• Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered

    From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Mon Nov 3 20:42:10 2025
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    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to Dumas Walker on Sat Nov 01 2025 18:56:48

    He would force his own 10 year old daughter to have her rapists baby

    He is against abortion under any circumstance, as am I. You say
    'her rapist's baby' but you could also say that the baby is an
    innocent person. Is killing an innocent person okay? No. Does
    it matter who the father of the innocent person is? No.

    Criminality can run in families, and may sometimes be genetic, so I would argue that it does matter who the father is.

    So any criminal or rapist should have their offsprint killed
    off? To prevent them from committing same crimes?

    No, but it does very much mean that it *does* matter who the father is.

    So it matters who the father is as to whether or not that baby deserves
    to live? That's the crux of the matter.

    You say no, that any criminal or rapist should NOT have their offspring
    killed, but then you say it DOES matter who the father is. What exactly
    do you mean by that?



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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Mon Nov 3 20:42:10 2025
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    I had forgotten how hard core OT God was, especially from Exodus through Deuroronomy. For example, if he told you and I to do something, and you did it but I didn't (or didn't do it *exactly* as I was told), he wouldn't just punish me. He'd burn, plague, or have the Earth swallow *both* of us up, even if you followed his direction exactly!

    Or he'd punish us both until you stoned me to death. Then he'd stop punishing you.

    That is pretty messed up!

    "Messed up" - by what standard?

    So you have no issue with the idea that OT God could tell us both to do something and then would kill us *both* after you did what you were
    told but I sat on my hands and did nothing?

    I don't have that much faith in my fellow man so, with that in mind, I would see that as messed up. I would find it difficult to be motivated
    to do anything if I knew I was going to die anyway.

    You still didn't answer my question. What standard are you basing that
    on?

    And the OT God is the same God of the NT. He is also the uncreated Creator
    God. Since He created the universe and everything in it, then NO I don't
    have an issue with how He chooses to run HIS creation. If that was the
    way He decided, for whatever reason, then I respect that. If you were
    to create something, I would respect your wishes as well.




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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Nov 4 00:27:19 2025
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Mon Nov 03 2025 05:58 pm

    Create chaos, allowing billionaire sponsors to consolidate power,
    create even bigger monopolies, buy distressed assets for pennies
    on the dollar and manipulate the markets to allow allies to benefit
    from insider trading.


    those democrats always did that. you know the ones you voted for.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to jimmylogan on Tue Nov 4 00:31:07 2025
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to MRO on Mon Nov 03 2025 08:42 pm


    then he got real pissed off and caused the flood that killed almost everything. and then he realized he went too far and said he
    wouldn't do it ever again.

    He didn't say He went too far, just that He wouldn't do it again.
    :-)


    i remember reading an interpretation where it said he regretted it and wouldn't do it again. if there is a god and all this is true then he
    probably did have regret since he promised to never do it again.
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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Tue Nov 4 16:16:39 2025
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    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to MRO on Mon Nov 03 2025 08:42 pm


    then he got real pissed off and caused the flood that killed almost everything. and then he realized he went too far and said he
    wouldn't do it ever again.

    He didn't say He went too far, just that He wouldn't do it again.
    :-)


    i remember reading an interpretation where it said he regretted it and wouldn't do it again. if there is a god and all this is true then he probably did have regret since he promised to never do it again.

    He regretted making man -

    Gen 6:6 The LORD was very sad that he had made man on the earth.
    His heart was filled with pain.
    Gen 6:7 So the LORD said, "I created man on the earth. But I
    will wipe them out. I will destroy people and animals alike.
    I will also destroy the creatures that move along the ground
    and the birds of the air. I am very sad that I have made man."

    Gen 8:21 Their smell was pleasant to the LORD. He said to
    himself, "I will never put a curse on the ground again
    because of man. I will not do it even though his heart is
    always directed toward what is evil. His thoughts are evil
    from the time he is young. I will never destroy all living
    things again, as I have just done.



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Tue Nov 4 17:11:07 2025
    Crash the economy
    Lead us into unnecessary war
    Cause social unrest to the point of unnecessary loss of life
    Lead to runaway inflation

    Create chaos, allowing billionaire sponsors to consolidate power, create even bigger monopolies, buy distressed assets for pennies on the dollar and manipulate the markets to allow allies to benefit from insider trading.

    Yes, things like that. You get it! ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Tue Nov 4 17:11:07 2025
    Okay - I don't think I'm communicating my thoughts good enough. :-)

    My point is if someone shared my religious beliefs/convictions
    100% then we would, by default, agree on policy me thinks...

    I would think it very easy that someone who matched my, or your, religious beliefs 100% might also be, for example, advocating policies that would:

    Crash the economy
    Lead us into unnecessary war
    Cause social unrest to the point of unnecessary loss of life
    Lead to runaway inflation
    etc.

    First, my beliefs are for the protection of life and personal
    freedom. I don't see how those would lead us into unnecessary
    war, not social unrest. However, society is constantly getting
    worse and worse, so advocating for morals could be seen as
    social unrest. But at the same time I don't advocate for safety
    at the expense of lowering moral standards.

    I didn't say that your beliefs would. I am saying that someone who shares
    your *religous beliefs* 100% might make a great *church* leader but still
    be a very horrible choice as the leader of a *country*.

    Which brings me back to my original point, people who vote *only* with their religious beliefs can cause a country a lot of problems if/when they get
    what they want.

    From what it sounds like, you are not one of those people, BTW.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Tue Nov 4 17:11:07 2025
    I don't have that much faith in my fellow man so, with that in mind, I would see that as messed up. I would find it difficult to be motivated to do anything if I knew I was going to die anyway.

    You still didn't answer my question. What standard are you basing that
    on?

    Moving to Religion sub.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to jimmylogan on Wed Nov 5 00:54:00 2025
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to MRO on Tue Nov 04 2025 04:16 pm


    He regretted making man -

    Gen 6:6 The LORD was very sad that he had made man on the earth. His


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Wed Nov 5 10:55:31 2025
    Gen 8:21 Their smell was pleasant to the LORD. He said to
    himself, "I will never put a curse on the ground again
    because of man. I will not do it even though his heart is
    always directed toward what is evil. His thoughts are evil
    from the time he is young. I will never destroy all living
    things again, as I have just done.

    In Genisis 9:12-17, God amends this promise to never destroying all living things *by flood* again. This is also the section where the rainbow is first used as a sign of this covenant.


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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wed Nov 5 20:06:02 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

    I didn't say that your beliefs would. I am saying that someone who
    shares your *religous beliefs* 100% might make a great *church* leader
    but still be a very horrible choice as the leader of a *country*.

    Which brings me back to my original point, people who vote *only* with their religious beliefs can cause a country a lot of problems if/when
    they get what they want.

    Ah - gotcha. Now I understand your position.

    From what it sounds like, you are not one of those people, BTW.

    LOL - I would hope not. :-)



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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Wed Nov 5 20:06:02 2025
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    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to MRO on Tue Nov 04 2025 04:16 pm


    He regretted making man -

    Gen 6:6 The LORD was very sad that he had made man on the earth. His


    just for further notice, if i see scripture i mash the space bar

    Your choice. You brought it up, so I quoted. :-)




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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Dumas Walker on Wed Nov 5 20:06:02 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

    Gen 8:21 Their smell was pleasant to the LORD. He said to
    himself, "I will never put a curse on the ground again
    because of man. I will not do it even though his heart is
    always directed toward what is evil. His thoughts are evil
    from the time he is young. I will never destroy all living
    things again, as I have just done.

    In Genisis 9:12-17, God amends this promise to never destroying all
    living things *by flood* again. This is also the section where the rainbow is first used as a sign of this covenant.


    Exactly! But he didn't say he regretted it. That's the point
    I was making. :-)


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Thu Nov 6 07:16:44 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

    In Genisis 9:12-17, God amends this promise to never destroying all
    living things *by flood* again. This is also the section where the rainbow is first used as a sign of this covenant.

    "all" things by "flood", sounds like His attorney wrote in some
    loopholes... :)



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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to JIMMYLOGAN on Thu Nov 6 09:51:48 2025
    In Genisis 9:12-17, God amends this promise to never destroying all living things *by flood* again. This is also the section where the rainbow is first used as a sign of this covenant.

    Exactly! But he didn't say he regretted it. That's the point
    I was making. :-)

    Understood. Moving to the Religion echo to continue. ;)


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Nov 7 11:31:18 2025
    Dumas Walker wrote to JIMMYLOGAN <=-

    In Genisis 9:12-17, God amends this promise to never destroying all living things *by flood* again. This is also the section where the rainbow is first used as a sign of this covenant.

    "all" things by "flood", sounds like His attorney wrote in some
    loopholes... :)

    Genesis, and the four books that followed, are considered "The Books of
    Law," after all. :D


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to jimmylogan on Mon Nov 10 06:31:33 2025
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 31 2025 07:24 pm

    Okay - let me be a little more direct. If someone 'supposedly' shares
    your belief but you think they would ruin things, do they really
    share your beliefs?

    In other words, if someone shares your beliefs about transgender,
    that there is only two genders, would you support them? Because
    if you believe that's not positive for the country as a whole,
    then do you really have that belief to begin with?


    That is an easy answer. The fact I agree with somebody does not mean he is apt for a position. I might support his ideas but think he is not a good candidate because he is incompetent.


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  • From jimmylogan@VERT/DIGDIST to Arelor on Wed Nov 19 07:45:42 2025
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    That is an easy answer. The fact I agree with somebody does not mean he
    is apt for a position. I might support his ideas but think he is not a good candidate because he is incompetent.

    Okay - so if two candidates are both competent and capable, would you
    vote for the one that shares your beliefs or not?



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANTIR to jimmylogan on Wed Nov 19 20:43:05 2025
    Re: Re: Charlie Kirk Murdered
    By: jimmylogan to Arelor on Wed Nov 19 2025 07:45 am

    Okay - so if two candidates are both competent and capable, would you
    vote for the one that shares your beliefs or not?


    Yeah, if there was such a thing as a competent and capable candidate who shared my ideas, I would endorse him before others.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Thu Nov 20 13:54:46 2025
    Okay - so if two candidates are both competent and capable, would you
    vote for the one that shares your beliefs or not?

    Yeah, if there was such a thing as a competent and capable candidate who share
    my ideas, I would endorse him before others.


    In the US, we've got real good at nominating persons who are questionable
    in both categories for at least the last 3 Presidential elections. There
    are many Americans who think it is OK to nominate/elect a real turd so long
    as it pisses the "other side" off, or so long as that turd "checks a box."

    For at least a few, pissing the other side off is the only qualification necessary. For more than that, checking a box is the only, or most
    important, qualification.


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