:00

    Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

    Sounds good, but even most of us who follow the same book do not agree what each page says.

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

    Besides that, any two people that totally agree on everything means that one of them is irrelevant. :)

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to SYS64738 on Mon Dec 20 18:15:00 2021
    SYS64738 wrote to MOONDOG <=-

    Re: Breaking News
    By: Moondog to Sys64738 on Tue Dec 14 2021 15:56:00

    Encouraging biblical morality would be a good place to start.

    Sounds good, but even most of us who follow the same book do not agree what each page says.

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of
    respect, kindness, and responsibility.

    Put God above all, and treat your neighbor as yourself. The rest is
    just details. :-)



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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to JIMMY ANDERSON on Wed Dec 22 09:22:20 2021
    Re: Re: Breaking News
    By: JIMMY ANDERSON to SYS64738 on Mon Dec 20 2021 18:15:00

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

    Put God above all, and treat your neighbor as yourself. The rest is
    just details. :-)

    Sounds like a good start.
    SYS64738

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  • From K7elh@VERT/EOTSQWK to Sys64738 on Thu Dec 23 19:37:26 2021
    Re: Breaking News
    By: Sys64738 to Moondog on Wed Dec 15 2021 08:03:00

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

    But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale to back them up.

    Eric

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to K7elh on Fri Dec 24 05:33:57 2021
    Re: Breaking News
    By: K7elh to Sys64738 on Thu Dec 23 2021 07:37 pm

    Re: Breaking News
    By: Sys64738 to Moondog on Wed Dec 15 2021 08:03:00

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect kindness, and responsibility.

    But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale to back t up.

    Eric


    While I agree, that comment feels like a cheap shot at moderate Abrahamic religions, heh.

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  • From JIMMY ANDERSON@VERT/OTHETA to K7ELH on Fri Dec 24 21:42:00 2021
    K7ELH wrote to SYS64738 <=-

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

    But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness
    and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale
    to back them up.

    Don't have to be inspired by religion at all! You'd think being kind
    and respectful to your fellow man would come natural, but the Truth
    is that the NATURAL thing to do is Sin...




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  • From Sys64738@VERT/TXNET1 to K7elh on Sat Dec 25 09:49:43 2021
    Re: Breaking News
    By: K7elh to Sys64738 on Thu Dec 23 2021 19:37:26

    Complete agreement is not necessary. There is a general theme of respect, kindness, and responsibility.

    But why do those have to be inspired by religion? Respect, Kindness and responsibility are all admirable traits. I don't need a fairy tale to back them up.

    Calling the Bible a "fairy tale" is an awfully large assumption.
    SYS64738

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